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#11541 TheArisen

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 01:53 AM

That Archer.... It's fantastic. I might just have to spring for it.

#11542 Uncle Totty

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 01:56 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 07 December 2015 - 07:18 PM, said:

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#11543 Odanan

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 04:05 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 07 December 2015 - 07:18 PM, said:

hey Oda....got a present for you....

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Yeah, yeah... give me a couple of days. ;)

And hey, I really liked those center torso (2 energy) high-mounted harpoints!

#11544 Metus regem

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 05:43 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 07 December 2015 - 07:18 PM, said:

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Wow and I thought my Dragons had a big nose.... Poor thing looks like it'll have Dragon and Mad Dog issues....

#11545 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 05:48 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 08 December 2015 - 05:43 AM, said:

Wow and I thought my Dragons had a big nose.... Poor thing looks like it'll have Dragon and Mad Dog issues....

i find it hard to believe how many people are shocked by this....well that and the cockpit placement. It's been in all the arts for the design for over 30 years now......

#11546 Metus regem

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 05:57 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 08 December 2015 - 05:48 AM, said:

i find it hard to believe how many people are shocked by this....well that and the cockpit placement. It's been in all the arts for the design for over 30 years now......


No, on some level I knew it would have these issues, but I have seen some alterations to the designs by MWO, that made them look better, to me at least. Like the MWO Centurions and Locust....

But who knows, maybe the Archer will get blessed with massive gaps in the hit boxes, or some other oversight by PGI that will make it a god for the meta try hards. That being said, I'll just go back to waiting to get into my WHM-6Rb.

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 06:13 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 08 December 2015 - 05:57 AM, said:

No, on some level I knew it would have these issues, but I have seen some alterations to the designs by MWO, that made them look better, to me at least. Like the MWO Centurions and Locust....

But who knows, maybe the Archer will get blessed with massive gaps in the hit boxes, or some other oversight by PGI that will make it a god for the meta try hards. That being said, I'll just go back to waiting to get into my WHM-6Rb.

most of those were necessity though, or not at expense to a mechs basic character. There Is little one could do to an Archers torso and still have an Archer.

#11548 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 06:16 AM

Well, as a plus to that design, even the low hard points look to be cockpit level. It should be pretty nice to use. Nothing is more frustrating than a knuckle-dragger where every shot seems to hit the terrain you are trying to fire over.

If I had one concern, it looks like it might possibly have the same hitbox issues as the Mad Dog. The side torsos are well defined and the missile doors will make the side torsos even larger.

This may mean substantial side torso structure/armor quirks. It may also deter SRM builds with the doors open all the time increasing the side torso surface area. The doors on the Catapult are at least horizontal (showing very little surface head-on). These doors appear like they might make the torso as much as 20% taller when the doors are open. Again, I think we will see quirks for those side torsos.

#11549 Metus regem

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 06:28 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 08 December 2015 - 06:13 AM, said:

most of those were necessity though, or not at expense to a mechs basic character. There Is little one could do to an Archers torso and still have an Archer.


Very true, I just hope to see them on the feild long after the release... Something I find to be a rare occurrence for most mechs, with most matches being the same 3-4 chassis in each weight class.

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 11:55 AM

I just dusted off the old Griffin 3M,

What's better these days? 4 SRM6 or 4 SRM4+A?

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 01:19 PM

View PostAntiCitizenJuan, on 08 December 2015 - 11:55 AM, said:

I just dusted off the old Griffin 3M,

What's better these days? 4 SRM6 or 4 SRM4+A?

SRM4, with or without Artemis are superior to SRM6, even with artemis. I usually run my 3M with 4xSRM4.

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 01:59 PM

View PostOdanan, on 08 December 2015 - 04:05 AM, said:

Yeah, yeah... give me a couple of days. Posted Image

And hey, I really liked those center torso (2 energy) high-mounted harpoints!


Laser Eyes! Posted Image

#11553 Steinar Bergstol

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 02:32 PM

Wow! That Archer is probably the closest unseen design to the original Macross one that Alex has done so far. It is _instantly_ recognizable for anyone who's seen the original. I approve!

#11554 SgtMagor

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 02:42 PM

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Posted 10 December 2015 - 11:00 AM

I'm somewhat worried about the Archer's transition from Alex's art to in game. The concept art looks so good but will the in game model be as good?

#11556 Odanan

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Posted 10 December 2015 - 11:41 AM

View PostTheArisen, on 10 December 2015 - 11:00 AM, said:

I'm somewhat worried about the Archer's transition from Alex's art to in game. The concept art looks so good but will the in game model be as good?

We will need to wait to know... now where is the Archer store page? I want to see the variants and hero!

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Posted 12 December 2015 - 04:02 AM

Now, those who were at the party: please put here the recently acquired insider knowledge.
  • When is the Archer pack coming?
  • Which is the hero Archer?
  • News about the new Clan mechs?
  • PVE?
  • Singleplayer missions?
  • 4 vs. 4 "recon" mode?
  • Long Tom?
Did you learn anything, anything new?

#11558 Odanan

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Posted 12 December 2015 - 05:13 AM

OMG.

#11559 JudgeDeathCZ

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Posted 12 December 2015 - 05:42 AM

for once it is not just simple new mech(pack) announcement

#11560 KuroNyra

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Posted 12 December 2015 - 06:13 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 07 December 2015 - 07:18 PM, said:

hey Oda....got a present for you....
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Why does he remind me of this guy?
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