124 replies to this topic

[Adiuvo]

Mercules, on 08 December 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

Not if you are talking as accurate as Streaks. Anyone can spray 2 different sections of a mech with a Medium Laser by aiming as much as you do with a Streak... and most do.

How is that relevant?

TexAss, on 08 December 2014 - 03:24 PM, said:

The thing is, times have changed.

A streakcat with current streaks compared to clans is what?

Utter garbage.

A streakcat with streaks from before the nerf is compared to clans what?

still utter garbage.

Streaks are useless on IS, even when fighting IS vs IS they are useless at the moment.

That's a symptom of clan powercreep, and precisely why it's not a good thing.

[Escef]

I recall chasing a Raven 3L in my Commando 2D. My ML arm had been shot off, and I'd swapped my ECM into canceling mode because my remaining weapons were 3xSSRM2. And you know what took me at least 45 seconds to do while I was chasing him? Resolve a Streak lock.

If Streaks are "no skill" weapons than it is because light pilots are not using evasive maneuvers and are simply relying on speed to avoid getting hit. A better argument for what might be a "no skill" weapon is the short duration, point-and-click of pulse lasers. But that's what the meta-tryhards use, so it must be the most skill intensive weapon right now, right?

Dumbasses need to get over yourselves.

[ZippySpeedMonkey]

No...

They're fine....

There are other things that need adjustment first...

[Monkey Lover]

ZippySpeedMonkey, on 08 December 2014 - 04:21 PM, said:

No...

They're fine....

There are other things that need adjustment first...

Only thing worse the Is Streaks is the Flamer.

[Adiuvo]

Escef, on 08 December 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

I recall chasing a Raven 3L in my Commando 2D. My ML arm had been shot off, and I'd swapped my ECM into canceling mode because my remaining weapons were 3xSSRM2. And you know what took me at least 45 seconds to do while I was chasing him? Resolve a Streak lock.

If Streaks are "no skill" weapons than it is because light pilots are not using evasive maneuvers and are simply relying on speed to avoid getting hit. A better argument for what might be a "no skill" weapon is the short duration, point-and-click of pulse lasers. But that's what the meta-tryhards use, so it must be the most skill intensive weapon right now, right?

Dumbasses need to get over yourselves.

If you can't get a streak lock for 45 seconds you suck at aiming lol.

[Escef]

Adiuvo, on 08 December 2014 - 04:29 PM, said:

If you can't get a streak lock for 45 seconds you suck at aiming lol.

If you believe that than perhaps you should try chasing a Raven through the hilly terrain in Forest colony. Dude was constantly breaking LOS.

So, yeah, maybe you should "lol" at yourself for being an ignorant moron?

[Roland]

Monkey Lover, on 08 December 2014 - 02:03 PM, said:

Really no skill? How is holding your mouse over a mech for a lock not the same as holding your mouse over a mech and pressing fire?

Do you not understand how missile lock works in this game?

In order to achieve a missile lock, you merely need to hold the reticle in the general vicinity of a mech, inside the red box. And one you do that, it's even easier to hold it.

Anyone who thinks achieving a missile lock with streaks requires skill doesn't really grasp what skill is.

Edited by Roland, 08 December 2014 - 04:47 PM.

[Don Ino]

Escef, on 08 December 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

I recall chasing a Raven 3L in my Commando 2D. My ML arm had been shot off, and I'd swapped my ECM into canceling mode because my remaining weapons were 3xSSRM2. And you know what took me at least 45 seconds to do while I was chasing him? Resolve a Streak lock.

If Streaks are "no skill" weapons than it is because light pilots are not using evasive maneuvers and are simply relying on speed to avoid getting hit. A better argument for what might be a "no skill" weapon is the short duration, point-and-click of pulse lasers. But that's what the meta-tryhards use, so it must be the most skill intensive weapon right now, right?

Dumbasses need to get over yourselves.

45 seconds to get a streak lock AND you are countering ECM? Man you must really suck at MWO. You think streaks require a single iota of skill to use? You probably should never play another FPS ever in your life.

