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[BarHaid]

TheArisen, on 24 November 2015 - 12:45 PM, said:

I got into the game with MW3 & 4, I don't really have an attachment to the unseen. Some of them are cool and/or have cool characters that piloted them (Phoenix Hawk & Justin Liao) but otherwise I only see a mediocre mech.

The Valkyrie will more or less fill the same roll as the Javelin but it won't add as much to gameplay as the Javelin would. It's like the Lancelot versus the Rifleman. The Lancelot is obviously the better mech but because the Rifleman is an unseen, it got added. At least it was an important unseen. The Valkyrie isn't. When asked what unseen they want next, no one asks for the Valkyrie. You admitted it's the least important unseen. Did you even remember it before I brought it up?

Basically, I'd like the better mech that adds more to gameplay to be added. In this case, that's the Javelin.

Well, here's to hoping that we get bonuses for running faction-specific mechs in Community Warfare someday.


someday.....

[Odanan]

Now, the Phoenix Hawk, the only Macross Unseen medium (45 tons).
Wow, it has a lot of variants!

Phoenix Hawk PXH-1 (6 jumpjets)

RA 2e, 1b [2b]
RT
CT
H
LT
LA 1e, 1b

Phoenix Hawk PXH-1D (6 jumpjets)

RA 2e [4e]
RT
CT
H
LT
LA 1e [2e]

Phoenix Hawk PXH-1K (no jumpjets)

RA 2e [3e]
RT
CT 1e [2e]
H
LT
LA 1e [3e]

Phoenix Hawk PXH-3D (6 jumpjets, ES, DHS, XL Engine, extra AMS)

RA 2e [3e], 1AMS
RT
CT
H
LT
LA 2e [3e]

Phoenix Hawk PXH-3K (6 jumpjets, FF, DHS, XL Engine)

RA 2e [3e]
RT
CT
H
LT
LA 2e [3e]

Phoenix Hawk PXH-3M (6 jumpjets, ES, DHS, XL Engine, extra AMS)

RA 2e, 1AMS
RT
CT
H
LT
LA 2e, 1b [2b]

Phoenix Hawk PXH-3S (6 jumpjets, FF, DHS, XL Engine, MASC, extra AMS)

RA 2e, 1AMS
RT
CT MASC
H
LT
LA 1e, 2b [3b]

Phoenix Hawk PXH-1B (6 jumpjets, ES, DHS, XL Engine, ECM)

RA 2e, 1b
RT 1e
CT ECM
H
LT
LA 1e, 1b

Phoenix Hawk PXH-2 (6 jumpjets, ECM)

RA 2e [4e]
RT
CT ECM
H
LT
LA 1e [2e]

EDIT: the best 4 variants to start in the game should be: PXH-1 (the "standard" variant), PXH-1K (no jumpjets, more lasers), PXH-3S (extra AMS, MASC), PXH-1B or PXH-2 (ECM variants).

Edited by Odanan, 25 November 2015 - 04:44 AM.

[Nightshade24]

BarHaid, on 24 November 2015 - 02:06 PM, said:

Well, here's to hoping that we get bonuses for running faction-specific mechs in Community Warfare someday.


someday.....

BarHaid, on 24 November 2015 - 02:06 PM, said:

Well, here's to hoping that we get bonuses for running faction-specific mechs in Community Warfare someday.

someday.....

That's PGI's plan but they do not know the best way exactly...
And ballance.

Let's say if they do loyalty point/ C-bill reward...

Do you really want Clan Jade Falcon to have more c-bills in Stormcrows and clan wolf having more c-bills with Timberwolf?
On the flipside the Ghost bears bonuses is the Gargoyle, executioner, mad dog, and nova... would ANYONE play ghost bear?!? Besides people like me. Sure... ghost bear has superior IIC and battlemech counts... so hunchback IIC.... HIghlander IIC.... Eventually kodiak, supernova, etc... would be plentiful and having quirked ER large laser spam or able to have a meta timberwolf but at 100 tons with gauss, 6 medium lasers and a pair of larges sound fun.... But yea.

The other problem is Liao doesn't have much mechs that they can claim as their own... they often used tanks and other vehicles....

the other suggestion is an EXP or Loyalty point boost...

one suggestion is that after PGI releases repair and rearm costs, that faction specific mechs get larger discounts for said faction.



Those are the main ideas up in the air and the crab can get it's lore-quirk of being cheap to repair. But otherwise all I can say is that PGI is planning to make mechs more faction specific than simply clan = clan, is = is.

