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[Sarlic]

I am really looking forward to the new reward system

[627]

Fastest AH is only AC20 + 3x SRM2

CN9-AH

[Mister Blastman]

Hmm... Faster jump jets... HGN 732/733C are patiently optimistic.

[Mcgral18]

Shadow Magnet, on 21 October 2014 - 09:54 AM, said:

What was the previous heat scale for PPCs when it now got changed to 7.0?

kapusta11, on 21 October 2014 - 10:01 AM, said:

I thought it was 12 for PPC and 19 for ERPPC, hm...

It was 4.5 in the past, now equal to the normal PPC.

http://mwomercs.com/...cale-the-maths/

Pasting tables doesn't work so well.

[stjobe]

Cavale, on 21 October 2014 - 09:58 AM, said:

I pilot Lights, Sir. Bug Squad.

It was more a mention because 'Mechs like the Summoner are staying the same, but the JJ assaults are getting a buff. Seems bad.

Mea Culpa, fellow Speedfreak, I stand corrected.

My point remains though; people do not need any kind of encouragement for dropping in heavies or assaults - quite the contrary, they might need some disincentives.

Or at least some incentives to drive lights and mediums - which we just might have gotten via Rewards 2.0. We'll see.

[Mcgral18]

Mister Blastman, on 21 October 2014 - 10:06 AM, said:

Hmm... Faster jump jets... HGN 732/733C are patiently optimistic.

They had half the thrust values of the others, so I'm not expecting much.

But I guess optimism is important too.

[Belorion]

Nice patch

[kapusta11]

Mcgral18, on 21 October 2014 - 10:08 AM, said:

It was 4.5 in the past, now equal to the normal PPC.

http://mwomercs.com/...cale-the-maths/

Pasting tables doesn't work so well.

Well if you look at smurfy, it's not updated yet, it was 7 for both PPC and ERPPC anyways. 15*0.18*7 = 18.9 that was the penalty for firing 3 ERPPCs at once.

Edited by kapusta11, 21 October 2014 - 10:18 AM.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Reward system is great.

Now if they'd just add modes and maps that can really take advantage of them, that would make me really interested. As it stands it's just a different way to reward us for doing the exact same thing.

They need to create situations where scouting and information gathering is more important.

[Alek Ituin]

Monkey Lover, on 21 October 2014 - 09:57 AM, said:

smurfy has it list as 10. http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/equipment

Bout f**kin time.

Might make PPC's less useless for anything other than snipers.

Never mind, the entire PPC family is still worthless.

Edited by Alek Ituin, 21 October 2014 - 10:24 AM.

[Joe Mallad]

Well damn! I was hoping for a laser eye on the Atlas.

[Joseph Mallan]

stjobe, on 21 October 2014 - 10:09 AM, said:

Mea Culpa, fellow Speedfreak, I stand corrected.

My point remains though; people do not need any kind of encouragement for dropping in heavies or assaults - quite the contrary, they might need some disincentives.

Or at least some incentives to drive lights and mediums - which we just might have gotten via Rewards 2.0. We'll see.

AH.... is Incentive for me!

[Widowmaker1981]

No one noticing the 'heat scale now applies to LRM5s' ? that's going to break a loooot of builds (LRM5 goes from being the best addition to large launchers once you have 2, to being the worst (you should only use it if you only mount LRM 5s)

Not crying about it, though, just pointing it out.

[stjobe]

Joseph Mallan, on 21 October 2014 - 10:23 AM, said:

AH.... is Incentive for me!

Thought you'd be more incentivized by the -S, Joe? What with being a big old bus driver and all?

[Alek Ituin]

Widowmaker1981, on 21 October 2014 - 10:24 AM, said:

No one noticing the 'heat scale now applies to LRM5s' ? that's going to break a loooot of builds (LRM5 goes from being the best addition to large launchers once you have 2, to being the worst (you should only use it if you only mount LRM 5s)

Not crying about it, though, just pointing it out.

It'll stop LRM-5 spam boats so it's a win in my book. You know, the ones that launch a constant stream of LRM fire and shake your screen to the point of uselessness.

At least when you got hammered by an AC/2 boat, it was probably your fault for getting in front of it.

Edited by Alek Ituin, 21 October 2014 - 10:27 AM.

[Spheroid]

I am not understanding the brawler bonus. Brawler lights do exist. Is this to boost mediums up to the level of Embers in terms of earnings?

I might get some flanking bonuses in my Jenner but I do a lot of head on fighting as well.

[Widowmaker1981]

Alek Ituin, on 21 October 2014 - 10:27 AM, said:

It'll stop LRM-5 spam boats so it's a win in my book. You know, the ones that launch a constant stream of LRM fire and shake your screen tot he point of uselessness.

At least when you got hammered by an AC/2 boat, it was probably your fault for getting in front of it.

actually, it will do nothing whatsoever to those, since they chainfire which avoids ghost heat.... somewhat ironically that will now be pretty much the only viable use for LRM5s left lol.

what it stops is mechs like battlemasters and stalkers from mounting 2 large launchers, and then filling the rest of their ports with 5's to increase the size of the one off missile alpha, without adding ghost heat.

Edited by Widowmaker1981, 21 October 2014 - 10:36 AM.

[Deathlike]

Monkey Lover, on 21 October 2014 - 09:54 AM, said:

ah.... i kind of liked the therma broke bridge

Brokeback Therma?

[Alek Ituin]

Widowmaker1981, on 21 October 2014 - 10:29 AM, said:

actually, it will do nothing whatsoever to those, since they chainfire which avoids ghost heat....

what it stops is mechs like battlemasters and stalkers from mounting 2 large launchers, and then filling the rest of their ports with 5's to increase the size of the one off missile alpha, without adding ghost heat.

Last I checked it would, because GH still takes effect when you chain fire at too short a delay.

Fixing both LRM-5 boats, and whatever you want to call the other boats, is still a win in my book. Might promote more open combat and less "hide behind rocks because holy s**t there's so many LRM's".

[Mcgral18]

Spheroid, on 21 October 2014 - 10:27 AM, said:

I am not understanding the brawler bonus. Brawler lights do exist. Is this to boost mediums up to the level of Embers in terms of earnings?

I might get some flanking bonuses in my Jenner but I do a lot of head on fighting as well.

Apparently the WubShee isn't a Brawler either....

I guess it takes more than a 200M optimal range. Apparently you need to be under 80 tons, but over 35.