And lasers, which actually require you to put your crosshair on a SPECIFIC component to do significant damage really require no skill? Whereas your precious streaks that give you automatic damagez everytiem u mouse 1 on random components omg plzzz moar logic. Maybe if you used real weapons you would know more about how good you ACTUALLY are at MWO. Instead of spamming away mouse 1 whilst desperately trying to keep your crosshair in that little red box for a few times a minute ( I KNOW ITS SO HARD ISNT IT). get real

[Escef]

Roland, on 08 December 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

Anyone who thinks achieving a missile lock with streaks requires skill doesn't really grasp what skill is.

Go chase a light through terrain with a lot of cover and get back to me.

Don Ino, on 08 December 2014 - 04:43 PM, said:

45 seconds to get a streak lock AND you are countering ECM? Man you must really suck at MWO

Ok, sure, why not? Go chase a light though terrain with a lot of cover. Go. NOW. Get back to me. Ignorant fool.

EDIT: While we're on the subject, Don, my favorite mech is a laser-boat Battlemaster. Tell me more about my "precious streaks", no really. Please. You seem to know me so damn well... Oh, wait, no, you don't. Get over yourself.

Edited by Escef, 08 December 2014 - 04:48 PM.

[Don Ino]

Escef, on 08 December 2014 - 04:44 PM, said:

Go chase a light through terrain with a lot of cover and get back to me.

Did it. Wasn't hard. Try doing the same with real weapons that do pinpoint damage. You probably still can't. Which is why there are streaks in the first place. For low tier, low skill, low competence pilots like you.

Weapons that don't require aiming are so people who can't aim can have fun too.

Edited by Don Ino, 08 December 2014 - 04:49 PM.

[Roland]

Yeah, getting streaks to lock onto a light mech is pretty trivial... Even when you yourself are driving a light mech and bobbing around yourself.

If you can't get a lock with streaks, or think it is hard, that means you are bad.

[Escef]

Don Ino, on 08 December 2014 - 04:46 PM, said:

Did it. Wasn't hard. Try doing the same with real weapons that do pinpoint damage. You probably still can't. Which is why there are streaks in the first place. For low tier, low skill, low competence pilots like you.

Roland, on 08 December 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

Yeah, getting streaks to lock onto a light mech is pretty trivial... Even when you yourself are driving a light mech and bobbing around yourself.

If you can't get a lock with streaks, or think it is hard, that means you are bad.

Well, I suppose at whatever low ELO you guys see light mechs at that don't dodge, move in straight lines, etc., it must be painfully easy.

[Roland]

Yeah, i hear aduvio plays in the elo basement.

[Don Ino]

My 5.5 overall win/loss says otherwise. K thanks bai

[Escef]

Roland, on 08 December 2014 - 04:51 PM, said:

Yeah, i hear aduvio plays in the elo basement.

He must if he thinks it's so damn easy to get a streak lock on a cagey light pilot in bad terrain.

[Bigbacon]

biggest issue with IS SSRM2 is that they usually just hit the outer most sections and justs never hit anything worth while.

[Escef]

Don Ino, on 08 December 2014 - 04:52 PM, said:

My 5.5 overall win/loss says otherwise. K thanks bai

Yes, yes, yes, and you have a three-thousand inch manhood that makes women erupt in pleasure the moment they lay eyes upon it.

[Dragomir Zelenka]

Now, now guys, I'm sure you're all pretty princesses.

I've no doubt there's at least one time in the history of the world where e-peen measuring turned out to be useful to a discussion, but it certainly isn't this time.

[Don Ino]

Escef, on 08 December 2014 - 04:53 PM, said:

Yes, yes, yes, and you have a three-thousand inch manhood that makes women erupt in pleasure the moment they lay eyes upon it.

How did you know?

Escef, people like you are why these forums are a joke. If you seriously think it requires skillful play to get a lock on a light on any map, then your point is moot.

[Escef]

Dragomir Zelenka, on 08 December 2014 - 04:54 PM, said:

Now, now guys, I'm sure you're all pretty princesses.

I've no doubt there's at least one time in the history of the world where e-peen measuring turned out to be useful to a discussion, but it certainly isn't this time.

Well, we got two guys trying to say I'm horrible because... I don't rely on Streaks? Because they are no where near as reliable as they claim they are? Yet they are the one's claiming they need buffs?

These guys make no damn sense. The weapon is really easy to use and needs to be made more powerful? Wah? I don't get it.