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[Zainadin]

Sorry everyone everyone else is right I shouldn't drop based on the game mode.

"so far the rate I see conquest, my only type I want to play. so far I am dropping 6 for the 1 I want.
Edited by Zainadin, Today, 09:00 PM."

You're right the point is to have fun and I wasn't took a big breath and I'm doing better now.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Madcap72, on 07 October 2014 - 09:52 PM, said:

So, when you say customer base are you speaking of all players registerd, or only paying customers?

So you dont want non playing customers to come back I take it?

Im curious Russ, are ppl who opt out of the game mode they want by DCing (alt f4) going to be reprimanded for doing that?

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 07 October 2014 - 09:55 PM.

[Alienized]

im sick of this *change it back or im done with this game* attitude.
ohmygod i have to play a mode fromt ime to time that i dont like /o\ how can they....
accept that there are more people playing than just you. this is not about you alone.
i dont want to play with total scrubs that do nothing but camp in a dire wolf yet i have to.
i have to play with total idiots that have no sense for anything in this game but suicide straight away. do i want that? nope.
and now fighting over a single game mode /o\ really....
do your own game if you seriously think that you do it better for a large community.

[Lindonius]

This is closer than the Scottish referendum!

[Lunatic_Asylum]

I prefer the new one: sometimes, when all 'Mechs on one side have capturing devices; and the other team does not, it is bit unfair to end up on a Conquest map.
There should be always a certain amount of risk involved that one of your map-mode-specific modules will not benefit your team.

Also, here are my statistics for matches played:
Assault 974
Conquest 718
Skirmish 363

And I have never favored one over another!

Edited by lunticasylum, 07 October 2014 - 09:57 PM.

[Darth Futuza]

ArchAngelT, on 07 October 2014 - 09:49 PM, said:

I only play using Assualt mechs, 100ton monsters the Atlas D DC, and the Direwolf. Because of slower speeds"the atlas has never won a race" and the BS of no engine change in the direwolf, I dont play conquest! I dont like conquest, and shouldnt have to play it. being forced into a game mode I dont want means I'm not gonna play it. I logged in today and chose assualt like always, and then I get forced to play conquest!! If thats how its gonna be I wont play the game. Atleast until its fixed.

Try defending capture points in Conquest instead of running around. You might find it more fulfilling that way.

Whoops, on 07 October 2014 - 09:49 PM, said:

Longer match times for who? Skirmish was already the apparent "majority", so it would have the QUICKEST queue times. Those who say "I just play on all types so this is great for me" already have lowest queue times out of everyone! The ONLY group that could complain are conquest-only players (we can probably assume they had the lowest pop.)

That's it. Mystery over. No queue time changes, just modes being forced on all (for the "majority")

Why do I get the sneaking suspicion everyone crying about the queue times being so long are;
A: Playing a heavy when the queue is 30%+
B: or playing an assault when the queue manages to hit 50%+
C: and are doing this on skirmish, where the heavies and assaults go to console themselves when an enemy light pack catches them alone.

Anyone?

If that were true I'd agree with you, but seeing as PGI seems to think otherwise and they're the ones with the statistics I think I'm going to go with them for now.

Edited by Darth Futuza, 07 October 2014 - 09:57 PM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

lunticasylum, on 07 October 2014 - 09:55 PM, said:

I prefer the new one: sometimes, when all 'Mechs on one side have capturing devices; and the other team does not, it is bit unfair to end up on a Conquest map.
There should be always a certain amount of risk involved that one of your modules will not benefit your team.

Also, here are my statistics for matches played:
Assault 974
Conquest 718
Skirmish 363

And I have never favored one over another!

Hmm what are mine?

Assault 275
Conquest 49
Skirmish 314

lol

[Kilo 40]

Lindonius, on 07 October 2014 - 09:55 PM, said:

This is closer than the Scottish referendum!

But most of the "scottish" in this case aren't up and around yet.

check back about 12 hours or so from now. I predict that it won't be so close after that.

[MrMadguy]

I want to play MechWarrior online, not capwarrior. Lights being almost invulnerable, maps, favoring lights and mediums - are enough disadvantages for me. I don't want them to be able to screw my matches due to having cap advantages in addition to all things, mentioned above. Will have to quit all non skirmish matches, sorry. As simple, as that. And I don't care about possible ban. I have paid for clan mechs not to have my money wasted on this crap.

Edited by MrMadguy, 07 October 2014 - 09:58 PM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Darth Futuza, on 07 October 2014 - 09:56 PM, said:

Try defending capture points in Conquest instead of running around. You might find it more fulfilling that way.

lol yeah staying on one point wins Conquest. Especially when you do it alone.

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 07 October 2014 - 09:58 PM.

