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#541 CSPshala

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 05:51 PM

*you see a knight, clad in white plate armor cresting the hill. PGI descends from the heavens and slaps him in the face with all the money they gave for a product that was never really delivered to their claims. As he stands up and opens his face guard he exclaims*

I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM GUYS!

*The last you see before he fades into obscurity, he closes his face guard with a fart-smelling look of smugness and superiority*


If 28 pages of bitter enemies agreeing on **** doesn't get through your thick brain-case then we're done here.

Edited by CSPshala, 10 September 2014 - 05:52 PM.


#542 GaussDragon

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 05:53 PM

View PostCSPshala, on 10 September 2014 - 05:45 PM, said:

I generally don't like GaussDragon

KaoS/Goon fallouts were my first taste of CW... and I liked it.

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 05:53 PM

Maybe you, PGI, ought to consider actually finishing MWO sometime. That might work better than trying to paper over a shitstorm caused by you by trying to blame others.

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 05:54 PM

View PostCSPshala, on 10 September 2014 - 05:43 PM, said:

Someone said it before when we all were eating each other alive over #saveMWO.

COMMUNITY WARFARE IS THIS!! THEY MAKE US FIGHT EACH OTHER!


SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!! I SEE FOUR LIGHTS!

Incidentally, seeing a lance of four lights is how you know you're not up against Steiner forces.

Edited by MarsAtlas, 10 September 2014 - 05:54 PM.


#545 Crazyeyes244

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 05:54 PM

View PostIceGryphon, on 10 September 2014 - 05:42 PM, said:

They probably just copied and pasted info from their powerpoint when open beta started.
It was suppose to be 60~90 days after October 29, 2012 (OpenBeta)
My Math might be wrong but if today is 9/10/2014. That means it has been 681 days over due.

I can bet you 60million C-bills not a single part of the code is written right now.
They do this smoke and mirrors time and time again.
How many times are you people going to fall for it?


Yup. Just more of the same. Give us screenshots, videos, something. Surely it didn't take you this long to just refine the powerpoint into a design doc. Just screams bandaid to me given the recent uproar.

My earlier statement still stands: Prove me wrong, PGI.

#546 CSPshala

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 05:54 PM

View PostGaussDragon, on 10 September 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

KaoS/Goon fallouts were my first taste of CW... and I liked it.


What could have been dude!

Do you realize how much more we could have hated each other?!?!

It would have just been the goddamn best!

#547 S3dition

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 05:55 PM

View PostCSPshala, on 10 September 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

*you see a knight, clad in white plate armor cresting the hill. PGI descends from the heavens and slaps him in the face with all the money they gave for a product that was never really delivered to their claims. As he stands up and opens his face guard he exclaims*

I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM GUYS!

*The last you see before he fades into obscurity, he closes his face guard with a fart-smelling look of smugness and superiority*


If 28 pages of bitter enemies agreeing on **** doesn't get through your thick brain-case then we're done here.


So you have no clue what you're doing here or what you're demanding? Just going to steal yourself a set of nikes on the way out?

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 05:55 PM

To your credit Niko, you didn't kill the game; it would have killed itself. What PGI is trying to sell is not even a game; $1,000,000 is literally space bumper cars. Another 'completed game' they could add to their stunning protfolio.

What you did was ban people who expressed an opposing viewpoint. That's not moderating.

I miss the posts where PGI talked about game development instead of back pedalling. Well, trying to backpedal like a flaming clown on bath salts.

To PGI in general:
You're not the victims. What scares me most is the attitude PGI has developed. You're condescending towards any kind of criticism people offer. When people finally backlash (because it's the only way to get a reaction) you adopt a self-victimizing aura. You're perpetuating this this feedback cycle.

Take a break, do something fun for a week (be a lumberjack?) and go back to the attitude you (PGI) had in the begginning.

Best of luck with your hangar module sim.

#549 S3dition

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 05:56 PM

View PostThrasymachus, on 10 September 2014 - 05:55 PM, said:

I miss the posts where PGI talked about game development instead of back pedalling. Well, trying to backpedal like a flaming clown on bath salts.


I miss Garth

Edited by S3dition, 10 September 2014 - 05:57 PM.


#550 Vhetra

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 05:56 PM

View PostCSPshala, on 10 September 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

*you see a knight, clad in white plate armor cresting the hill. PGI descends from the heavens and slaps him in the face with all the money they gave for a product that was never really delivered to their claims. As he stands up and opens his face guard he exclaims* I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM GUYS! *The last you see before he fades into obscurity, he closes his face guard with a fart-smelling look of smugness and superiority* If 28 pages of bitter enemies agreeing on **** doesn't get through your thick brain-case then we're done here.



