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Posted 20 April 2015 - 07:41 AM

View PostOdanan, on 20 April 2015 - 07:28 AM, said:

Uziel? Another fan favorite (because MW4). Hopefully in the 2nd or 3rd time leap (mid-3060s).

3rd hopefully, 3 or so years from now. Lovely balanced chassis though.

View PostOdanan, on 20 April 2015 - 07:39 AM, said:

Suggested time leaps:

3054 - we get the Wolfhound, Bushwacker, Devastator...

3060 - we get the Hellion, Nova Cat, Blood Asp...BlackJack Omni, Pillager,

3064 - we get the MW4 mechs: Osiris, Uziel, Arguns, Thanatos, Fafnir, Hellspawn, Chimera; and IS omnis: Avatar, Sunder, Hauptmann, Templar..

FTFY

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 07:41 AM

View PostOdanan, on 20 April 2015 - 07:39 AM, said:

Suggested time leaps:

3054 - we get the Wolfhound, Bushwacker, Devastator...

3060 - we get the Hellion, Nova Cat, Blood Asp...

3064 - we get the MW4 mechs: Osiris, Uziel, Arguns, Thanatos, Fafnir, Hellspawn, Chimera; and IS omnis: Avatar, Sunder, Hauptmann, Templar..


Ugh... that one scars me... twin Heavy Gauss, no thanks!

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 07:43 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 20 April 2015 - 07:40 AM, said:



True, and it makes me sad...

Also as Fup noted,t eh hardpoints are better and better located on the Uziel. High mounts are simply better and the PHX packs everything in low ape hangers in most configs.

View PostMetus regem, on 20 April 2015 - 07:41 AM, said:


Ugh... that one scars me... twin Heavy Gauss, no thanks!

I liked mine with 4 RAC5s, personally....... (Which not so coincidentally is also what my Jihad era Annihilator knockoffs ran)

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 07:47 AM

I'm a habitual purchaser of ****** robots.

What are some good Cataphract builds? Can the thing run an XL decently?
I briefly had a 4X, but, well, it was a 4X.

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 07:47 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 20 April 2015 - 07:43 AM, said:

Also as Fup noted,t eh hardpoints are better and better located on the Uziel. High mounts are simply better and the PHX packs everything in low ape hangers in most configs.


I liked mine with 4 RAC5s, personally....... (Which not so coincidentally is also what my Jihad era Annihilator knockoffs ran)



I'd be fine with RAC5's, they's do 5 point bonks like a SRM6, if you do the 6 shot salvo on the RAC... just a H-Gauss hits like a freaking truck, for 25/20/10 depending if you are at 6/13/20... or the I-H-Gauss for 22 at upto 19 hexs....

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 07:56 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 20 April 2015 - 07:47 AM, said:



I'd be fine with RAC5's, they's do 5 point bonks like a SRM6, if you do the 6 shot salvo on the RAC... just a H-Gauss hits like a freaking truck, for 25/20/10 depending if you are at 6/13/20... or the I-H-Gauss for 22 at upto 19 hexs....

This is MWO, probably have like a 3 second charge up before they can fire, lol.

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 08:04 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 20 April 2015 - 07:56 AM, said:

This is MWO, probably have like a 3 second charge up before they can fire, lol.


And plaster you with a hit to all locations too... but I think a charge up time like the Gauss would be more likely.

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 08:10 AM

View PostAntiCitizenJuan, on 20 April 2015 - 07:47 AM, said:

I'm a habitual purchaser of ****** robots.

What are some good Cataphract builds? Can the thing run an XL decently?
I briefly had a 4X, but, well, it was a 4X.

I have a muromets but I haven't run it in a long time and not during the current meta so I couldn't say. Back in teh day, I couldn't go wrong with AC20, but that's my playstyle... BIG BADA BOOM!

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 08:18 AM

I like the Cataphract 3D with 2 ERLLasers (mounted high in the shoulders), 2 MLasers, 2 UA/C5s. It runs XL, but I forget the size right now.

My Muromets is currently sitting. I've ran it with...
* 3 A/C10s
* 3 LBX10s and 3 MLasers
* 3 A/C5s and 3 MPLasers
* 3 UA/C5s and 3 MLasers
* 2 Gauss Rifles

I even ran triple gauss before, but they nerfed that. Triple gauss was a bit too glass anyway.

Any who, just some ideas.

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 11:05 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 20 April 2015 - 07:15 AM, said:

didn't stop the Enforcer from being put in (thankfully)
Ay, but that's the exception rather than the rule.