[Myke Pantera]

Hi folks, given how many players seem to have a problem with this voting system, i suggest disabling it for now, BUT reenable it along with a feature to take 4 mechs of the same class into the battle, and once you know which Map and GameMode it will be you can select one of those. Maybe you can reuse some Dropshipmode code for this?!

This would:

• Allow Assault pilots to bring something quicker to the field if it's Conquest instead of Skirmish/Assault
  
• Allow Locust pilots (like myself) to pick something else in case it's not Conquest mode
  
• Adds something to the metagame. Who is better at preparing for different circumstances?
  
• Will reduce the hate against Alpine or Terra Therma, because people can bring something appropriate

If this was implemented and it turns out that the possibility to bring specialized mechs for certain maps will cause spamming issues (Like Gaussfest for Alpine, or LRMfest for Caustic), it might need to be designed, so that mech selection needs to be done before the map is announced.

[MoonUnitBeta]

Long term, I think the development of the game depends on voting for game modes. We have the ELO variety to support picking and choosing in current times. But next year? Two years from now? We will need voting eventually. Even if the difference is negligible now, it'll have a big difference in the future as player numbers dwindle.

It'll be best to keep it, and settle on it as the standard way for games, so as not to upset the future and smaller player base in the future when it'll become a requirement to change to voting.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 07 October 2014 - 10:02 PM.

[Lindonius]

MrMadguy, on 07 October 2014 - 09:57 PM, said:

I want to play MechWarrior online, not capwarrior. Lights being almost invulnerable, maps, favoring lights and mediums - are enough disadvantages for me. I don't want them to be able to screw my matches due to having cap advantages in addition to all things, mentioned above. Will have to quit all non skirmish matches, sorry. As simple, as that. And I don't care about possible ban. I have paid for clan mechs not to have my money wasted on this crap.

So how come the number of people playing light mechs these days is so low then?

[MadLibrarian]

I think the lesson learned from this will be to poll first and patch the client later.

[Darth Futuza]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 07 October 2014 - 09:58 PM, said:

lol yeah staying on one point wins Conquest. Especially when you do it alone.

You keep putting words in my mouth, it is starting to irritate me. Obviously that is not what I meant. In fact you don't even have to stand on a capture point to defend it (though this might be strategically viable), you just have to have a visible line of fire to it, preferably with a medium to help you in case of light harassment. For more information and (mostly) good advice on Conquest see this: http://mwomercs.com/.../modes/conquest

[Slyder]

I think the fundamental problem affecting the "yes" crowd, is that as a "no", that does not mean i am NOT in favor of more even matches. And that will be there to be found in CW I am sure.

I would love it if games were more 12-9, 12-7, instead of usually 12-0 or 12-2. Not that I dont like winning...buts its always more fun when its a challenge and a close nail biting match.

BUT...I shouldnt be FORCED as a paying player (or free for that matter) into playing a mode I DONT WANT. Look at other games with PvP....

Call of Duty lets you either queue for random maps, or specific game modes.

WoW lets you play arena, CTF, Arathi...there are choices.

FFS, Jedi Knight 2....LETS YOU PICK GAME MODES.

No player should be FORCED to play a mode they dont want too. If your on the other side of the fence, and want to play all types...PLEASE, do so...but you have no right to FORCE others to play the modes you want them too.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

360 users reading the topic

10k ppl signed up for the tournament (not counting the ppl that didnt ofc)

Nice representative ratio

[Sovery_Simple]

Aliisa White, on 07 October 2014 - 09:54 PM, said:

im sick of this *change it back or im done with this game* attitude.
ohmygod i have to play a mode fromt ime to time that i dont like /o\ how can they....
accept that there are more people playing than just you. this is not about you alone.
i dont want to play with total scrubs that do nothing but camp in a dire wolf yet i have to.
i have to play with total idiots that have no sense for anything in this game but suicide straight away. do i want that? nope.
and now fighting over a single game mode /o\ really....
do your own game if you seriously think that you do it better for a large community.

See, the rest of us realize, we're going to be stuck with that team of camping dire wolves one damned way or another, but we'll at least get to play on the game mode we want when it happens. The other half think this is going to magically make them good at the game because another mouth breather will be placed on the enemy team so they don't have that "scary prospect" of having to face someone better than them.
You know, losing sucks and all that jazz.

[Darth Futuza]

MadLibrarian, on 07 October 2014 - 10:02 PM, said:

I think the lesson learned from this will be to poll first and patch the client later.

They did though, they are re-polling since there's been such a negative reaction.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Slyder, on 07 October 2014 - 10:03 PM, said:

I think the fundamental problem affecting the "yes" crowd, is that as a "no", that does not mean i am NOT in favor of more even matches.

Thats the fundamental issue with why the original question was directed in such a way to get the outcome they wanted (to change things) rather than get a real answer.