QFT and also hilarity. I've never been part of Kong or Lowtax, or anyone else, though I stuck to /mwog/ for a long time...

I've pretty much been on their side this whole time though I also supported #saveMWO. Seeing everyone come together brings wonderful tears to my eyes. At this point I don't care if I get banned, this is absolute insanity and I'm done with it.

Arena Commander v0.9 when?

Edited by Vhetra, 10 September 2014 - 06:00 PM.


#551 Corvus Antaka

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:00 PM

Thanks for finally delivering community warfare PGI!!!

Spot.On.Perfect.

#552 Osric Lancaster

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:00 PM

Holy ****, please tell me someone is saving this beautiful train wreck for posterity.

View PostS3dition, on 10 September 2014 - 05:56 PM, said:

I miss Garth


Sure, but Niko's still pretty goddamn far from the peak of evil or ineptitude PGI has to offer.

#553 CSPshala

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:01 PM

**** even Pada Vinson I agree with.

Jesus christ.

CATS AND DOGS! LIVING TOGETHER!

#554 MostlyHarmless

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:01 PM

View PostS3dition, on 10 September 2014 - 05:56 PM, said:


I miss Garth

We all miss Garth, just glad that no more pr blunders can be blamed on him.

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:06 PM

I really hesitated even logging in since I didn't want to contribute to any skewed PGI statistics about activity.... But since all the old founders are having a renunion, mind as well.

Niko, get a reality check. You might be able to be a draconian tyrant here, but don't cry when others find you unwelcome elsewhere. It's like PGI caught wind of catch phrases like crowd funding and reddit and space sim and $5000 ships and suddenly thought that's all there was to reaching success. This is a case of infants finding their way onto the internet and childishly handling a beloved IP and setting new lows for professionalism.

#556 Novakaine

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:06 PM

View PostWatchit, on 10 September 2014 - 05:49 PM, said:

What's the phenomenon where strangers who go through a traumatic experience together form a strong bond? it's kinda like that I think.


Stockholm syndrome

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:07 PM

Welp

Edited by DeathlyEyes, 10 September 2014 - 06:08 PM.


#558 S3dition

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:07 PM

Well, at this point I'm a bit burned out (not from this, just general work and such). I imagine we all have a fair chance of being banned come morning. If so, huzzah! It's been an interesting ride these last 3 years.

Left handed salute!

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#559 CSPshala

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:08 PM

View PostNovakaine, on 10 September 2014 - 06:06 PM, said:

Stockholm syndrome


Nah that's what White Knights have.

Like when your S/O beats you repeatedly and you love them despite of it.

#560 CompproB237

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:08 PM

In response to the OP (Niko): I initially thought you were a cool guy. I enjoyed your posts in the Meme Thread. Your interactions with the community seemed pleasant from what I had seen. As I grew tired of the glacial development, lies, missed deadlines, and the failure to deliver on content of MWO I began to view other forum's opinions besides here. After visiting other forums I began to see the truth: my initial views of you were wrong.

You created a new Code of Conduct that included allowing moderation based on third party websites.
You thought it was OK to moderate people on your game based on their criticism of said game on third party websites.
You thought it was OK to delete dissent and opposing opinions on Reddit.
These actions, in an ironic twist, ended up violating the Code of Conduct/Terms of Service for Reddit.

You regarded dissent, differing opinions, and negative views of the game or the company you work for to Harassment. Harassment is very different than having a negative view of you, your game, or your company and stating your opinion on it. This diminishes the meaning of these and undermines the real issues behind them. Granted, some people can take it too far. I do admit I’ve seen some people go beyond and possibly in to the realm of harassment. Although, as seen on third party websites, I’ve also seen respectful concern being expressed which was also equated to ‘Harassment’. Basically, what you ended up showing us was that you would use a term to allow yourself to silence the people that do not agree with your views. It’s as if I’m witnessing a case-study of the Framing effect.

Now, here is where I present to you what really concerns me. Your behavior, including the company you work for as well as other members of that company, could be equated to Harassment as well. You have, under many circumstances, harassed your own clients. You’ve mocked them (although, without stating specific names) by either referencing to the actions of individuals that, upon investigation, was actually a reference to a specific person. You, and your company, have also been seen harassing its very own clients. Those that are “on an island” as you’ve been seen calling them. That was basically an offensive and derogatory term that was created to refer to people with differing views to your position at the time. The “Vocal Minority” is yet another derogatory term that was created. These are perfect examples of Harassment. You, your company, and its employees exhibited behavior that was, be it unintentionally or intentionally, upsetting and/or disturbing to a group of its clients. Although, this has backfired on you with most of the players that you’ve called “on an island” now embracing the term as a badge of honor.


To sum up my position in respect to your company’s Reddit problems, I will use the posting form most know me for;

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