114 replies to this topic

[ColonelMetus]

so it turns out, that after losing my side torso on a dire wolf, i can no longer fire 3 ERML, it shuts down on the 3rd volley.

such fun game design, no one likes shooting their weapons anyway

[Lefty Lucy]

Considering CERML are nearly as effective as ISLL I'd say that's really good firepower for only having half your mech left.

[Ultimax]

Lefty Lucy, on 08 October 2014 - 06:35 PM, said:

Considering CERML are nearly as effective as ISLL I'd say that's really good firepower for only having half your mech left.

What properly built assault mech shuts down after firing 2 LLs 3x?


If we're going to push to where Clan energy weapons are so weak after losing a ST the only thing it does is encourage more dakka boats and more gauss.

Edited by Ultimatum X, 08 October 2014 - 06:39 PM.

[kilgor]

Yes, but at least you're still alive. When an IS 'Mech with XL loses a side torso, they die.

[FupDup]

I think a fair thing to do would be to increase the XL side torso penalties,BUT also retract or at least reduce many of the Clan energy weapon nerfs at the same time.

Or if not fully retract the weapon heat nerfs, perhaps reduce damage a bit to compensate for lower heat. I.e. ERML down to 6 damage and 5 heat, ERLL down to 10 damage and 9-9.5 heat, etc. And no matter what, the Clan SPL and MPL are garbage beyond recognition, even compared to IS weapons (IS ML is easily superior to both). Throw the ERSL in there while we're at it. (Yes, the IS also has very weak MPL, SPL, and SL, and those should also be fixed).

[Golden Vulf]

How fast are you firing off those Laser volleys? even with just your remaining engine heatsinks, you should have at minimum 16 heat dissipation.

[Ultimax]

kilgor, on 08 October 2014 - 06:40 PM, said:

Yes, but at least you're still alive. When an IS 'Mech with XL loses a side torso, they die.

At least you have a choice to take a different engine.

It works both ways dude.



STD engine on DWF would be superior right now, I would take that in an instant.

[Diss]

You would take a STD over clan XL?

I sure wouldnt like to lose 2/3 of my firepower for this slight ST nerf.

Im calling BS!

[kilgor]

Sure IS can take standard engines, but they also have to take the heavier weapons with shorter ranges.
With the side torso loss, just switch to chain fire.

Edited by kilgor, 08 October 2014 - 06:55 PM.

[Lord de Seis]

Nope, nope and nope. Clan tech is still superior easily, if I lose my side torso in a IS mech I am dead, you get to shoot 3 volly's of medium lasers.

[Monkey Lover]

Think is bad now just wait for all the IS buffs. I already feel clan are not worth owning.

Lord de Seis, on 08 October 2014 - 06:55 PM, said:

Nope, nope and nope. Clan tech is still superior easily, if I lose my side torso in a IS mech I am dead, you get to shoot 3 volly's of medium lasers.

How many assault mechs are running xl engines?

[Lord de Seis]

Monkey Lover, on 08 October 2014 - 06:57 PM, said:

Think is bad now just wait for all the IS buffs. I already feel clan are not worth owning.

How many assault mechs are running xl engines?

Probably not many, but must be nice for clan mechs to run them. Wish I could run all my IS builds in XL's and keep fighting without a side torso!

[ColonelMetus]

innersphere assault mech with standard engine and auto cannon spam is the best mech in the game

[Johnny Z]

Monkey Lover, on 08 October 2014 - 06:57 PM, said:

Think is bad now just wait for all the IS buffs. I already feel clan are not worth owning.



How many assault mechs are running xl engines?

Yep IS getting some love. Then we get to see if the Clan Mech owners wanted those clan mechs because they actually like them or if they are pay to winners. Either way I expect the whine of the clans to be legendary after the easy mode they have had for far to long.

If i was running a clan mech I would wipe the floor with any of the current clan pilots I see running around at the moment.

All i can say is prove me wrong.

[Lefty Lucy]

Ultimatum X, on 08 October 2014 - 06:37 PM, said:

What properly built assault mech shuts down after firing 2 LLs 3x?


If we're going to push to where Clan energy weapons are so weak after losing a ST the only thing it does is encourage more dakka boats and more gauss.

Since when is a mech that's half blown-apart "properly built?"

[LordKnightFandragon]

Lefty Lucy, on 08 October 2014 - 07:08 PM, said:

Since when is a mech that's half blown-apart "properly built?"

Since the time before it was blown apart.

[Mcgral18]

FupDup, on 08 October 2014 - 06:42 PM, said:

I think a fair thing to do would be to increase the XL side torso penalties,BUT also retract or at least reduce many of the Clan energy weapon nerfs at the same time.

Or if not fully retract the weapon heat nerfs, perhaps reduce damage a bit to compensate for lower heat. I.e. ERML down to 6 damage and 5 heat, ERLL down to 10 damage and 9-9.5 heat, etc. And no matter what, the Clan SPL and MPL are garbage beyond recognition, even compared to IS weapons (IS ML is easily superior to both). Throw the ERSL in there while we're at it. (Yes, the IS also has very weak MPL, SPL, and SL, and those should also be fixed).

WubShee wouldn't mind some buffs...Wub-Man...or Man o'Wub is already feeling pretty sad, though. WubFox is just dead.

Blakes blood, a SPL nerf, of all things!

Monkey Lover, on 08 October 2014 - 06:57 PM, said:

Think is bad now just wait for all the IS buffs. I already feel clan are not worth owning.



How many assault mechs are running xl engines?

Well....

Edited by Mcgral18, 08 October 2014 - 07:11 PM.

[ColonelMetus]

clan mechs die alot easier now i noticed, i think there was a stealth nerf tot he hit boxes

[SaltBeef]

Would be nice to be able to go up or down with the Clan XL engine sizes, no one wants a standard. Can not switch ENDO -Ferro but we should be able to increase or decrease the engine size of the clan XL.

[Valore]

Just wait until losing that side torso turns that whale of yours into an actual turret.