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[Sovery_Simple]

Darth Futuza, on 07 October 2014 - 10:12 PM, said:

I can agree with you there, hopefully PGI won't keep the new changes if we don't have at least a 2/3rds majority, that would obviously be very unfair.

Pretty much this : /
It's one of those "why would you willingly piss off this much of your community, when you could just -not-"

[Zainadin]

Myke Pantera, on 07 October 2014 - 10:00 PM, said:

"... it might need to be designed, so that mech selection needs to be done before the map is announced.

That is what we have now. being able to choose the mech based on game type/map would be awesome.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Whoops, on 07 October 2014 - 10:10 PM, said:

Iunno, dudebro over at PGI told us mechs having true double heat sinks allowed jenners to core out atlai in a matter of seconds. All of their own statistics, of course.

and that ppl dont group so theyd be favoring solo players in the game from then on

based on same stats

[TamerSA]

Meh, I voted yes because myself and my unit (both solo and group) tend to have all game modes ticked.
For us it's about having fun and mixing up. We would rather have even matches and shorter queues than play only one match type because our mechs are specialized for it. Turns it into a competitive thing and not just for fun.

Private matches are already there for this purpose, plus I'm sure there will be larger scale e-sports type tourneys for this in future.

I also welcomed the 4x3 distribution etc. The game needs a lot of balancing to appeal to everyone. I would support any efforts to balance out ELO and skill brackets, even if it only makes small improvements at a time. I am not a pro, never will be. But I play consistently and support the game by paying for some content, so I would like to see everyone enjoy it equally.

[Darth Futuza]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 07 October 2014 - 10:10 PM, said:

so yes

No. .

[Sovery_Simple]

Lindonius, on 07 October 2014 - 10:12 PM, said:

Well if the voting continues at this pace we should have about 4000 voters in a little over 10 hours. That'd be a pretty good turnout.

A hell of a lot better than that first turnout of 1500ish that voted in the first poll, which was also NOT nearly as visible.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Darth Futuza, on 07 October 2014 - 10:12 PM, said:

I can agree with you there, hopefully PGI won't keep the new changes if we don't have at least a 2/3rds majority, that would obviously be very unfair.

Which they wont get here because even Russ admits the majority doesnt come here (ironic given the furor over them having said that a year or so ago, I get it)

[Darth Futuza]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 07 October 2014 - 10:14 PM, said:

Which they wont get here because even Russ admits the majority doesnt come here (ironic given the furor over them having said that a year or so ago, I get it)

2/3rds majority of the poll voters, not the player base.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Lindonius, on 07 October 2014 - 10:12 PM, said:

Well if the voting continues at this pace we should have about 4000 voters in a little over 10 hours. That'd be a pretty good turnout.

lol 9000+ wasnt good enough to be considered representative when the 3pv poll was put out the first time, 4k is now?

And ppl argue that the game is doing better than it used to

[L e x]

I'd rather have better Matchmaking, but lose the ability to pick a game mode.

I just don't know why the 3x4 rule also seems to have been thrown out the window along with the game mode selection.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Darth Futuza, on 07 October 2014 - 10:15 PM, said:

2/3rds majority of the poll voters, not the player base.

so 2/3rds majority of 5% of the ppl playing...

yeah representitive XD

[Darth Futuza]

Whoops, on 07 October 2014 - 10:10 PM, said:

Iunno, dudebro over at PGI told us mechs having true double heat sinks allowed jenners to core out atlai in a matter of seconds. All of their own statistics, of course.

Seems possible, since I do that with the heatsinks they have now anyway.

[Slyder]

Lindonius, on 07 October 2014 - 10:12 PM, said:

Well if the voting continues at this pace we should have about 4000 voters in a little over 10 hours. That'd be a pretty good turnout.

Either way, this poll still doesnt make sence...wether you have 10 voters or 10k.

6 or 5001 vote yes, 4 or 4999 vote no.

