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[Kaptain]

Sky Hawk, on 03 October 2014 - 10:45 AM, said:

OK, let do some Math:

0 Kill + 6 Assist + 1050 DMG/15 = 130
0 Kill + 8 Assist + 750 DMG/15 = 130
0 Kill + 10 Assist + 450 DMG/15 = 130

1 Kill + 4 Assist + 1050 DMG/15 = 130
1 Kill + 6 Assist + 750 DMG/15 = 130
1 Kill + 8 Assist + 450 DMG/15 = 130
1 Kill + 10 Assist + 150 DMG/15 = 130

2 Kill + 2 Assist + 1050 DMG/15 = 130
2 Kill + 4 Assist + 750 DMG/15 = 130
2 Kill + 6 Assist + 450 DMG/15 = 130
2 Kill + 8 Assist + 150 DMG/15 = 130

3 Kill + 0 Assist + 1050 DMG/15 = 130
3 Kill + 2 Assist + 750 DMG/15 = 130
3 Kill + 4 Assist + 450 DMG/15 = 130
3 Kill + 6 Assist + 150 DMG/15 = 130

4 Kill + 0 Assist + 750 DMG/15 = 130
4 Kill + 2 Assist + 450 DMG/15 = 130
4 Kill + 4 Assist + 150 DMG/15 = 130

5 Kill + 0 Assist + 450 DMG/15 = 130
5 Kill + 2 Assist + 150 DMG/15 = 130

Conclusion: DOABLE!


PS: Don't forget: You must WIN to earn money!

Thank you for this. Been using it all weekend.

[Mech79]

It is doable, but damn I have played 50 rounds. I dont have all day to sit in front of a computer. Pugging is bad enough without comms and now they have to be good enough to win. I have only got 6 matches so far. Well so much for a few more C-Bills. It would have been nice if it was like 100 points at least that was reached multiple times...lol.

[Appogee]

Mech79, on 05 October 2014 - 11:56 PM, said:

It is doable, but damn I have played 50 rounds.

Only 50?

I have played 75 rounds, my win/loss in them has been 35% despite my best efforts to guide teams to win.

Even though I personally beat 130 points many times, only 11 of those matches have counted towards the tournament score, because my team lost the other matches.

I have had teams where 8 players couldn't even manage 100 damage each, where friendlies suicided instead of fighting on, where people have failed to engage until the last few minutes in the hope of picking up easy kills, and where Lights have run around doing a point of damage to 12 targets trying to farm the kill assists instead of actually fighting and helping the team win.

This tournament has been the embodiment of frustration.

Edited by Appogee, 06 October 2014 - 12:22 AM.

[wobbles3285]

Honestly, this tournament is one of the worst designed things you have ever offered, and has pissed off a ridiculous number of players. It's a great big F-U to all but a relatively few players. Not even enjoying playing the game at all at this point in the weekend and I'm hearing alot of the same from people ranging from casual to fairly good first tier guys. If this was supposed to promote the game and get people excited about it you pretty much screwed the pooch on multiple levels. Pissed off frustrated people don't buy things...

[TamerSA]

Mech79, on 05 October 2014 - 11:56 PM, said:

It is doable, but damn I have played 50 rounds. I dont have all day to sit in front of a computer. Pugging is bad enough without comms and now they have to be good enough to win. I have only got 6 matches so far. Well so much for a few more C-Bills. It would have been nice if it was like 100 points at least that was reached multiple times...lol.

lol, I'm in the same boat... This weekend hasn't been good for me in MWO. Plus I had a match where I was owning in terms of score, and then we failed to secure the caps

I know... should probably not be playing conquest for the challenge, but meh. At least I've got 3 rounds that count so far

[Lupin]

"Players who opt in can earn 500,000 C-bills per victory when they score above 130 point. The maximum C-bills a player can earn for this event are 10,000,000."

I am sorry if this is been asked before, but when is C-bills due to appear in account?
As I run a support light for most of the weekend, which is hard to get 130 when you are spotting for team.
But I did get 130+ a few times an noticed C-bills not appearing after match, even though I opt'd in.
So should C-bills appear after match or after events ends?
Sadly I was only playing for the money, but I am listed as a MERC


Yes I agree that the level of team play when WAY down this weekend with comments like "If you kill steal from me I will kill you" and seen a few team kills during games.
Trolls out in FORCE.

[Kamies]

Appogee, on 06 October 2014 - 12:14 AM, said:

Only 50?

I have played 75 rounds, my win/loss in them has been 35% despite my best efforts to guide teams to win...

...This tournament has been the embodiment of frustration.

Only 75?

Until now I got 92 wins and 63 loses. Only 37 registered Special Award wins though (I know 20 is enough) and I just learned that the tournament isn't over like I thought and I have to play more to defend my place in top10.

You have no idea what frustration is waaahaaahaaa haa haahaa höhöhöhö.

[Kmieciu]

This "tournament" teaches us that there is no "I" in the team. You'll frequently see the top players do their best only to loose and gain nothing. Even the "mighty" Lords get stomped, write some spiteful comments then ragequit.

[Tarogato]

Out of curiousity, I took two each top and bottom players of each class and put them together to get a representative average score. In order:

2408: Clan Assault
2244: IS Light
2235: IS Assault
2206: Clan Heavy
2189: IS Medium
2182: Clan Medium
2147: IS Heavy
1992: Clan Light

Looks like IS/Clan distribution is perfectly even. IS heavies are performing surprisingly poorly. IS lights have the advantage this weekend since everybody is in their Direwhales and racking up the assists and kills is easy on all the slow targets. Strange considering only about 8% of the matchmaking population is light mechs.

