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[Reitrix]

Escef, on 14 December 2014 - 05:06 AM, said:

I think the Dire Wolf has done a lot to get people used to such slow mechs. In the past, I've gotten left behind while in 325 engines Atlases. 325 engine in a KGC? No one leaves me behind.

I think its more that Crabs have crazy firepower compared to an Atlas, so people are more willing to wait for them. People view atlai as harmless, so they leave them behind.

[Escef]

Reitrix, on 14 December 2014 - 05:20 AM, said:

I think its more that Crabs have crazy firepower compared to an Atlas, so people are more willing to wait for them. People view atlai as harmless, so they leave them behind.

Most KGCs actually mount less firepower than an Atlas. The ballistics common on KGCs are less tonnage efficient at dealing damage than SRMs. Granted, of course, there is something to be said for the hole-punching power of twin AC20 or Gauss.

[Walluh]

Atlas are better at vomiting damage all over your components, KGC is much better at actually killing something.

[Tahribator]

Escef, on 14 December 2014 - 05:31 AM, said:

Most KGCs actually mount less firepower than an Atlas. The ballistics common on KGCs are less tonnage efficient at dealing damage than SRMs. Granted, of course, there is something to be said for the hole-punching power of twin AC20 or Gauss.

KGC-0000 blows the Atlas out of water when it comes to firepower though. Be that lasers, ballistics or missiles.

[Seraphic Law]

Ph30nix, on 09 December 2014 - 09:36 PM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c573c55f0898662
6 AC/2
its actually semi viable (cooldown still sucks of course but its a gag build)
all 6 at once you can do a sustained fire for a moderate period of time
3 groups of 2 fired in chain fire (so 3 shots per slavo) is also pretty effective
with a macro and the current cooldown rate i think you could pull off the old school stream of shots too without enduring ghost heat.

Just tried this out with assisted fire and the ghost heat is insane.
It is useless, unplayable and most of all, unenjoyable.
Has there been any talk to reduce the ghost heat on AC/2?

Edited by Seraphic Law, 14 December 2014 - 06:08 AM.

[Reitrix]

Escef, on 14 December 2014 - 05:31 AM, said:

Most KGCs actually mount less firepower than an Atlas. The ballistics common on KGCs are less tonnage efficient at dealing damage than SRMs. Granted, of course, there is something to be said for the hole-punching power of twin AC20 or Gauss.

I see the Atlas as a dangerous close in brawler, but it relies on a mix of weapons to deal its damage, and SRMs being what they are, great for stripping armor, less so for scoring kills.
As it is, A King Crab can punch a hole in a Dire Wolf and make it back off in a similar way to the Dire Wolfves punching holes in Atlas' before the Crab came.

It mounts less total firepower, but since the Meta favors strongly pinpoint damage, the King Crab takes a dump on the poor Atlas.

We need a meta where shoot'n'scoot is less effective. Game feels very much like a cover shooter right now.

[Escef]

Tahribator, on 14 December 2014 - 05:36 AM, said:

KGC-0000 blows the Atlas out of water when it comes to firepower though. Be that lasers, ballistics or missiles.

Not really. All it has over the AS7-S as far as firepower potential is 1 Ballistic point. Maybe you could forgo the ballistic and mount heavy energy weapons, that's about the only way a KGC can out gun it.

[Thunder Lips Express]

I use mine like a large cataphract 4x. 4 ac5 and 2 medium lasers.... But I am far from a competitive /meta player

[SgtMagor]

haven't used my KC yet, been trying different load outs but then the Cataphract was mentioned, so I came up with this. I like the Cat-3D and this config emulates somewhat. test it a few more times then its ready for some live fire!
Large pulse
Ppc
Uac5
Lbx10
2-Lrm5
AMS
BAP
360XL
609 armor

Edited by SgtMagor, 14 December 2014 - 07:11 AM.

[RvDusty]

I think i will make this build when the crab will be available for c-bills

[smurfy]http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f40a41a0dcdbfd3[/smurfy]

Alternative:change 1 SRM 6 to SRM 4 and add 1 extra ton of ammo or half to add some extra armor and give it better heat efficiency.

Looks good for brawling but you will have some heat isues unless you are really good at HM
I suggest to chain the AC/20's in order to avoid the ghost heat and avoid to waste an extra shell for 1 shot kills.

Edited by FORCEFUL EAGLE, 07 January 2015 - 12:14 PM.

[Fate 6]

I have yet to try anything else, but right now I have 2AC20 2PPC. Kinda a throwback to when people ran poptart mechs, puts an insane amount of damage pinpoint on a location, can snipe relatively well, and brawls well with 2AC20 of course.

[Brody319]

I just swapped out the FF for Endo and double heat sinks. Put another Large laser, swapped the LRM 15 down to a 10, put a ton of ammo for it in, then use the rest of the space for AC20 ammo.

[Rhaegor]

Ecliptor, on 14 December 2014 - 06:06 AM, said:

I use mine like a large cataphract 4x. 4 ac5 and 2 medium lasers.... But I am far from a competitive /meta player

4x AC/5 & 2 x LL

Love it.

[Ruuki]

Cockpit Rocker!

This might be viable!

[Escef]

Brody319, on 14 December 2014 - 10:57 AM, said:

I just swapped out the FF for Endo and double heat sinks. Put another Large laser, swapped the LRM 15 down to a 10, put a ton of ammo for it in, then use the rest of the space for AC20 ammo.

Don't use the LRM10. Use a pair of 5 packs. You save a ton and get a better rate of fire.

[Glythe]

The King Crab you gave us is DoA because it has ghost heat for firing 2x AC 20's with AC/20 quirks.

Waiting for the others to be on sale for Cbills.

[Brody319]

Escef, on 14 December 2014 - 05:28 PM, said:

Don't use the LRM10. Use a pair of 5 packs. You save a ton and get a better rate of fire.

I haven't been playing with it very much. Been fighting in CW with my clan mechs. If I get around to it I will probably fix it up a bit.


I think the KC greatest weakness is that FF armor. ******* trash.

[Escef]

Brody319, on 14 December 2014 - 09:23 PM, said:

I think the KC greatest weakness is that FF armor. ******* trash.

Them go into the upgrades and rip it out and replace it with endo steel, duh.

[Brody319]

Escef, on 14 December 2014 - 10:11 PM, said:

Them go into the upgrades and rip it out and replace it with endo steel, duh.

I did, but its a pain to have to pay a little bit extra to rip it off and replace it.

[Escef]

Brody319, on 14 December 2014 - 10:24 PM, said:

I did, but its a pain to have to pay a little bit extra to rip it off and replace it.

It was also a pain to rip out the 300 and replace it with a 325. Free mech, who cares?