People, you’re seriously, super overreacting and misinterpreting the whole think. Especially you, Krafty.
The argument isn’t “This system removes all customization ever and it sucks”, it’s “what happened to the split bonuses where ‘Mechs got some general assists and then some more weapon-specific bonuses to go on top of those?”
It’s the case where the HBK-4G now has two
completely worthless additional ballistic hardpoints because any build
not using the AC/20 is dumb beyond comprehension, whereas the case was
supposed to be that the HBK-4G could use, say, a dual AC/5 build and still gain 12.5% benefits to its choice of weapons, but not the
other 12.5% benefit it would’ve gotten for the AC/20 in specific.
I’m with Oogalook on this one. What happened to the split buffs that were supposed to help enable
everybody’s builds? Sure, the HBK-4G would still be encouraged to use the AC/20, but players were also supposed to be able to load up builds they personally enjoyed and still derive benefit from the system. With the proposed, narrowly-targeted system of buffs, most ‘Mechs are looking more as if they’re going to be even more crushingly underperforming than ever before if they don’t hew to what is, effectively, the one single build the system allows them.
Now, I get it. The TT diehards are overjoyed that there will be a system in place which, in many cases, strengthens stock builds because TT diehards hate customization and awesomeness and would be equally overjoyed if the game forced stock ‘Mechs on everyone in every game mode and the ‘Mechlab was excised from the game completely. The ultracomps don’t really care what the quirk system does because they’re cruising around in T1s or T2s as it is and figure that anyone in a T5 deserves whatever they get because they’re already too stupid to use something that wins games.
Both valid opinions from their respective viewpoints, though I still have to wonder why the TT folks are still here when every MW game to date has had a ‘MechLab. But whether or not the
battlefield sees more diversity, as people are claiming it will, the system as proposed is heavily constricting
’Mechlab diversity and effectively forcing one single, narrow build upon every (Inner Sphere) chassis in the game. If you’re an HBK-4G that liked Gauss Rifles instead of AC/20s? TOO BAD NO BUFFS FOR JOO. BUY A GRIDIRON, FOO’. You’re an HBK-4H player that liked to run large lasers in the thing’s torso energy slots over the autocannon because that’s how you rolled when you were mastering it out? TOO BAD NO BUFFS FOR JOO. THEY DON’T EVEN
MAKE YOUR ‘MECH YET, FOO’.
Admittedly, in the latter case serious buffs were unlikely as it stands, but the HBK-4H is permitted the use of
two weapon systems – AC/10s and medium lasers. Two. Those are the only two guns in the game it’s allowed to use, if it wants to try and derive any benefit from the new measures in place to try and shore it up above the junkheap tiers. Now, its AC/10 and its medium lasers may be pretty dang bawss – but that doesn’t help you a single bloody bit.
Yes yes, I get it, Krafty.
“If what you had before was [X] number of T4 builds, and what you have now is [X] number of T4 builds + 1 T3 build…HOW ARE YOU LOSING?”
Technically, of course, I’m not – but all those T4 builds are, in fact, effectively losing power because
the entire game is getting a hefty power boost with these new quirks. Your T4 build’s position relative to the rest of the game is objectively worse, and for a lot of folks it’s a really bitter pill to swallow, especially when they were expecting split buffs that let off a little bit of the pressure. You and I both know, Krafty, that a large enough incentive towards a particular behavior is exactly the same thing as a hefty
punishment levied against all other behaviors.
So, what are you losing if you started with [X] T4 builds and ended with [X] T4 builds and 1x T3 build? The knowledge that your particular T4 build was, despite still being a T4 build, one of the best fits you could put on the chassis. Your large laser-equipped HBK-4H is now
objectively worse than a stock-armament-ONLY HBK-4H, not just subjectively worse for people who like autocannons.
Diversity on the battlefield is improved, but only at the cost of diversity in the ‘MechLab, which has been heavily impacted by the proposed narrow-field quirks system. Some of us prefer MechLab diversity to battlefield diversity, and wish to preserve the freedom to equip whatever we like on our ‘Mechs
and not be castigated for playing something other than the one viable post-quirks build for that chassis.
A split buff, delivering half its effect to a specific weapon and the other half to a general family of weapons, would at least take the sting out of being told that what we like to run is bad and crap and should never see the light of day.
Edited by 1453 R, 17 October 2014 - 09:47 AM.
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Mercules, on 17 October 2014 - 07:10 AM, said:
