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#1 MauttyKoray

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 08:57 PM

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Seriously, I would actually rather have both of those two sooner than any of the 3 in the assault poll and before any other mediums/lights. I'm a IS Light/Medium pilot (clan medium/heavy) and I feel like the IS Heavies need some love in chassis variety, followed by 1 more IS assault chassis that is in addition to the King Crab.

TL;DR
1. Make Black Knight AND Grasshopper.

2. Make Zeus OR Cyclops.

3. Release King Crab/Clan Wave 2 on schedule.

Edited by MauttyKoray, 13 October 2014 - 08:58 PM.


#2 CycKath

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 08:58 PM

GRASSHOPPER WINS! THREAD OVER!

#3 MauttyKoray

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 09:00 PM

View PostCycKath, on 13 October 2014 - 08:58 PM, said:

GRASSHOPPER WINS! THREAD OVER!

The vote difference was 5, FIVE, votes. As far as I'm concerned they both should be added at the same time and before the Assaults in that previous poll.

It just goes to show the love for Heavy chassis and the lack of representation in the variety available. By this point in the Battletech universe there are tons of chassis and sadly due to production limitations of game development (in addition to over 1000 years of Lore development and manufacturing content) we have only a small fraction of the existing mechs.

Edited by MauttyKoray, 13 October 2014 - 09:03 PM.


#4 Mcgral18

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 09:01 PM

View PostCycKath, on 13 October 2014 - 08:58 PM, said:

GRASSHOPPER WINS! THREAD OVER!


A worse 3d?


Oh...okay...Maybe it will have better hitboxes.

#5 CycKath

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 09:02 PM

Seriously though, I don't doubt we'll have both (eventually) and the poll was just deciding what we'd get first/in the upcoming IS pack. It makes me wonder if the Assault poll would have been even closer if it was just Zeus and Cyclops without the Charger.

#6 MauttyKoray

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 09:05 PM

View PostCycKath, on 13 October 2014 - 09:02 PM, said:

Seriously though, I don't doubt we'll have both (eventually) and the poll was just deciding what we'd get first/in the upcoming IS pack. It makes me wonder if the Assault poll would have been even closer if it was just Zeus and Cyclops without the Charger.

I somehow think that the Charger votes were...I can't even joke, I think they may have been partially serious. The point of my opinion is that I'd rather see both of the heavies in this poll before any other Assaults, Mediums, or Lights; not that I'd rather see them instead of.

I do however kind of feel like Russ's [color=#00FFFF]"[/color][color=#00FFFF]Here is a follow up poll for Heavy Battlemechs - I think I know which one is going to run away with this one. Keep in mind the Grasshopper has JJ's and more varied load outs. "[/color] had something to do with the outcome from the trolls.

Edited by MauttyKoray, 13 October 2014 - 09:06 PM.


#7 CycKath

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 09:09 PM

View PostMauttyKoray, on 13 October 2014 - 09:05 PM, said:

I somehow think that the Charger votes were...I can't even joke, I think they may have been partially serious. The point of my opinion is that I'd rather see both of the heavies in this poll before any other Assaults, Mediums, or Lights; not that I'd rather see them instead of.


I voted Charger because it offered much more variety in variants with the added bonus that it be a hop skip and jump to a Hatamoto Chi too :)

Short of the Saber Reinforcement Pack though, every pack so far has been an even weight spread (light, medium, heavy, assault) and I don't think they'll change that, especially as lot of people see assaults as end-game for some reason.

#8 Whatzituyah

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 09:11 PM

I bet if they say that one of them is just first the other is planned for another time half the community wouldn't explode in fact I don't even think half voted!

#9 CycKath

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 09:14 PM

View PostWhatzituyah, on 13 October 2014 - 09:11 PM, said:

I bet if they say that one of them is just first the other is planned for another time half the community wouldn't explode in fact I don't even think half voted!


Might have to go digging to see which of the recent polls has had the highest volume of voters.

#10 Xiomburg

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 09:15 PM

There was probably an outside force screwing with the poll. It was likd they were attempting a tie. I call shenanigans on the poll.