Why are the 5001 correct and getting to chose THEIR play style, and the 4999 are incorrect and are being forced into modes they dont like?

[Darth Futuza]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 07 October 2014 - 10:16 PM, said:

so 2/3rds majority of 5% of the ppl playing...

yeah representitive XD

That's kind of how it works...

[SVK Puskin]

I vored "NO". Russ let me ask you a question. How long are you tuning the matchmaking system? It is too damn long. And do you know what? You will never tune it to the perfection. Why? Becuase this solution sucks! Maybe once you realize that it was a mistake to go with matchmaking system instead of dedicated servers. I have experience with both solutions (i am sure you too) and for me the winner is dedicated server. You could save lot of money and effort if you would chose dedicated servers. This solution would solved lot of current issues! Never too late!

[Rufus Ingram]

Slyder, on 07 October 2014 - 09:36 PM, said:

Exactly.

How can you enforce such a MAJOR gameplay change to the game. Say, for example...that 25% of the player base actually uses and follows the forums. Then, you run this poll...and its split 55% - 45% in favor of Mode A over Mode B (just placeholders)

55% of 25% of the playert base = ~14% of the TOTAL player base get to decide for the other 86% of the player base what is best for the game?

Sure, more people SHOULD use forums...but it isnt the case in ANY GAME IN HISTROY...Something like this topic should NOT be decided on a simple forum poll...

Sadly, this is how US elections happen too, so if you think it's bad for a video game, think of the government

Also, thank you all for voting! Good to see the numbers go up, even though it is closer than Bush-Gore. Though that makes PGI the Florida Supreme Court... Some analogies are more hopeful than others.

[Reno Blade]

I say YES, keep the new system!

Isn't it better to be good at everything than to always repeat the same "boring" deathmatch (for skirmish)? Do some X in between too to change the scenery!

If you are waiting for 5 minutes to find a match and then get totally screwed team skills that makes a horrible game, then thats a LOT worse than playing on conquest with two good teams matched very closely.

Rather than going back to the exclusion-type game mode matchmaker, let's improve all game modes so people don't feel like they are penelized on conquest (because of the way to play or the money outcome).

[TamerSA]

Roadbeer, on 07 October 2014 - 10:06 PM, said:

Says a lot about people voting against their own self-intrests

"Hey guys, we're thinking about this..."
Forumites, "YES, LOVE IT"
"Ok, guys we've implemented it"
Forumites "GGGGRRRRRrrrrr ARRRGGGHHHH, How could you, we don't want this!"
"But you just voted like 2 weeks ago that you.... awww fuckit"

This. If any of you EVER worked in any form of software development or support, you'd understand this frustration...
People get stupid when it comes to user requirements... The exact same people who vote for something or sometimes even come up with the idea, turn around days later and complain about whose stupid idea this was...

And since I've joined in 2012, I've seen A LOT of this on MWO...

I know PGI and IGP have not been great, to say the least. But saying that you will never please this community is an understatement. People cry about conflicting things, and when PGI somehow tries to solve unrealistic requests with a middle ground scenario, people cry some more... every little improvement in this game has been a fight against the community

[Darth Futuza]

Slyder, on 07 October 2014 - 10:16 PM, said:

Either way, this poll still doesnt make sence...wether you have 10 voters or 10k.

6 or 5001 vote yes, 4 or 4999 vote no.

Why are the 5001 correct and getting to chose THEIR play style, and the 4999 are incorrect and are being forced into modes they dont like?

Quoting Russ, "[color=#00FFFF]I think it is only fair to the community that the vote needs to come out with a strong majority again."[/color]
So...no 50% is not a STRONG MAJORITY. I'd say at least 2/3rds or 3/4ths majority would qualify as a strong majority.

[Slyder]

Reno Blade, on 07 October 2014 - 10:19 PM, said:

Isn't it better to be good at everything than to always repeat the same "boring" deathmatch (for skirmish)? Do some X in between too to change the scenery!

Maybe....but is that YOUR descision to make for ME?