[Odanan]

OK, here we go again: top 3 preferred mechs for each faction.

Clans, omnimechs, ~3053, in ordem of preference, with bonus not released mechs under ():

Clan Jade Falcon
- light: Kit Fox, Adder, (Fire Falcon)
- medium: Stormcrow, Ice Ferret (or Viper), (Black Lanner)
- heavy: Summoner, Hellbringer, (Night Gyr)
- assault: Gargoyle, Executioner, (Turkina)

Clan Ghost Bear
- light: (Fire Moth), Adder, Mist Lynx
- medium: (Viper), Stormcrow, Ice Ferret
- heavy: Mad Dog, Timber Wolf, Hellbringer
- assault: Executioner, Gargoyle, (Kingfisher)

Clan Smoke Jaguar
- light: Mist Lynx, Adder, Arctic Cheetah
- medium: Stormcrow, Shadow Cat, (Mongrel or Huntsman)
- heavy: Mad Dog, Timber Wolf, Ebon Jaguar
- assault: Dire Wolf, Warhawk, (Kingfisher)

Clan Wolf
- light: Adder, Mist Lynx, (Fire Moth)
- medium: Ice Ferret, Stormcrow, (Pouncer or Phantom)
- heavy: Timber Wolf, Mad Dog, (Linebacker)
- assault: Gargoyle, Dire Wolf, (Naga)

About the non-omni mechs...
- Jenner IIC: ?
- Hunchback IIC: common for all Clans
- Orion IIC: Clan Wolf
- Highlander IIC: ?

PS: nobody loves the Nova...

Edited by Odanan, 25 November 2015 - 12:44 PM.

[Virlutris]

Even if the Nova's not making any of the Top 3 lists, who uses it most? Ghost Bear, maybe?

[Odanan]

Virlutris, on 25 November 2015 - 11:02 AM, said:

Even if the Nova's not making any of the Top 3 lists, who uses it most? Ghost Bear, maybe?

Clan Wolf.

[Odanan]

I did the Crusader and Archer variants a while ago, so the only ones remaining are the Longbow (85 tons) and the Marauder II (100 tons).

Longbow LGB-0W
max 400 engine (82.0 km/h)

RA 1m [2m]
RT 1m [2m]
CT
H 1e
LT 1m [2m]
LA 1m [2m]

Longbow LGB-7Q
max 310 engine (63.5 km/h)

RA 1m [2m]
RT 1m, 1e [2e]
CT
H
LT 1m, 1e [2e]
LA 1m [2m]

Suggested PGI variants:

Longbow "LGB-7P"
max 400 engine (82.0 km/h)

RA 1m [2m]
RT 1e [2e]
CT 1e
H
LT 1e [2e]
LA 1m [2m]

Longbow "LGB-8P"
max 310 engine (63.5 km/h)

RA 1m [3m]
RT 1m [2m]
CT
H
LT 1m [2m]
LA 1m [3m]

3 year ahead the timeline:

Longbow LGB-7V (3056)
max 310 engine (63.5 km/h)

RA 1m [2m]
RT 2e
CT 1e
H 1e
LT 2e
LA 1m [2m]


Now the extremely rare Marauder II:

Marauder II MAD-5A (LBX/10 quirks?)

RA 2e [3e]
RT 1b [2b]
CT
H
LT
LA 2e [3e]

Marauder II MAD-4A (Large Laser quirks?)

RA 2e [3e]
RT 1e [2e]
CT
H
LT
LA 2e [3e]

Marauder II MAD-5B (Gauss quirks? better quirks because it has 1 less hardpoint?)

RA 2e [3e]
RT 1b
CT
H
LT
LA 2e [3e]

Marauder II MAD-5C (UAC/5 quirks?)

RA 2e
RT 1b [4b]
CT
H
LT
LA 2e

Edited by Odanan, 23 January 2016 - 02:26 PM.

[Strum Wealh]

Virlutris, on 25 November 2015 - 11:02 AM, said:

Even if the Nova's not making any of the Top 3 lists, who uses it most? Ghost Bear, maybe?

Odanan, on 25 November 2015 - 12:05 PM, said:

Clan Wolf.

"The Black Hawk is deployed thinly but evenly throughout the Clans. It was first spotted with a Clan Wolf attack force, and it is slightly more common among the Wolf Clan than among others. Few Clan Clusters have more than one or two Black Hawks in their ranks." - TRO 3050 (also reproduced here)

[Bishop Steiner]

Strum Wealh, on 26 November 2015 - 10:01 AM, said:

"The Black Hawk is deployed thinly but evenly throughout the Clans. It was first spotted with a Clan Wolf attack force, and it is slightly more common among the Wolf Clan than among others. Few Clan Clusters have more than one or two Black Hawks in their ranks." - TRO 3050 (also reproduced here)

Storm Crow meta FTW!

