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[Todd Lee]

SideSt3p, on 22 June 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

I invested because this isn't a risky investment for me. Why? Because frankly this is money I have budgeted into my monthly expenses which I can spend on video games however I want.

I also think that a product can only be great if given a chance. All products require some initial risk.

I don't personally care if people do or don't buy the Founders Packages. It's a way you can contribute to PGI if you so wish and those that are skeptical don't have to. Honestly, the less people who buy, the more unique my 'Mech will be

From what I have seen and experienced with this game, I am a believer that given a little bit of time after launch we'll have a FANTASTIC F2P game which can compete with LoL and WoT in terms of player base. And probably surpass both in terms of longevity and depth of detail oriented play. It's gonna be great, and if you don't believe me, I'll be around to tell you, "I told you so."

You can't play a Multiplayer game by yourself. Well, you could sort of, but there wouldn't be anything really to do

[mrcarlton]

Solid post.

Darn it! I'm going to represent a franchise i love, even as it go screaming into the floor an utter flaming wreck! Because that is what fans do, see past the faults, and stand side by side with **** and pretend they don't smell it.

And i want me some Timberwolves and Bushwackers so i need the game to survive at least long enough for them to be invented (or clans to invade).

[Name48928]

CowboyHatValor, on 22 June 2012 - 11:07 AM, said:

I provided a distinction for the Founder status, and why "Founder," by definition, should come with risk.

And I agree with you! But risk should be balanced to the reward. For you, the reward is worth the risk. For others, not so much. It's all good!

When I was reading the thread, I saw the terms "risk", "reward", and "investment" and my inner accountant took over. I'm basically just putting the purchase of a Founders Pack in terms of financial investing.

[Owl]

I've waited a decade to be a MechWarrior™ again. $120 is cheap compared to the amount of $$$ I've spent on games in the intervening years. I don't see this so much as an investment as much as the fulfillment of a long standing dream.

Frankly, I'd spend almost any amount of money from any, or ALL, of your bank accounts to play this game
^{(Note: The previous sentence is sardonic/sarcastic in nature. I am not a bank hacker)}

Very much looking forward to fighting/serving with you all very soon!

6 Out

Edited by Owl, 22 June 2012 - 11:21 AM.

[William Knight]

MinionJoe, on 22 June 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

As a non-Founder, I can also purchase $80.00 of in-game currency. That's a purchase, not a return on an investment risk.

Sure, you're "getting back" more than you're "putting in", but exactly what is $80 if in-game currency worth? Eighty dollars of RL cash will keep gas in my car for a month. What will it buy in MWO?

IMO, the value of $80 of in-game cash is unknown at best and completely arbitrary at worst.

I’m going to say that they are likely to sell $80 of in game money for about $80,
i got my $80 and sweet mech plus two months of vip gaming for $60, oh and early access.

[CowboyHatValor]

MinionJoe, on 22 June 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:

And I agree with you! But risk should be balanced to the reward. For you, the reward is worth the risk. For others, not so much. It's all good!

When I was reading the thread, I saw the terms "risk", "reward", and "investment" and my inner accountant took over. I'm basically just putting the purchase of a Founders Pack in terms of financial investing.

Understandable, agree to disagree!

Though were both on these forums to begin with, so the 'disagree' part is likely minimal.

[Dranon]

Loved battletech since i came out in table top form. and the videos look real good.

[CCC Dober]

Todd Lee, on 22 June 2012 - 11:03 AM, said:

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Lastly, as someone who only likes 4-5 CLAN Heavy Mechs, what would this package do for someone like myself? Absolutely nothing.

Tell me about it. I was shocked to note an utter lack of information regarding my precious. I soon realized that it was not necessary to have them in order to get the game started. Also the year is 3049 and progresses in real time and then Russ said they gonna delay community warfare for 90 days and then go straight for the Clan Invasion. At best I can hope for Clan Mechs next year. Seeing how they are handling business however, I have come to the conclusion that they are very capable and it's really just a matter of time and having enough backup from the fanbase. They are not gonna screw us out of our precious Clans, no way. It's the only reason why they chose 3049. Clans have been part of the equation ever since. So yeah, it's just putting the puzzle together and make a call. There is no hard information on Clans because development has more pressing concerns. I'm cool with that. Doesn't stop me from doing my part =)

Edited by CCC Dober, 22 June 2012 - 11:32 AM.

[CowboyHatValor]

Dranon, on 22 June 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

Loved battletech since i came out in table top form. and the videos look real good.

I agree. The gameplay videos they have posted look amazing. I'm glad they have one for each weight class, though I'd love to have a few more!

