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[xXBagheeraXx]

Yoseful Mallad, on 04 December 2014 - 10:15 AM, said:

or as i posted in other threads... some "Clan" units are making their members get rid of IS mechs and equipment to make room for Clan stuff. I know this because i have a few guys that have recently joined my merc unit that were once in Clan units and this is what their units are making their members do to be in those units lol.

Kind of ******** bullcrap is that?

Fk you im not sellin my fatlases! lol. Whatever clan unit that is, they are a joke.

[Mothykins]

Joseph Mallan, on 04 December 2014 - 10:38 AM, said:

I did a 6 month stretch playing 6-8 hours a night when the Law was in game every night. 116 Hours is nothing at 6 hours a night. its 19 days.
or 29 days to get it done at 4 hours a night. You guys are being silly. That is not a lot of time. Take it from an old man 116 hours is an eye blink!

Unlike an old man, I need to work my ass off to pay for my life. I don't have a cushy job that pays well, nor do I have someone to take care of my household chores.

I work for a living sir. I don't have those hours. 2 a night. Tops. Not everyone lives in this mystical world where they don't have to work, or make their own food, or clean their own house, or go shopping for said food.

[Sable]

ehh if you stop buying mechs the cbills stack up nicely over time. I haven't bought a mech outside a mechpack for a long time now and i have 200 million that just stacked up over time. And yes i have plenty of spare omnipods and modules and the like.

[Joseph Mallan]

Lefty Lucy, on 04 December 2014 - 10:46 AM, said:

Nah, all of the TROs are filled with mechs that make very bad design choices for fluff and variety, with only a few mechs that are actually built well. Doesn't matter what era. The early IS omnis are especially guilty of this.

Out of every Mech in TT there are 5 I don't have to fix. But Doubles and Endo become pretty common place in the future TROs

[WarHippy]

Jacob Side, on 04 December 2014 - 08:47 AM, said:

As others have told you in other threads the economy is not brutal. You're a whiney entitlement whiner. (yeah that's the best I got)

87 million C-bills in a month is a good haul. Just stop with the crying bro

As people have told you and your compatriots in other threads about this "opinions will vary". Perhaps instead of being and condescending ***** by labeling someone else's opinion as whiney entitlement you give your reasons for feeling different and leave it at that. You feel me bro?

[The Boz]

Agent 0 Fortune, on 04 December 2014 - 09:06 AM, said:

I think that was a mistake, what could you possibly "need" 45 million worth of modules right now? I can't imagine you need to so badly that you will discard chassis that you may actually want in the future. I hate to say it but this is the mindset that fuels the payday loan business model.

I have put off buying any more weapon modules until the whole quirk thing shakes out.

A CW drop deck needs* Seismic Derp on all four mechs.
* - Without it, you are at a significant disadvantage against people who have it. This disadvantage is not compensated for in any way by any other loadout options, it is flat out better to have than to not have. Since the matches will not take into account the "metaness" of a mech before setting it up against other mechs, it remains a strictly out-of-match point of unbalance. IE tax. Ditto for IS Endo and DHS.

[Joseph Mallan]

Cavale, on 04 December 2014 - 10:57 AM, said:

Unlike an old man, I need to work my ass off to pay for my life. I don't have a cushy job that pays well, nor do I have someone to take care of my household chores.

I work for a living sir. I don't have those hours. 2 a night. Tops. Not everyone lives in this mystical world where they don't have to work, or make their own food, or clean their own house, or go shopping for said food.

LOL I work 40-70 hours a week, a wife, an autistic son. Both of which I love dearly, yet I found time to play lots. If you take care of your House you only needs minutes a day and few hours once a week to keep it Home and Garden worthy.

[Barkem Squirrel]

Lets see you need 4 mechs at various prices and with various upgrades. So maybe 10 million C-bills each for 40 million C-bills.

Now the modules.

Mech modules lets say two at 6,000,000 each for 12 million per mech or 48 million for the four mechs.

Weapon modules lets say two at 3,000,000 each for 6 million per mech and 24 million for the four mechs.

Consumable modules are 40,000 each for 80,000 per mech and 320,000 for the four mechs.

72,520,000 for equipping the average mech. There may be some with an extra mech or weapons module, but that would be at most 36,000,000 Cbills more for four mechs with 3 mech and 3 weapon module slots.

Worst case is over 108,000,000 C-bills for the modules.

Using 100,000 C-bills pergame that is only 1080 games or a few months of game play.

To some people this is a new realization OMG I have to get modules. Some of use have been plugging away for months just to purchase module slots. Others, well they had a few hundred million C-bills tucked away.


These are end game content and at some point you may have every mech fitted out with these, an XL engine and ready to go at a moments notice.

The hard part is the GXP that has to be earned to unlock the modules.

Edited by Barkem Squirrel, 04 December 2014 - 11:05 AM.

[Popper100]

Well this thread was fun to read. Good to know that some people think this game should be a full time job even with a minimum of 15 dollars to gain the highest income boost for one day in the lightest mech. Never mind that the free to play model has been about paying for how fast you want to go. This is like paying for a Ferrari to go 15 Mph, up from 10 Mph. It is just a bad economy at the moment that needs about 20% more base rewards. This should level off around the actual 100k/match mark and make the average 180k/match for full payers, which would result in roughly 108 million predicted average for the time Viktor put in and 96million realistic average. This would allow a budget of 32 million per mech in a mastery of a chassis, of which you could realistically reuse 10 million.

