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[Nullzero]

I am never buying another hero mech until...

you guys start writing some backstory for the hero mechs you are bringing out.

You know why DotA and LoL characters have such loyal players? After character abilities, the next most important things are character PERSONALITY and BACKSTORY. Sorry PGI, some fancy textures on an otherwise normal looking mech does NOT cut it. I bought the Wang. I bought the Kintaro. Both are great fun, but where is my backstory? Yes, the Wang has canon story somewhere on some wiki page. If that's the case with a hero mech you will be selling, PUT IT SOMEWHERE. I want to read it!

How are you guys ever going make a single player game when you can't even put some cool backstory for $50 hero mechs??

So there you have it. I am never going to buy another hero mech until you guys start writing some backstory for them. And not only that, I am never buying another mech until you fill in backstory for ALL OF THE HERO MECHS UP UNTIL NOW. *stomps foot*

[meteorol]

I couldn't care less for hero mech backstories

[NextGame]

Heres your backstory for Sparky

•GRF-1E2 Griffin Sparky 2.0 The personal ‘Mech of Leftenant Natasha Ergen of the 5th FedCom RCT, her stock Griffin had been refitted with Ferro-Fibrous armor and a Light Fusion Engine. Fourteen Double Heat sinks and a Targeting Computer allowed Ergen to obtain maximum effect from an all-energy weapons array consisting of an ER PPC, two standard Medium Lasers mounted one per side torso alongside three ER Medium Lasers, one mounted in each torso component. BV (2.0) = 1,862[21]

Have fun.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Griffin

Point being, it's a lore hero, so a backstory already exists for it.

Edited by NextGame, 10 September 2014 - 04:04 AM.

[Mott]

So if Sparky was upgraded in lore... why FFS is MWO's "hero" sold with single heat sinks, standard engine AND standard armor?

PGI is seriously ****ing the dog, every chance they get.

Edited by Mott, 10 September 2014 - 04:18 AM.

[Garandos]

Nearly all Hero mechs have a backstory...

just check sarna, those hero variants usualy are not conjured out of thin air.

[Kmieciu]

NextGame, on 10 September 2014 - 04:03 AM, said:

Heres your backstory for Sparky

•GRF-1E2 Griffin Sparky 2.0 The personal ‘Mech of Leftenant Natasha Ergen of the 5th FedCom RCT, her stock Griffin had been refitted with Ferro-Fibrous armor and a Light Fusion Engine. Fourteen Double Heat sinks and a Targeting Computer allowed Ergen to obtain maximum effect from an all-energy weapons array consisting of an ER PPC, two standard Medium Lasers mounted one per side torso alongside three ER Medium Lasers, one mounted in each torso component. BV (2.0) = 1,862[21]

Have fun.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Griffin

Point being, it's a lore hero, so a backstory already exists for it.

That's Sparky 2.0. We don't have Light Engines, IS ER lasers and Targeting computers. The original Sparky uses 3039 technology:

• GRF-1N Griffin Sparky The personal ‘Mech of Elle Bennett of the 5th Donegal Guards, prior to the War of 3039 she had replaced the LRM launcher of her Griffin with five medium lasers, one mounted in each torso, one beside the PPC and two in Sparky's left arm. The additional weight saved goes towards an extra heat sink and an additional ton of armor. ^[2] BV (2.0) = 1,449^[20]

Edited by Kmieciu, 10 September 2014 - 04:17 AM.

[Mott]

Kmieciu, on 10 September 2014 - 04:17 AM, said:

That's Sparky 2.0. We don't have Light Engines, IS ER lasers and Targeting computers. The original Sparky uses 3039 technology:

• GRF-1N Griffin Sparky The personal ‘Mech of Elle Bennett of the 5th Donegal Guards, prior to the War of 3039 she had replaced the LRM launcher of her Griffin with five medium lasers, one mounted in each torso, one beside the PPC and two in Sparky's left arm. The additional weight saved goes towards an extra heat sink and an additional ton of armor. ^[2] BV (2.0) = 1,449^[20]

Well then.... that answers...

Mott, on 10 September 2014 - 04:13 AM, said:

So if Sparky was upgraded in lore... why FFS is MWO's "hero" sold with single heat sinks, standard engine AND standard armor?

PGI is seriously ****ing the dog, every chance they get.

That.

Snark, uncalled for.