[Rebel Ace Fryslan]

This tournaments brakes the meaning of teamplay. Some rlly crap teamplaying going on now.


PS: The c-bill callenge should be 20 points higher for Clans or 10 points lower for IS.

[Kivatu]

wow first place for clan lights cant even beat the points for 15th place (light clan is). guess speed is better than fire power ay

[Appogee]

Kamies, on 06 October 2014 - 01:17 AM, said:

Until now I got 92 wins and 63 loses. Only 37 registered Special Award wins though (I know 20 is enough) and I just learned that the tournament isn't over like I thought and I have to play more to defend my place in top10. You have no idea what frustration is waaahaaahaaa haa haahaa höhöhöhö.

You have a positive win/loss, which means you are dropping with competent teams most of the time. And as a result, more of your 130 point games actually earned the bonus.

Well, aren't you the lucky one, vs those of us who are expected to carry derp teams over the line, and where only 1 in 3 of our 130 point games even has a chance of winning the CBills.

Last match, a player on my team announced at the beginning "I am going to suicide now, I have to lower my Elo". And then he did.

EDIT: next match, 7 players on my team scored less than 50 damage.

That's the kind of crap the matchmaker, with it's ridiculous "3 good players and 9 bad ones equals one average team" illogic, is asking us to carry.

Edited by Appogee, 06 October 2014 - 03:06 AM.

[Lily from animove]

Tarogato, on 06 October 2014 - 01:45 AM, said:

Out of curiousity, I took two each top and bottom players of each class and put them together to get a representative average score. In order:

2408: Clan Assault
2244: IS Light
2235: IS Assault
2206: Clan Heavy
2189: IS Medium
2182: Clan Medium
2147: IS Heavy
1992: Clan Light

Looks like IS/Clan distribution is perfectly even. IS heavies are performing surprisingly poorly. IS lights have the advantage this weekend since everybody is in their Direwhales and racking up the assists and kills is easy on all the slow targets. Strange considering only about 8% of the matchmaking population is light mechs.

surprisingly poorly? its just 61 ppoints away from clan heavies, not that much. Clan assaults do definately stick out a lot as well as Clan lights stick out a lot into negative. On both these chassis is a significant gap. All the others compete quite close to each other. Especially the weight class gap between is lights and clanlights is horryfying ~250, wow. but its obvious where those come from, clanlights are undergunned or undermotorised. Too slow and only a few hardpoints for proper energyweapons. With CW and those maps that I expect being bigger than usual maps, the IS lights will have a peak of awesomeness, especially those 2 ERLL ecm raven's.

Edited by Lily from animove, 06 October 2014 - 02:46 AM.

[Appogee]

EDIT: I amended this post because as Lily pointed out, I used an incorrect calculation.

Lily from animove, on 06 October 2014 - 02:40 AM, said:

surprisingly poorly? its just 61 points away from clan heavies,

6 points per match: 90 points of damage, or an extra assist. It's not a "trivial" amount, though.

Edited by Appogee, 06 October 2014 - 04:42 AM.

[Kamies]

Appogee, on 06 October 2014 - 02:32 AM, said:

Well, aren't you the lucky one, vs those of us who are expected to carry derp teams over the line, and where only 1 in 3 of our 130 point games even has a chance of winning the CBills.

Do your math. I got 155 matches and only 37 special award victories. So every match I had only 24% chance get +130 points.

Out of 93 victories 37 were special so every victory had 39% chance which is not much away from your magical 33% chance.

Lucky me much?

[Lily from animove]

Appogee, on 06 October 2014 - 03:15 AM, said:

3 extra kills, 6 extra assists, or 915 points extra points damage. On average across 10 best matches.

It's quite a big gap, actually.

across 10 matches average, which means just 6 points per match, that is not much. let me make another lukcy match with 220 points an i already gonna have around 25 points more in my score. one more alphastrike that blows out 75damage and kills make easily another 15 points. on the big table, and this is if you see the rankings not much. I can tell you this because a single good match can boost you score about 20.

Edited by Lily from animove, 06 October 2014 - 03:25 AM.

[Alienized]

then again, fight a TBR with a QKD...
its hilarious sometimes, most of times it makes me cry.
yet Dire Whales are gud kills with it

[Budor]

Good idea to include a cbill reward but please consider lowering the needed score next time.

I am not saying that it should be free but i see lots of people having trouble achieving the minimum required points and the new players need it the most.

[Alienized]

then they have to work harder on their skills and tactical abilities.
rewards like this fasten the learning process.
good thing to me

[Appogee]

Kamies, on 06 October 2014 - 03:20 AM, said:

Do your math. I got 155 matches and only 37 special award victories. So every match I had only 24% chance get +130 points.

Now, redo your math, and this time, do it properly without the errors.

Your 40% chance of having a 130 point games is entirely different to my 33% chance of having a game where the team wins. I'm not even sure why you would try to equate two obviously different datapoints.

Based on your data, 59% of the teams you dropped with won their matches. But if you had instead experienced my 33% of teams which won, there would only have been 51 matches in which you even had the possibility of achieving a 130 point game.


Yes, quite.