#11 FupDup

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 09:19 PM

View PostTB Xiomburg, on 13 October 2014 - 09:15 PM, said:

There was probably an outside force screwing with the poll. It was likd they were attempting a tie. I call shenanigans on the poll.

That makes it all the more appropriate to describe it as "Alright, we'll call it a draw!"

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#12 El Bandito

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 09:39 PM

I'd rather have PGI release the BK alone than having both, even though I voted for the Grasshopper. Why spend precious development time on TWO mediocre mechs? (albeit the GHR is superior to the BK)

Give us mech choices with more viability next time, PGI.

Edited by El Bandito, 13 October 2014 - 09:47 PM.


#13 Troopwe

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 09:40 PM

View PostCycKath, on 13 October 2014 - 08:58 PM, said:

GRASSHOPPER WINS! THREAD OVER!

Darn BUG :(

#14 El Bandito

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 09:48 PM

Now that the Bad Knight have lost the poll, you can finally say "The Black Knight always triumphs!", in the right context.

Edited by El Bandito, 13 October 2014 - 09:54 PM.


#15 CycKath

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 09:51 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 13 October 2014 - 09:39 PM, said:

Give us mech choices with more viability next time, PGI.


I'd just be happy with more info about WHY these choices in these 'Mech polls, I know we can figure out and assume reasons based off time-period and variants, but hearing PGI state them, perhaps suggest what variants they are considering, early concept art if we go total dream world, would be better.

#16 El Bandito

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 09:56 PM

View PostCycKath, on 13 October 2014 - 09:51 PM, said:


I'd just be happy with more info about WHY these choices in these 'Mech polls, I know we can figure out and assume reasons based off time-period and variants, but hearing PGI state them, perhaps suggest what variants they are considering, early concept art if we go total dream world, would be better.


That's true. It is one more place where PGI should be more open with the community.

Edited by El Bandito, 13 October 2014 - 09:56 PM.


#17 EgoSlayer

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 10:18 PM

View PostMauttyKoray, on 13 October 2014 - 09:05 PM, said:

I somehow think that the Charger votes were...I can't even joke, I think they may have been partially serious. The point of my opinion is that I'd rather see both of the heavies in this poll before any other Assaults, Mediums, or Lights; not that I'd rather see them instead of.

I do however kind of feel like Russ's "Here is a follow up poll for Heavy Battlemechs - I think I know which one is going to run away with this one. Keep in mind the Grasshopper has JJ's and more varied load outs. " had something to do with the outcome from the trolls.


The base Charger variant in MWO would suck but with MWO modification rules it would have been OK, the CGR-1A5 in MWO would have worked really well, and there are a couple of JJ capable variants as well. So I don't think they were joke votes, just a larger following for the more usable iconic mechs like Zeus.

#18 CycKath

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 10:26 PM

View PostEgoSlayer, on 13 October 2014 - 10:18 PM, said:


The base Charger variant in MWO would suck but with MWO modification rules it would have been OK, the CGR-1A5 in MWO would have worked really well, and there are a couple of JJ capable variants as well. So I don't think they were joke votes, just a larger following for the more usable iconic mechs like Zeus.


Yep, everybody just kept harping on about the small lasers and that Charger needs melee to be in MWO, ignoring the fact it had much more variety than either the Zeus and Cyclops.

#19 Golden Vulf

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 10:36 PM

The Charger would be great if physical attacks were in the game. Well, maybe not great, but at least useable.

With the ridiculous endo steel upgrade and double heatsinks and xl engines, people would just turn the charger with its energy hardpoints into a dual PPC/large laser Hatomoto-Chi. Which is exactly what the Draconis Combine did to their Chargers.

Also it seems they ended the poll arbitrarily as soon as the Grasshopper pulled ahead since that's the one they've probably been working on.

The Black Knight without the Hatchet variant is a waste of space anyway, they need to get working on physical attacks. Even Transformers: Fall of Cybertron had physical attacks. Every successful multi player fps game I can remember has had physical attacks.

Doom had physical attacks!

Edited by Golden Vulf, 13 October 2014 - 10:42 PM.


#20 Tezcatli

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 10:38 PM

They'll both be added. ...Just one later then the other.

Edited by Tezcatli, 13 October 2014 - 10:38 PM.






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