[nonnex]

Beside of the biting phraseology I like the idea of more background information.
For battletech newcomers it would be very nice to have the information about this or that mech available.

Like the one from Sarna:

GRF-1N Griffin Sparky
The personal Mech of Elle Bennett of the 5th Donegal Guards, prior to the War of 3039 she had replaced the LRM launcher of her Griffin with five medium lasers, one mounted in each torso, one beside the PPC and two in Sparky's left arm. The additional weight saved goes towards an extra heat sink and an additional ton of armor.

Edited by nonnex, 10 September 2014 - 04:27 AM.

[DaZur]

​When the community has nothing more to complain about than back-story fluff for premium content... The community needs a good buff / nerf debate to refocus their attention.

[Sarlic]

Are you trolling?

[CyclonerM]

Kmieciu, on 10 September 2014 - 04:17 AM, said:

That's Sparky 2.0. We don't have Light Engines, IS ER lasers and Targeting computers. The original Sparky uses 3039 technology:

• GRF-1N Griffin Sparky The personal ‘Mech of Elle Bennett of the 5th Donegal Guards, prior to the War of 3039 she had replaced the LRM launcher of her Griffin with five medium lasers, one mounted in each torso, one beside the PPC and two in Sparky's left arm. The additional weight saved goes towards an extra heat sink and an additional ton of armor. ^[2] BV (2.0) = 1,449^[20]

Garandos, on 10 September 2014 - 04:14 AM, said:

Nearly all Hero mechs have a backstory...

just check sarna, those hero variants usualy are not conjured out of thin air.

Sure, but what prevents Niko from copy-pasting that backstorty from Sarna?

BTW, i totally agree with the OP. Even a few lines of background are appreciated, it is all about the small things, quiaff?

Edited by CyclonerM, 10 September 2014 - 04:25 AM.

[The Great Unwashed]

The OP suffers from a severe case of entitlement...

[Malcolm Vordermark]

Mott, on 10 September 2014 - 04:13 AM, said:

So if Sparky was upgraded in lore... why FFS is MWO's "hero" sold with single heat sinks, standard engine AND standard armor?

PGI is seriously ****ing the dog, every chance they get.

It was probably this sparky, which did not incorporate those upgrades. Sparky 2.0 has technology unavailable to the IS until 3062.

GRF-1N Griffin Sparky
The personal ‘Mech of Elle Bennett of the 5th Donegal Guards, prior to the War of 3039 she had replaced the LRM launcher of her Griffin with five medium lasers, one mounted in each torso, one beside the PPC and two in Sparky's left arm. The additional weight saved goes towards an extra heat sink and an additional ton of armor.

Edited by Rouken, 10 September 2014 - 04:30 AM.

[Alistair Winter]

Totally. We need more lore like the quality novel Garth Erlam wrote for the Jester:

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“Hahaha, BAM, did you see that ‘Phract-get-Pulted? Right outta the air!” shouted Leigh Voss with glee, her Catapult, mid-air, shooting down an opposing Cataphract (also midair.)

“Stay off the comms Voss! Bravo Lance, what is your situation?” replied her Commander, clearly annoyed at her clowning in live combat.

“We are fine, I’ve just pushed through their left flank!” she replied, grinning a grin reminiscent of her Mech, the ‘Jester’.
“How the hell are yo-“

“WOO! Highlander down, where’s your DFA now, you slow ba-“ she yelled in reply, having pushed not only past the left flank, but behind it. Her brightly coloured Catapult soaring over the enemy line: twin large, medium, and small lasers coring out the Highlander from behind.

“VOSS! STAY OFF THE COMS! Bravo are you close to Voss?” the Commander yelled back, clearly unable to deal with Leigh and her unorthodox (and borderline insubordinate) style.

“We’re right behind her Sir, not much left to take out, their left flank has disintegrated.”

“Speaking of disintegrated, check out that Shadowhawk – he went down with no arms OR legs!” she replied with a smarmy undertone.

The Commander didn’t bother replying, and to be honest, her seemingly-suicidal charge having broken the entire left flank of the enemy, and their centre and right flank were both retreating.

“This is Charlie lance, enemy Jenner and Raven down, they’re in full retreat.”