Of course, these are full pay numbers, free players would likely just see an increase of around 2 million each week, which is respectable.

Also, thank you Viktor for taking the time to plot an average over the course of a month, gives a lot of data to work with.

Edit: Derp math fixied. Was using faulty units.

Edited by Popper100, 04 December 2014 - 11:23 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

WarHippy, on 04 December 2014 - 11:00 AM, said:

As people have told you and your compatriots in other threads about this "opinions will vary". Perhaps instead of being and condescending ***** by labeling someone else's opinion as whiney entitlement you give your reasons for feeling different and leave it at that. You feel me bro?

I do... and feel free to remind me too!

[WarHippy]

Joseph Mallan, on 04 December 2014 - 11:04 AM, said:

I do... and feel free to remind me too!

That post of Jacob's just made me grumpy. It is fine to disagree and to get a little heated when you are heavily opposed to something, but this constant use of hand waving and character assassination is pathetic.

[ImperialKnight]

The MWO free to play model caters to people with money or time or both. But NOT neither. I'm sorry but people with neither are not the target demographic of PGI. And they are very unlikely to listen to you.

[Joseph Mallan]

WarHippy, on 04 December 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

That post of Jacob's just made me grumpy. It is fine to disagree and to get a little heated when you are heavily opposed to something, but this constant use of hand waving and character assassination is pathetic.

Which is why I look to my friends to keep me Honest War!

[C E Dwyer]

Two matches over 500,000 credits with a myst lynx..whats your problem..

[Jacob Side]

WarHippy, on 04 December 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

That post of Jacob's just made me grumpy. It is fine to disagree and to get a little heated when you are heavily opposed to something, but this constant use of hand waving and character assassination is pathetic.

And Victor's hit my button for flip the F out. Constant crying that pixels in a game are to expensive and take to much play time to get are things that cause me to lose it.

Play the game and have fun.

To have fun is why we play isn't it?

Edited by Jacob Side, 04 December 2014 - 11:24 AM.

[Khorn1]

Economy in mwo are ridiculous and have nothing common with logic.Zoom mod(simple thing, which must be a standart equipment on mech, its obvious) costs 2000 000, but locust cost almost same.Are here any logic???Device which gives poooor zooming and whole mech are costs same.Its absolutely stupid and non sense.Economy must be rebalance to agree with logic.But i doubt .Because "someone" dont care about this, only thing that is worry "them", its making money from fans of mw universe, and sh*t on everything else.From beginig and for now game have no balance in everything, especially in economy.

[Mothykins]

Joseph Mallan, on 04 December 2014 - 11:03 AM, said:

LOL I work 40-70 hours a week, a wife, an autistic son. Both of which I love dearly, yet I found time to play lots. If you take care of your House you only needs minutes a day and few hours once a week to keep it Home and Garden worthy.

Our lives are not equal; I'm confident you don't live in a house that happens to be over 100 years old that's beginning to show its age after being neglected for a few decades, and I'm certain that you're not living with a drunkard, or barely making bills. Your flippant attitude and assumptions of what I should have for free time are really shallow, and every time I see a post by you in regards to this, it cements that you're a rather arrogant fellow. Your life is not the global average, nor is it the reality of every other human on the planet, and your assumption that everyone has the luxuries you do is pretty stupid.

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Also, your math is pretty bad. If you're working 70 hour weeks, and playing six hours a day, you do realize you're leaving, like, 4 hours to sleep, yes? I highly doubt this.


As well, my condolences to your wife. It really sucks that you don't seem to realize exactly how much work goes into keeping a place in good shape and clean, which leads me to believe that she does all the work. It must really suck to not be appreciated for the hours of work she puts into that.

Edited by Cavale, 04 December 2014 - 11:33 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Khorn1, on 04 December 2014 - 11:24 AM, said:

Economy in mwo are ridiculous and have nothing common with logic.Zoom mod(simple thing, which must be a standart equipment on mech, its obvious) costs 2000 000, but locust cost almost same.Are here any logic???Device which gives poooor zooming and whole mech are costs same.Its absolutely stupid and non sense.Economy must be rebalance to agree with logic.But i doubt .Because "someone" dont care about this, only thing that is worry "them", its making money from fans of mw universe, and sh*t on everything else.From beginig and for now game have no balance in everything, especially in economy.

Some of what I can do with Zoom is pretty scary Khorn, and what I cannot do in a Locust is equally scary at the other end of the scale!

[Popper100]

Jacob Side, on 04 December 2014 - 11:23 AM, said:

And Victor's hit my button for flip the F out. Constant crying that pixels in a game are to expensive and take to much play time to get are things that cause me to lose it.

Play the game and have fun.

To have fun is why we play isn't it?

Actually, some people like to compete, and begrudge a system when they feel that unless they had an inordinate amount of time put into a thing, they are always at a disadvantage. And considering this is a competitive with stat tracking, it does no good to have a system in place where the competitors are always mismatched by incomparable values because one does not have access to said values for lack of time.

In short, people who have fun by competing in a fair event aren't having fun because they can't make the event fair.

[Sandpit]

Joseph Mallan, on 04 December 2014 - 10:12 AM, said:

After (Black)Market Products. Ever try to buy something the government deemed illegal?

I have not even bought Dep or Seismic. Don't need em to kill others and not afraid to let other try to kill me first. So not Needed. Maybe strongly advised, but not needed!

I've never bought either

Hell I've never bought any modules except adv zoom

I guess i missed the memo where they were required