[Cerlin]

I threw in a like because the OP is totally correct. The founders program is us supporting the devs before we know what the final product is and it is them rewarding us for that trust. It is a risk and I am willing to take it. If you dont want to take the risk, please stop complaining about not getting a test run. That is the whole point.

[Gordielightfoot]

Owl, on 22 June 2012 - 11:20 AM, said:

I've waited a decade to be a MechWarrior™ again. $120 is cheap compared to the amount of $$$ I've spent on games in the intervening years. I don't see this so much as an investment as much as the fulfillment of a long standing dream.

Frankly, I'd spend almost any amount of money from any, or ALL, of your bank accounts to play this game
^{(Note: The previous sentence is sardonic/sarcastic in nature. I am not a bank hacker)}

Very much looking forward to fighting/serving with you all very soon!

6 Out

I perfeclty agree with Owl.... I joined WoT because it was tanks on an era i liked, and was sadly disappointed so i play only very occasionally now.... Im looking right now to come up with my own "investment" to put into a game whos Lore and History I love with the very core of my being.... Ive always been a mecha fanatic and this would just be the realization of a life long dream.... I see many many purchases in my (not-so-near) future

[Zalikar]

I know it's been said before in other threads, but it doesn't seem to be gettin through to everyone...Buying one of the Founder's Packages is really the same as purchasing any other game, or purchasing the Collector's Edition of it. The big difference is that with this you get stuff you can use in game rather than a mass produced statue to sit in your closet and collect dust. Really, every time you buy ANY game, you are taking a risk that you are not going to get something you will enjoy. Heck, even if the game has a demo, you're still risking that the actual game turns out to be nothing like the demo.

But really, if you don't feel comfortable with essentially pre-purchasing the game, don't do it; and don't take an elitist attitude toward those who are willing to take that step. It's as simple as that.

[CowboyHatValor]

Zalikar, on 22 June 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

I know it's been said before in other threads, but it doesn't seem to be gettin through to everyone...Buying one of the Founder's Packages is really the same as purchasing any other game, or purchasing the Collector's Edition of it. The big difference is that with this you get stuff you can use in game rather than a mass produced statue to sit in your closet and collect dust. Really, every time you buy ANY game, you are taking a risk that you are not going to get something you will enjoy. Heck, even if the game has a demo, you're still risking that the actual game turns out to be nothing like the demo.

But really, if you don't feel comfortable with essentially pre-purchasing the game, don't do it; and don't take an elitist attitude toward those who are willing to take that step. It's as simple as that.

Did you read? No elitism!

[Name48928]

Owl, on 22 June 2012 - 11:20 AM, said:

I've waited a decade to be a MechWarrior™ again.

"Sunk cost" (ie the past 10 years) should never be a consideration when making an investment. It's called "throwing good money after bad". (OK, I'm really starting to stretch the financial terminology here... LOL!)

William Knight, on 22 June 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

I’m going to say that they are likely to sell $80 of in game money for about $80,
i got my $80 and sweet mech plus two months of vip gaming for $60, oh and early access.

So once the game launches you'll be able to "cash out" that $80 and get it back? Unlikely.

What you've done is paid $60 for an undetermined amount of in-game merchandise. That merchandise will, at some point in the future, be assigned by PGI to have a "value" of $80. You're NOT paying $60 to get $80 back. You're paying $60 for something that has not been defined yet.

[Victor MacGregor]

Maybe by committing a small risk, a good game may become a great one.

Edited by Victor MacGregor, 22 June 2012 - 12:58 PM.

[Tsunamisan]

Any Avid fan of Battletech or mechwarrior as long as i have bean would be glad to pay to support the game

[Voss Korgan]

I waste money on all kids of crap, this one was easy.

[CCC Dober]

@Joe
How many projects can you name, which have been ground breaking AND willingly backed up by truly big sponsors from start to finish?

None come to my mind tbh and I think MW:O more than qualifies as ground breaking. So I'm not really surprised to see a lot of arguments from a financial point of view that work hard against this game as a whole. It appears to be a self-replicating pattern throughout history based on risk aversion and fear of the unknown.

[cleaningotis]

good point

[xMEPHISTOx]

Well its a calculated risk and one I as many are more than willing to take. Many of who have been interested in the Battletech games for many many years may find the risk to be less than those who have no idea of what their getting into. But if you think this game is not going to be great and do not purchase so be it but you will no doubt have regrets at a later date.
IMO the game itself is not the risk. The risk for me is am I going to like how their setting up the house structure. The idea of the great houses not being run by players is disturbing and will cause many to go merc in the beginning so they can have their own command structure and only take contracts from the house they support.