[Strum Wealh]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 November 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

Storm Crow meta FTW!

"The Ryoken, in several configurations, is one of the most common 'Mechs in the Smoke Jaguar forces. The primary configuration is also common in the other Clans, but the alternates are less widespread. Especially among the Smoke Jaguars, the Ryoken draws so many different assignments that Draconis Combine MechWarriors can expect to battle these OmniMechs in almost any engagement." - source

Indeed - the Ryoken FOTM is so prevalent that it extends back to BattleTech itself!

[TheArisen]

We've got the full rundown of the Marauder. How good is it looking to be? The arms seem higher (thankfully) than I'd have thought.

[MeiSooHaityu]

I watched the NGNG sneak peek of the Marauder and I am pretty hyped. It looks like a pretty solid IS heavy.

http://mwomercs.com/...lassic-returns/

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 01 December 2015 - 06:33 AM.

[Strum Wealh]

TheArisen, on 01 December 2015 - 03:39 AM, said:

We've got the full rundown of the Marauder. How good is it looking to be? The arms seem higher (thankfully) than I'd have thought.

It is the Marauder - it is good.
It is even better than crushing your enemies and seeing them driven before you and hearing the lamentations of their women (or men).

What the so-called "tryhards" and "meta/FOTM-w***es" think of it matters not.
Marauder is love, life, and ecstasy...

[Odanan]

MeiSooHaityu, on 01 December 2015 - 06:30 AM, said:

I watched the NGNG sneak peek of the Marauder and I am pretty hyped. It looks like a pretty solid IS heavy.

http://mwomercs.com/...lassic-returns/

Hmmmm Bombadil said something about the 4 mechs he really wanted to have in MWO are now arriving to the game. Archer confirmed?

[xVLFBERHxT]

I hope so! Morgan Kell is an featured charakter in the new Battletech game, he needs to bee in an Archer!

[Nightshade24]

Odanan, on 01 December 2015 - 09:15 AM, said:

Hmmmm Bombadil said something about the 4 mechs he really wanted to have in MWO are now arriving to the game. Archer confirmed?

I heard that apparently russ mentioned on twitter that the archer will be the last of this 4 Classic mechs series. But do not quote me on that. I personally suck at using twitter and my navigation skills there is so poor that I can't even find the post confirming the marauder or anything =l let alone archer.

[Odanan]

Nightshade24, on 01 December 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

I heard that apparently russ mentioned on twitter that the archer will be the last of this 4 Classic mechs series. But do not quote me on that. I personally suck at using twitter and my navigation skills there is so poor that I can't even find the post confirming the marauder or anything =l let alone archer.

I scanned every inch of Russ' twitter for the last 3 months and there is no mention of the word "Archer".

[Nightshade24]

Odanan, on 01 December 2015 - 03:05 PM, said:

I scanned every inch of Russ' twitter for the last 3 months and there is no mention of the word "Archer".

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Odanan]

TrapJaw80, on 01 December 2015 - 10:31 AM, said:

I hope so! Morgan Kell is an featured charakter in the new Battletech game, he needs to bee in an Archer!

This is very true. Archer needs to show up in MWO, and I think it will be announced a few days after the Steam release.

Besides, I would love to read the text fluff for the Kell's hero Archer. Good chance to put some light in that "Phantom" ability.

[Bishop Steiner]

Odanan, on 06 December 2015 - 09:55 AM, said:

This is very true. Archer needs to show up in MWO, and I think it will be announced a few days after the Steam release.

Besides, I would love to read the text fluff for the Kell's hero Archer. Good chance to put some light in that "Phantom" ability.

pretty sure Phil and Darren let the cat out of the bag on the Marauder reveal video. Yes, it's gonna be an Archer, finish off NGNGs Alpha Lance.
https://youtu.be/zOqYUEUWfTQ?t=48s
https://youtu.be/zOqYUEUWfTQ?t=28m35s

No the Archer doesn't really add anything, and has questionable hitboxes, but yes, it's iconic.

I would still vastly prefer to see the Phoenix Hawk, then the more versatile Crusader, then maybe the Archer, though a Longbow or OST series would be neat to see Alex take on.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 06 December 2015 - 10:21 AM.