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#121 Indomitus

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Posted 13 September 2014 - 08:20 PM

Considering they WANT to release the invasion mechs, I'm betting it's easier to include the Hellbringer and exclude the canon A-pods.

I don't think anyone is going to break down in tears while screaming "Noooo! They left out the A-pods!!!!"

#122 Jin Ma

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 05:47 AM

The bonus is going to be the mad dog, because they konw that is the one people want most. So making it bonus will require ppl to buy both wave 1 and wave 2 mechs.

#123 Mordin Ashe

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 06:14 AM

Perhaps, but on the other hand Mad Dog may be too iconic to just skip it and give it only to limited fraction of your potential buyers. Wouldn't be mad if that was the premium mech though.

#124 Odanan

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 06:30 AM

View PostMordin Ashe, on 14 September 2014 - 06:14 AM, said:

Perhaps, but on the other hand Mad Dog may be too iconic to just skip it and give it only to limited fraction of your potential buyers. Wouldn't be mad if that was the premium mech though.

Mad Dog is iconic but as a mech in MWO, inferior to the Timber Wolf in almost every aspect.

So it would make sense to give it as a bonus (no way they are not going to monetize the ECM heavy mech Hellbringer).

#125 Indomitus

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 07:17 AM

I can see them doing the Hellbringer as the bonus mech since it will be released before the others. Doing this gives them more time to balance the clans having another ECM mech before CW is implemented. Throwing the Hellbringer in later could cause a lot of QQ in the early stages of CW.

The bonus mech will be released to everyone later anyway, doing the Mad Dog gives PGI no advantage.

#126 Odanan

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 07:22 AM

View PostIndomitus, on 14 September 2014 - 07:17 AM, said:

I can see them doing the Hellbringer as the bonus mech since it will be released before the others. Doing this gives them more time to balance the clans having another ECM mech before CW is implemented. Throwing the Hellbringer in later could cause a lot of QQ in the early stages of CW.

The bonus mech will be released to everyone later anyway, doing the Mad Dog gives PGI no advantage.

That is also a reasonable way of seeing things... but which alternative they will chose?

#127 IraqiWalker

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 07:55 AM

View PostMordin Ashe, on 14 September 2014 - 06:14 AM, said:

Perhaps, but on the other hand Mad Dog may be too iconic to just skip it and give it only to limited fraction of your potential buyers. Wouldn't be mad if that was the premium mech though.


Seriously, where are people getting this weird idea that the mech will be absolutely exclusive, and no one else will get it? So far it sounds like the loyal customers are getting early access to it for free. Probably with a Wave 2 designation. Just like the Invasion mechs, the Phoenix mechs, and the Founders mechs before them.

#128 Hawk819

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 10:03 AM

I've not a clue. All I know is those who bought the Clan Pack Prior to release will receive a free Clan `Mech, and then, only then, will it get released for MechWarrior Credits {First}, then released for C-bills {Second}. Where this idea of an exclusive Clan `Mech came from. You'll need Russ Sherlock and his friend, Paul Watson to deduce that out.

Sorry, Russ and Paul for the Sherlock Holmes reference. :)

#129 CyclonerM

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 11:23 AM

I actually hope that the Mad Dog will be the bonus 'Mech, so i can buy a lower tier package and get the Mad Dog anyway :P

#130 J0anna

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 01:40 PM

I hope the following:

Mad Dog (nearly as iconic as the Timber Wolf) - there's no way they would leave this out
Fire Moth (would give us a real scout (the 'B' variant has ecm) - if they could get MASC working, this would break the game (top speed 216), the mist lynx is just another slow light with ecm on the 'C' variant.
Ice Ferret - always liked this over the Viper, but either is fine
Executioner (it would give us a assault that can jump, and is worlds better than the Gargoyle)

As a Special mech I would die for the Hellbringer (and it would probably become main mech), but I can't see PGI releasing a heavy mech with ecm (at least until they nerf ecm into the ground, like they are talking about). Nonetheless, the Hellbringer is a popular mech so it has a chance.

#131 SemperDie

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 02:12 PM

As much as the Mad Dog (Vulture) is the obvious no brainer choice, the Hellbringer (Loki) would introduce an ECM heavy to the mix.

Edited by SemperDie, 14 September 2014 - 02:13 PM.


#132 Odanan

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 02:18 PM

View PostMoenrg, on 14 September 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

I hope the following:

Mad Dog (nearly as iconic as the Timber Wolf) - there's no way they would leave this out
Fire Moth (would give us a real scout (the 'B' variant has ecm) - if they could get MASC working, this would break the game (top speed 216), the mist lynx is just another slow light with ecm on the 'C' variant.
Ice Ferret - always liked this over the Viper, but either is fine
Executioner (it would give us a assault that can jump, and is worlds better than the Gargoyle)

As a Special mech I would die for the Hellbringer (and it would probably become main mech), but I can't see PGI releasing a heavy mech with ecm (at least until they nerf ecm into the ground, like they are talking about). Nonetheless, the Hellbringer is a popular mech so it has a chance.

There is a 100 tons assault mech with ECM, so, for God's sake, why not a heavy?

BTW,

- Fire Moth would probably be too fast even without MASC.
- it is most likely the assault mech will be the Gargoyle.
- the Mist Lynx has 118.8 km/h top speed (without speed tweak) - that's not very slow. And it has ECM and jumpjets: I think it is better than the Kit Fox.

The Viper and the Ice Ferret are both 129.6 (without speed tweak). The Ice Ferret has 1 more ton for weapons and a little more armor, but the Viper has jumpjets. I think they will choose the Viper simply because it looks more "Clannish" (chicken walker).

#133 L a S e R

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 03:33 PM

And who said the bonus had to be a heavy. This would solve the whole A pod problem

Edited by L a S e R, 14 September 2014 - 03:33 PM.


#134 Jeon Ji Yoon

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 03:36 PM

View PostIndomitus, on 13 September 2014 - 08:20 PM, said:

Considering they WANT to release the invasion mechs, I'm betting it's easier to include the Hellbringer and exclude the canon A-pods.

I don't think anyone is going to break down in tears while screaming "Noooo! They left out the A-pods!!!!"


They could just not release the Prime lol I mean all the others have their Prime variant but there is nothing in what they've said that says they have to release primes.

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 03:56 PM

View PostThorn Hallis, on 09 September 2014 - 04:43 AM, said:

The Kodiak is out of the picture



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Posted 14 September 2014 - 05:06 PM

View PostOdanan, on 14 September 2014 - 02:18 PM, said:

The Viper and the Ice Ferret are both 129.6 (without speed tweak). The Ice Ferret has 1 more ton for weapons and a little more armor, but the Viper has jumpjets. I think they will choose the Viper simply because it looks more "Clannish" (chicken walker).


I wasn't sold on liking the Viper but I've talked myself into it over the past week. Now if it isn't in the package I'm going to be sad lol

#137 LordLosh

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 05:39 PM

Viper looks funky should have some decent hit boxes low and skinny like that

#138 Odanan

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 06:28 PM

I find the Viper beautifully ugly.

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The head reminds me of a locomotive.

#139 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 07:09 PM

Plus it can reuse the Nova's legs.

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 07:18 PM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 14 September 2014 - 07:09 PM, said:

Plus it can reuse the Nova's legs.


I'm with Pariah here. One, Russ stated previously that the Loki is the same as the Thor (Summoner), and that means the same with the Dragonfly (Viper). So we've got two `Mechs have in common. Which should make it easy enough to deduce what two `Mechs are in the Pack. We shall know more come Monday. :)





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