ShadowbaneX, on 06 October 2014 - 03:28 AM, said:
If someone comes up with a reasonable answer, I'd be happy to stop. Thing is I've not seen one. So, no, I won't stop. Also, as mentioned above, the King Crab that's being offered is a special variant with a bonus that will not be available for MC nor c-bills.
You hopefully ARE aware that the EXACT same variant will be available, on teh same day for MC, right? Just without the "Hey, thanks" cbill bonus and camo... that`s the only thing special about it, but oyu seem to be attemppting to imply more.....
Again, he only things unique to the "freebie"are the c-bill bonus and paintjob, and maybe small details in the geometry. Same deal as with the Clan Primes, Same with the Phoenix variants. Expecting anything else is lying to yourself and disregarding precedent at the same time. If it were an actual hero mech as you seem to be implying, it would most certainly be available at a later date for MC, more likely sooner than later, otherwise the P2W whining would be deafening, completely regardless of how good the mech itself actually is. Unique hardpoints only for Money, ok. That`s a hero mech. Unique hardpoints, only for money spent on previous purchases and never to be available again? That`s a PR Nightmare.
And the limited offers we spent money on were therefore, very specifically, 3 Mechs per tier, one of them with a unique geometry, a 30% c-bill bonus, and a special paint job, and 3 mewchbays per tier. The entire rest was fluff, and with very few exceptions (loyalty medallions, LTD modules) can be purchased "normally" today or in the near future . The ONLY things not available today are the 30% cbill bonus on those specific chassis (but you can get 50% with premium time, which is cheaper anyway), special paint job, and "unique geometry" (Locust window rollcage, anyone?)
THE MECHS THEMSELVES were the limited time offer. Or rather, the c-bill boost on a "prime" variant of mech X. You can still buy the exact same mech today, just not with a c-bill boost.
And that`s why there will be no phoenix upgrade, because at that point EVERONE that purchased a phoenix pack IMMEDIATELY becomes legally entitled to a full refund as a direct result of willful false advertising. The same holds true for Founders.
The ONLY reason the clans can still be upgraded is because those are still for sale absolutely normally, just without the preorder bonuses. If I go to mcDonalds and order a Big Mac, I can always upgrade to a value meal,
as long as they still sell them.
You on the other hand standing at the drive in window asking why you can` have a free refill on the coffee you bought yesterday, using current customers standing in the store paying for their coffee NOW and getting a refill as some form of twisted rationalization as to why you should get something free, too.
People like that generally don`t care about
someone else losing hundreds of thousands of dollars due to what would be a really damn idiotic business decision, as long as they get their own personal rocks off. Just like they don`t care about tens of thousands of other players maybe feeling like they were lied to, again, as long as they get their own personal rocks off.
We`ve already accepted that likely the only answer you`ll willingly consider is "YES, ALL PACKS EVER MADE, available now and for forever, or at least until the king crab release." , just so you can avoid purchasing a current top tier package (why is entirely irrelevant, the fact is there is one currently offered and you absolutely refuse to buy it for entirely personal reasons that nobody is obligated to care about whatsoever ) and still get the top tier purchase bonus.
It all boills down to "I want the King Crab, but absolutely refuse to spend more than 40 bucks and /or purchase clan mechs, so the only thing I`ll accept is being able to retroactively upgrade my Storm to Overlord, even if x thousand other people get pissed off by it and demand a refund. So release a new pack or I won`t stop whining" To be frank about it, I would demand a refund, repurchase the non boosted mechs with c-bills, and would be guaranteed to never spend another cent if people were allowed to upgrade Phoenix packages a year after the sale ended.
Now, consider also that I purchased Masakari, Overlord, and all but the last 3 or 4 IS hero mechs, buy premium time in 180 day chunks, and own close to 100 filled mechbays, each mech having it`s own distinct paint scheme.. Compared JUST to that, your storm package, any hero mechs you own, and most if not all of your mechbays and their contents are worth, well, basically nothing. I have shown PGI that I either have a bigger wallet than you do, or am at least willing to spend significantly more, and more regularly. And I know a few dozen who have as much or more, and there are probably a few hundred if not thousand more of them, many also owning founders and a gold mech or even 2.
So if you really think that you`re more important than thousands of "me", with all due respect I think you may be completely dissociated from the realities of life in a capitalist society. This is not Soviet Russia, where everyone gets the same regardless of what they give.
Therefore ANYTHING that PGI offers you or anyone else that missed out on these for whatever reason should be viewed as the kindest possible gesture they can make, and jumped at. They are in no way onbligated to make it retroactively possible for anyone to get free stuff, and the possibility to qualify is still in place as I type this. They are going out of their way specifically to appease the whiners on this one if they do anything at all.
And if they do, maybe show a bit of gratitude instead of acting like they and teh rest of the world owe you something, because neither is the case.
Edited by Zerberus, 06 October 2014 - 11:00 AM.