And it'd be just about all, on top of the extra work to bring in quads.
25 Total Quads in Battletech.
Of these 25, only 7 are in-timeline.
And of that, only 2 are practially usable (Scorpion and Goliath) and both would need non time-line variants introduced.
The remaining 2 IS ones are a LAM and lostech, and the other 3 are Clan Battlemechs (without enough variants in-timeline)
Then up to 2060, only another 5 frames, not all of which have enough variants, become available.

As per the list:
Quads available 3050 and prior (current timeline):
Medium - Scorpion (Only 2 Variants till 3067)
Medium - Scorpion LAM (Failed Prototype (one variant), and it's a LAM)
Assault - Goliath (Only 2 variants before 2063, one requires Rocket Launcher 10s, and very rare till 3060)
Assault - Xanthos (Only 2 variants pre-3068, lost mech till 3070)

Clan Battlemech:
Fire Scorpion, Snow Fox, Thunder Stallion

Quads available between 3051-3060 (next 10 years):
Barghest, Bishamon, Sirocco, Stalking Spider, Tarantula


Ultimately, I like Quads.
Especially some of the 3100+ ones.
The Antlion, Sarath, Jaguar, Stalking Spider (1and 2), Trebaruna, Thunderfox and White Flame are all really nice looking mechs.
The Jaguar and Snowfox I'd likely buy immediately upon their release.

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 03:01 PM

next Assault Mech announced!
Posted Image

Really... :ph34r:

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 03:31 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 20 April 2015 - 07:38 AM, said:


Yet we have no PXH because HG.


Why cant they use more Project Pheonix mechs for the "because HG" mechs? Was the company that made those mechs sued as well or something?

View PostBishop Steiner, on 20 April 2015 - 07:43 AM, said:

I liked mine with 4 RAC5s, personally....... (Which not so coincidentally is also what my Jihad era Annihilator knockoffs ran)


I rather wonder if we are going to ever get the RACs and the other new weapons being that they cant do alternate ammo because the coder that could understand the code apparently left PGI

View PostBishop Steiner, on 20 April 2015 - 07:56 AM, said:

This is MWO, probably have like a 3 second charge up before they can fire, lol.


6 second for "balance"

View PostOvion, on 20 April 2015 - 11:05 AM, said:

Ay, but that's the exception rather than the rule.

And it'd be just about all, on top of the extra work to bring in quads.
25 Total Quads in Battletech.
Of these 25, only 7 are in-timeline.
And of that, only 2 are practially usable (Scorpion and Goliath) and...


isnt at least one of those unseen?

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 03:36 PM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 20 April 2015 - 03:31 PM, said:

isnt at least one of those unseen?
Scorpion and Goliath are Reseen.
One of the others remains unseen, but I forget which.

Edited by Ovion, 20 April 2015 - 03:38 PM.


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Posted 20 April 2015 - 03:39 PM

where can i check set bonuses for omni mechs? smurfy doesn't seem to have them

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 03:41 PM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 20 April 2015 - 03:31 PM, said:


Why cant they use more Project Pheonix mechs for the "because HG" mechs? Was the company that made those mechs sued as well or something?



I rather wonder if we are going to ever get the RACs and the other new weapons being that they cant do alternate ammo because the coder that could understand the code apparently left PGI



6 second for "balance"



isnt at least one of those unseen?

RACs only use one ammo type. As for the Unseen, they have largely put the reseen on hold to just to avoid HG issues

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 04:10 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 20 April 2015 - 03:41 PM, said:

As for the Unseen, they have largely put the reseen on hold to just to avoid HG issues

Except for the Dougram and Crusher Joe ones, which are all in the Project Phoenix Pack.

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 04:23 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 20 April 2015 - 03:01 PM, said:

next Assault Mech announced!
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll243/killerpeaches7/426446d4-4e06-4d3f-bd28-f6720544ae5c_1.jpg

Really... :ph34r:
NO way! http://media-cache-a...904c0086461.jpg

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 04:28 PM

First the Urban Mech now the Mackie what would people ask for after a Mackie a farm mech?

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 04:30 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 20 April 2015 - 03:01 PM, said:

next Assault Mech announced!
Really... :ph34r:

Great, great design. Improves the original in every single way.

Now I want a "Lostech Pack".... :/

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 07:12 PM

View PostOdanan, on 20 April 2015 - 04:30 PM, said:

Great, great design. Improves the original in every single way.

Now I want a "Lostech Pack".... :/

thanks man, and so do I, so do I.





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