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King Crab - Bringing Back Phoenix Or Founders


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#401 Destructicus

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 10:28 AM

View Postthemoob, on 18 September 2014 - 09:07 PM, said:

To the people who say there's been too many packs:

Yeah there has been a lot... all clan packs though. We need some variety! Many people want to drop money on packs but don't want clan mechs. Fill a niche for us PGI!

You forget there has already been two IS packs
Founders and Phoenix, 3 if you count Saber
Now there have been 2 IS packs
It's even
I might also remind you that for a year and half we had nothing but IS mechs
I'm not trying to argue here, I'm just saying people losing **** about the focus on clan mechs should look back and realize that the IS has been the focal point of this game for a longer period of time.

#402 Duymon

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 10:29 AM

View PostGut, on 19 September 2014 - 09:13 AM, said:

How about making whatever new package free for people who got Founders+Phoenix+Clan1+Clan2 Full out? I think people who supported top tier all the way deserve something.


They got what they deserved: The mechs they paid for. Of all the people who would be clamoring for free mechs I doubt it'd be the whales (in F2p terms) who put in a lot of cash into the game.

Edited by Duymon, 19 September 2014 - 10:34 AM.


#403 Falcore

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 10:42 AM

I would not mind a new IS $80 package that lets you pick your mechs that you want. Draw from the original mechs offered, Overloard package and maybe add a new mech in there that is exclusive to the package for awhile. I really like how you did the clan reinforcement package but letting people pick what they wanted. The Archer would be a great mech for being exclusive with this package.

#404 Wintersdark

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 10:43 AM

View PostTerciel1976, on 18 September 2014 - 08:27 PM, said:


You could also simply sell it like a hero mech. Nobody would rally have a legit complaint about that. Those who get it as a perk still get it free and those who say they want it enough to pay for it (or a big package to get it) can.



This. Just sell it for MC, give it for free to existing package holders as planned.


(and the mad dog, too)

Edited by Wintersdark, 19 September 2014 - 10:45 AM.


#405 Prezimonto

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 10:46 AM

What about creating a side-step package reward for all the people who have spent over 150$ on MC (instead of just ANY MC).

Perhaps make the equal to the top tier package, and so qualify for new KC? Or perhaps, considering putting out a slight different geometry/paint job KC for them?

#406 Robert Corso

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 10:51 AM

I have no problem with old package deals being reintroduced. I can't see how it would devalue my mechs or gameplay in anyway. If given the choice between seeing the founders package being rereleased or a new pack of new IS mechs. I'd say new mechs. I love new mechs.

#407 VirtualSmitty

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 10:57 AM

I am all for this. Would pay 80 dollars for an urbanmech pack!

#408 RacerX

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 11:02 AM

Sounds to me like an excellent opportunity to re-invigorate the Urban Mech initiative!

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 11:05 AM

Okay, while I understand the cult following the Urbie has, please DO NOT saddle the rest of us with it by stuffing it into a package deal. Some folks want it in game, and that's fine, toss it in, but don't ruin a package deal with it. I have no desire to own a slow trash can of a mech, ever, for any reason. Put it in for the fluff lovers, but leave it a separate entity.

#410 WarHippy

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 11:09 AM

Another option would be to make a "I want in on the fun pack". For $80 give them 12,000MC, maybe a couple mech bays, and the King Crab bonus mech that started this entire discussion when it comes out.

#411 dario03

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 11:10 AM

View Postkamiko kross, on 19 September 2014 - 09:45 AM, said:

This is aklso sensible idea. I'd like to be able to sell ALL the clan mechs I got on my Is account and just keep the crab. I run a 2nd account, I bought the full masakari pack on "faith" and I don't really enjoy the clan mechs much. If the only way to get the crab is to buy a clan pack, I would but only if I could sell them all and get at least the cbills for them.
I personally have little issue with the whole thing, excepting the attitude pushed by people about the PP etc. A 2nd way to egt the crab would be appreciated, hence why I suggested my charity idea.

The "tough you can't have what we have/are gonna get, we are special" line isn't really appropriate or acceptable. I bought my clan pack on"faith," the limited time offer that is STILL going on even as wave 2 is on sale lol. You can still buy the pack even though half the mechs you can have for cbills, except the difference here is my ego isn't tied to my purchase:) I'm genuinely happy for each person that manages to get a pack. I got my paints/vanity items etc and they mean nothing. I'm not special nor did I "earn" anything by paying out money.

I really appreciate your communication and attitude towards this Russ, respectful and appropriate, thank you.


Well thank you. I've never had a issue with Russ and I figure yelling at him wouldn't help my suggestion. And I figured that since there has been a lot more communication lately that the rewards for money spent would be a good suggestion to the reward system. Though oddly even that has been met with some people attacking it because they think I'm being greedy (while wanting to keep every thing for themselves...ironic I guess).

But I would be up for a charity option as well. I'm always a sucker for those lol. Doesn't even have to be 100% to charity. I can't even tell you how many games I have from Humble Bundle that I bought but never played just because it looked some what interesting and part of the money went to charity.

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 11:12 AM

View PostHelsbane, on 19 September 2014 - 11:05 AM, said:

Okay, while I understand the cult following the Urbie has, please DO NOT saddle the rest of us with it by stuffing it into a package deal. Some folks want it in game, and that's fine, toss it in, but don't ruin a package deal with it. I have no desire to own a slow trash can of a mech, ever, for any reason. Put it in for the fluff lovers, but leave it a separate entity.


I'm sure others felt the same way about the Locust and Adder but they bought the pack anyway. Hardly seems fair to deny the Urbie for such a petty reason.

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 11:31 AM

Since the clan package wave 1 was announced I was tempted to order several times. But I really was hoping for CW to arrive so I remained loyal to house Steiner.

So ... YES ... please give us that IS Reinforcement Pack.

Zeus would be kind of mandatory to this Steiner Pilot though :D

Edited by ZelloStorm, 19 September 2014 - 11:31 AM.


#414 Nathan Foxbane

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 11:46 AM

View PostZelloStorm, on 19 September 2014 - 11:31 AM, said:

Since the clan package wave 1 was announced I was tempted to order several times. But I really was hoping for CW to arrive so I remained loyal to house Steiner.

So ... YES ... please give us that IS Reinforcement Pack.

Zeus would be kind of mandatory to this Steiner Pilot though :D

I would love to see a Zeus in an IS pack. Especially the 6Y, not that the Binary Laser Cannon is a particularly great weapon, but it is a frikkin' BINARY LASER CANNON.

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 11:46 AM

If you make a package that includes the Flea, I will be interested. I am also interested in the Champion, but Flea comes first!

Alternatively, maybe start setting up for the post-Invasion timeline. Offer pre-orders on packages that include such Inner Sphere 'Mechs as the the Black Hawk-KU, BJ-O, Raptor, etc.

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 11:56 AM

View PostRuss Bullock, on 18 September 2014 - 08:23 PM, said:


Excellent Question that I knew would come up quickly.

No at this point with the new Map production process it would not effect the production of Maps or CW, however no I do not believe we could get this done by the same Dec 16th deadline. If there was interest we would need to meet and schedule internally but it would almost certainly need to slip into the new year guessing a date beyond that would be irresponsible at this point.


if this became a reality, the IS selection I would jump at, would be

Zeus, Grasshopper, Hermes, either Javelin/Panther resisted temptation to say Urbanmech.

A combo of any these, as a four group is going to be over the $80 mark, would suit me fine.

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 12:34 PM

View PostWarHippy, on 19 September 2014 - 11:12 AM, said:


I'm sure others felt the same way about the Locust and Adder but they bought the pack anyway. Hardly seems fair to deny the Urbie for such a petty reason.


Yeah, and everyone I've spoken with about those purchases hate the fact that they basically got a few good mechs, but had to get some junk in the process. Some of it they can't even get rid of. I'm just hopeful that we'll get a package without 'filler' this time around.

There are so many more mechs that bring the words 'effective', 'useful', or 'viable' to mind. Urbanmech, well, doesn't. If I'm gonna spend money, I don't want a PoS fluff mech as a part of the deal.

Another solution is to have it as an option for those that like the portly little ******* for some reason. Then have a different unit for those of us that want nothing to do with it aside from it being a place to let our crosshairs rest.

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 12:40 PM

bought the overlord but was so underwhelmed by the mechs I declined to buy the saber. I might still buy a new IS mech pack, but I would want to know how the hitboxes and hardpoint mounts are.

Of course if the pack had the Mauler, Grasshopper, Dervish and Wolfhound I could buy the sh** out of that. (I would also accept a Zeus instead of the Mauler

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 12:41 PM

I would say I would support this as I'm not Much of a clanner and new IS mechs would rock. I would suggest the regular crab for the medium slot :) I mean it just makes since

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 12:48 PM

After concideration I'd just sell it for MC or something. Limited time only deal etc.





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