The Commander looked at the retreating enemy ahead of him, firing his weapons into the back of an Atlas, removing its right torso and arm in a dull ‘thud’ he heard even 400 metres away. He’d heard about this pilot – Leigh Voss and her bizarre brightly coloured Catapult; grinning cat face on the front – but never imagined she would be this difficult to command… or this difficult to deny her skill.

“Confirmed. Alpha lance also advancing, all lances forward.” He sighed, happy they were going to win this, but at the same time…

“Told you it’d be fine Sir! I’m already just outside their next line, attacking now!”

My own homage to Garth Erlam's story did not get as much positive response, but it's still very dear to me:

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"Sir, look at me kill this Highlander while doing a backflip!"
"Miss Voss, get back in line. And is that chewing gum I hear?"
"I'm having way too much fun, Mr. Commander! Weee, I just killed some infantry!"
"Miss Voss, you come back here this instant. And spit out your gum!"
"I'm sorry, Mr. Commander, but Joshua in Bravo lance asked if I could stay over at Epsilon and he's totally cute and everything!"
"Oh Miss Voss, go on then, you little rascal! Oh, to be young again..."

Edited by Alistair Winter, 10 September 2014 - 04:28 AM.

[NextGame]

Kmieciu, on 10 September 2014 - 04:17 AM, said:

That's Sparky 2.0. We don't have Light Engines, IS ER lasers and Targeting computers. The original Sparky uses 3039 technology:

• GRF-1N Griffin Sparky The personal ‘Mech of Elle Bennett of the 5th Donegal Guards, prior to the War of 3039 she had replaced the LRM launcher of her Griffin with five medium lasers, one mounted in each torso, one beside the PPC and two in Sparky's left arm. The additional weight saved goes towards an extra heat sink and an additional ton of armor. ^[2] BV (2.0) = 1,449^[20]

That's the one I meant to copy paste, guess I wasn't paying attention. It does beg the question though if the DHS version is out of timeline lore-wise or not.

[CyclonerM]

NextGame, on 10 September 2014 - 04:27 AM, said:

. It does beg the question though if the DHS version is out of timeline lore-wise or not.

The IS has no light fusion engines and Targeting Computers, so my guess is no

[NextGame]

nonnex, on 10 September 2014 - 04:21 AM, said:

Beside of the biting phraseology I like the idea of more background information.
For battletech newcomers it would be very nice to have the information about this or that mech available.

Like the one from Sarna:

GRF-1N Griffin Sparky
The personal Mech of Elle Bennett of the 5th Donegal Guards, prior to the War of 3039 she had replaced the LRM launcher of her Griffin with five medium lasers, one mounted in each torso, one beside the PPC and two in Sparky's left arm. The additional weight saved goes towards an extra heat sink and an additional ton of armor.

I think all mech's should have a bit of fluff text when you click them in the store, mechlab or skill tree that basically gives you either a lore background or a few lines about what role that mech variant is typically used for etc. While you can get more creative with the Hero's, some basic guidance that states "this mech is commonly seen as an LRM boat" or "this mech is a favourite of crack snipers" etc would serve as cheap but useful guidance for people new to the game in particular.

[nonnex]

Yeah, it could be just a small (i) icon that shows a short background and some other info. For example personal stats out of our webstats, like how many time piloted, KDR, wins/losses etc.

Edited by nonnex, 10 September 2014 - 04:40 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

NextGame, on 10 September 2014 - 04:03 AM, said:

Heres your backstory for Sparky

•GRF-1E2 Griffin Sparky 2.0 The personal ‘Mech of Leftenant Natasha Ergen of the 5th FedCom RCT, her stock Griffin had been refitted with Ferro-Fibrous armor and a Light Fusion Engine. Fourteen Double Heat sinks and a Targeting Computer allowed Ergen to obtain maximum effect from an all-energy weapons array consisting of an ER PPC, two standard Medium Lasers mounted one per side torso alongside three ER Medium Lasers, one mounted in each torso component. BV (2.0) = 1,862[21]

Have fun.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Griffin

Point being, it's a lore hero, so a backstory already exists for it.

But not everybody knew to look up that Mech on Sarna. Would it kill them to copy and paste that info?

[NextGame]

Joseph Mallan, on 10 September 2014 - 04:56 AM, said:

But not everybody knew to look up that Mech on Sarna. Would it kill them to copy and paste that info?

I would hope that they would copy paste the right entry, and not the wrong one that I did