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#981 StaIker

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 04:36 AM

I regretted my Founders purchase almost immediately on seeing the game design. It was apparent that the people making the decisions knew nothing at all about what MechWarrior was and worse, they had no interest in learning from those that did. Events have proven that initial impression correct. I was happy to support the MechWarrior IP and I would again. But not while PGI controls it. This entire development process has been a debacle.

#982 Lord Ikka

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 04:36 AM

Man, never thought I'd see you back Crimson!

#983 Nightfire

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 04:39 AM

What I have to say is short.

View PostDV McKenna, on 10 September 2014 - 11:44 AM, said:

You broke rules; you got removed.

It's what you do to people here; why should you be different on 3rd party sites?

Will this make you think about how you operate here and have treated people recently?


/qft
/agree
/signed

Edited by Nightfire, 11 September 2014 - 04:40 AM.


#984 Lysander Voidrunner

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 04:40 AM

Well this is a PR nightmare. Niko and PGI screwed up royally and a bunch of green-tinted trolls latched on to make it into more of a clusterfark than it already was. Karma is a cruel mistress as PGI just found out. Let that be a lesson to all, even the goons.

#985 r4plez

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 04:42 AM

No one will help you Niko, after you burned so many bridges..

http://themittani.co...l-transreversal

#986 PlzDie

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 04:48 AM

Vassago Rain says hi from the island, and wishes that PGI would fire Niko.

#987 Alexander Steel

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 04:49 AM

View PostThe Great Unwashed, on 11 September 2014 - 04:26 AM, said:

I do not like space sims where the sky is the limit, actually :ph34r:


Non-Sky Limit - Funding Goal 10 Miiiiillllion dollars.

#988 HRR Mary

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 04:54 AM

View PostDuppie1974, on 11 September 2014 - 04:48 AM, said:

Vassago Rain says hi from the island, and wishes that PGI would fire Niko.


I think Vass would also like that MW fired PGI (at least the triumvirate of fools).

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 04:59 AM

View Postredlance, on 10 September 2014 - 07:47 PM, said:

You treated us like crap PGI, now were gonna follow you around for the rest of time until you die, and make sure everything you touch turns to crap. I hope your company dies. I hope you all lose your jobs and your wives leave you for EA exec's, and you get sick and end up homeless and rot in a gutter. You broke my heart, we built units from the ground up just to watch in horror as you ripped them down you greedy ******* heads.


This is excessive and ridiculous.

The thought of wishing harm, not just harm but complete life failure, just because somebody took a video game in a direction you're not happy with... is.... moronic.

PGI has made some mistakes, treated their community like crap, and ruined some aspects of a video game. All of it could be fixed. The question is, will they try to?

And even if they don't, wishing illness and destitution and divorce on them just makes you look like a [voluntarily redacted].

#990 Yiphyin

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:01 AM

I just listened to the entire Town Hall and found it pretty awesome. Then this. Seriously, nothing good comes from treating your community with hate and scorn. Remove Niko and put him on some non-customer facing thing. Like cutting coupons for the company lunches.

#991 Stonefalcon

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:07 AM

View PostYiphyin, on 11 September 2014 - 05:01 AM, said:

I just listened to the entire Town Hall and found it pretty awesome. Then this. Seriously, nothing good comes from treating your community with hate and scorn. Remove Niko and put him on some non-customer facing thing. Like cutting coupons for the company lunches.

The problem is not wholly with Niko. It's with the people sitting in the big plush chairs ignoring common sense in favor of cash grabbing. Greed is a filthy beast and brings out the worst in man.

#992 wanderer

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:09 AM

View PostCavale, on 10 September 2014 - 10:16 PM, said:

I was referring to you coming onto their turf to slag them. As well as the general bile they're getting for running their ****. Yeah, they ****** up on Reddit. What the **** ever. Go back there, you puss filled vitriol spewing sack.


Yep, they done goofed on Reddit.

And then they done goofed on here.

And, IMHO, goofed on some kind of recreational chemicals of epic proportions for weeks to get to the point where Transverse seemed reasonable, creating a reddit in an attempt to build an advertising cross-linking spam machine controlled by PGI (hint: buy ads next time) for free, and then opening their mouth (via Niko) to complain about it in some of the most unprofessional language I have seen from a gaming company to date.

All those Founder's tags say this is -our- turf. To many's eternal shame, we paid for the place, and this is the forum to which people who paid for and/or play the game come. People saw something being done badly and actually cared enough to come here and say something about it, even after being totally disenchanted with PGI's products. We're the founders- you know, from which the word "foundation" also derives, the guys and gals who put out the money to make this place exist in the first place, and quite often more atop that to help keep it going, on the promises of the folks in PGI that it'd be used well.

Many of us disagree with that, especially with the current actions that precipitated this thread. This is the result. And Niko, my good sir, started the entire avalanche with his initial post. He did wrong, then he stood on the front lawn and complained about getting the company's knuckles smacked with a ruler. Reap what you sow.

#993 Felmyst

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:10 AM

Lol.
Just lol.

#994 Yiphyin

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:11 AM

I agree with that, Stonefalcon, but Niko seems to be the most visible aspect of this problem especially with the bans and now this recent thing. There is more that needs to be done of course but this would be a good start.

#995 Stonefalcon

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:14 AM

View PostYiphyin, on 11 September 2014 - 05:11 AM, said:

I agree with that, Stonefalcon, but Niko seems to be the most visible aspect of this problem especially with the bans and now this recent thing. There is more that needs to be done of course but this would be a good start.

If only founders had votes equivalent to the value of the package they purchased and could actually participate in company directives with that voting power.

#996 Vhetra

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:14 AM

View PostAlex Gorsky, on 11 September 2014 - 03:51 AM, said:

This thread reminds old kind times :D


Don't worry, the vocal minority that we are will get shoved to the island again.

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:17 AM

mittani's comparison to CCP a couple years ago is spot on. I was in Eve then and i've been comparing PGI to CCP this whole time, the behavior is very similar, the arrogance is very similar, using devs from one project to push content on another, leaving the main game without content, etc.

the main difference is that CCP recognized reality eventually and actually refocused the game on what people wanted, rather than just continuing to be {Richard Cameron} about it

#998 Stonefalcon

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:18 AM

View PostJason1138, on 11 September 2014 - 05:17 AM, said:

mittani's comparison to CCP a couple years ago is spot on. I was in Eve then and i've been comparing PGI to CCP this whole time, the behavior is very similar, the arrogance is very similar, using devs from one project to push content on another, leaving the main game without content, etc.

the main difference is that CCP recognized reality eventually and actually refocused the game on what people wanted, rather than just continuing to be {Richard Cameron} about it

Is this the monocle debacle were talking about regarding CCP?

#999 EGG

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:18 AM

Funniest thread ever

#1000 Yiphyin

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 05:19 AM

Well, I absolutely love the Mechwarrior franchise but past the initial Founder's purchase I haven't put much if any additional money into the game. I think if the company was operating out of a place of communication and respect, like the Town Hall thing, then I would be much more inclined to do so.

Having voting be by Founder's tags would kinda limit the community interaction to just the old guard and that would add to people thinking they weren't listened to if they didn't have a founder's tag.





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