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#11601 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 06:50 AM

What?? No more unseens? *puts wallet away for a much needed nap.

#11602 FLG 01

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 07:00 AM

What is the opinion on the Spartan?

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Spartan

It has three canonic variants pre-3050, although they are pretty much the same and rare outside of ComStar. ...like a handful in service of Rhonda's Irregulars, the Black Heart Roses, and the Blackstone Highlanders.

Anyway I would love to have an 80t Mech with a 400-engine. (iirc, there is only the hero Victor that could do that).

#11603 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 07:04 AM

View PostOdanan, on 23 December 2015 - 06:39 AM, said:

Hopefully the next IS medium mech. After Phoenix Hawk, of course.

Do we really need yet another 55 tonner, though?

What we need is the 40 tonners!
Like the Vulcan.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 23 December 2015 - 07:04 AM.


#11604 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 07:06 AM

I think the whole..."Do we need more x" has been surpassed LONG ago when it comes to mechs.

Since PGI needs to make mechs for income, why not a fan favorite like the Bushwacker?

#11605 Metus regem

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 07:24 AM

The Bushwacker and I have a love hate relationship... I hate using them in TT, constantly underperforming for me... But learned to love if in MW3....

I would like to see the Champion though...

#11606 Odanan

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 07:51 AM

View PostFLG 01, on 23 December 2015 - 07:00 AM, said:

What is the opinion on the Spartan?

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Spartan

It has three canonic variants pre-3050, although they are pretty much the same and rare outside of ComStar. ...like a handful in service of Rhonda's Irregulars, the Black Heart Roses, and the Blackstone Highlanders.

Anyway I would love to have an 80t Mech with a 400-engine. (iirc, there is only the hero Victor that could do that).

As an assault mech, I would prefer a more common chassis.
The Charger is another fast 80 tonner, but with very diverse variants. It is not very popular, because of some poor stock variants, but it can be very good after the mechlab.

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 09:18 AM

Well the Charger would be a more common Mech that indeed fits the style I want... There is no doubt it would overall be the better choice for most of the players. It is just that I do not like it very much.

And I like LosTech-Mechs. (I would also love to see the Spector, Wyvern, Cestus, Thunderhawk...).

Edited by FLG 01, 23 December 2015 - 09:19 AM.


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Posted 23 December 2015 - 09:22 AM

View PostFLG 01, on 23 December 2015 - 09:18 AM, said:

Well the Charger would be a more common Mech that indeed fits the style I want... There is no doubt it would overall be the better choice for most of the players. It is just that I do not like it very much.

And I like LosTech-Mechs. (I would also love to see the Spector, Wyvern, Cestus, Thunderhawk...).

You said Spartan and I thought Longbow. I'm like "Yeah, a missile boat assault that isn't a Stalker, I'm good with that."

#11609 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 09:52 AM

View Postcdlord, on 23 December 2015 - 09:22 AM, said:

You said Spartan and I thought Longbow.

Why would you think "Longbow"?

Wasn't "Spartan" the Macross name for the Archer? Posted Image

#11610 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 10:12 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 23 December 2015 - 09:52 AM, said:

Why would you think "Longbow"?

Wasn't "Spartan" the Macross name for the Archer? Posted Image

Archer = Gladiator
Longbow = Spartan
Rifleman = Radar X
Warhammer = Excalibur
Valkyrie = Veritech Fighter
Phoenix Hawk = Super Veritech
Crusader = Armored Veritech

(Just looked in my Robotech RPG book from Palladium)

#11611 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 10:38 AM

View Postcdlord, on 23 December 2015 - 10:12 AM, said:

Archer = Gladiator
Longbow = Spartan

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(I looked it up, the Archer is known as both the "Spartan" and the "Gladiator"; Longbow is the "Phalanx"; Rifleman is the "Defender"; Warhammer is the "Tomahawk")

Jesus that's confusing

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 23 December 2015 - 10:41 AM.


#11612 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 10:46 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 23 December 2015 - 10:38 AM, said:

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(I looked it up, the Archer is known as both the "Spartan" and the "Gladiator"; Longbow is the "Phalanx"; Rifleman is the "Defender"; Warhammer is the "Tomahawk")

Jesus that's confusing

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#11613 Metus regem

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 11:12 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 23 December 2015 - 10:38 AM, said:

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(I looked it up, the Archer is known as both the "Spartan" and the "Gladiator"; Longbow is the "Phalanx"; Rifleman is the "Defender"; Warhammer is the "Tomahawk")

Jesus that's confusing


What you've got are the Japanese names from Macross, what CD has is Robotech...

Edited by Metus regem, 23 December 2015 - 11:13 AM.


#11614 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 11:19 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 23 December 2015 - 11:12 AM, said:

What you've got are the Japanese names from Macross, what CD has is Robotech...

Well, they're originally from Japan, so you'd think THESE names are the real thing Posted Image

#11615 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 11:21 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 23 December 2015 - 10:38 AM, said:

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(I looked it up, the Archer is known as both the "Spartan" and the "Gladiator"; Longbow is the "Phalanx"; Rifleman is the "Defender"; Warhammer is the "Tomahawk")

Jesus that's confusing

View Postcdlord, on 23 December 2015 - 10:46 AM, said:

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View PostMetus regem, on 23 December 2015 - 11:12 AM, said:

What you've got are the Japanese names from Macross, what CD has is Robotech...



Nothing too confusing.

Macross was the original Japanese entity that was licensed in the USA to be the first third of the Robotech Saga. As Metus said, they used different names in the different markets and versions.

And of course, FASA licensed rights from StudioNue around the time HG obtained rights from a different studio that did not actually own the IP rights, for Robotech.

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 11:25 AM

View Postcdlord, on 23 December 2015 - 10:46 AM, said:

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HEy Bro, do you even robotech? New editions use the Spartan and Phalanx, Defender, Monster and Tomahawk designations.

Just sayin, bruh!

#11617 Virlutris

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 12:34 PM

Where's the Marauder fit into all that?

Wasn't its Macross/Robotech precursor a Zentradi machine?

Ed: clarity

Edited by Virlutris, 23 December 2015 - 12:36 PM.


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Posted 23 December 2015 - 12:35 PM

View PostVirlutris, on 23 December 2015 - 12:34 PM, said:

Where's the Marauder fit into all that?

Wasn't it a Zentradi machine?

Yes. Glaug Officer's Pod.

And the OST series of mechs are LOOSELY based off the Regult Battlepods used by the Zentraedi Foot Soldiers.

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 12:39 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 23 December 2015 - 12:35 PM, said:

Yes. Glaug Officer's Pod.

And the OST series of mechs are LOOSELY based off the Regult Battlepods used by the Zentraedi Foot Soldiers.


OSTs: I'm not thinking we'll see those in the game any time soon.

Then again, they'll probably end up showing up this year just to show I've been irresponsibly predictive :P

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 12:42 PM

View PostVirlutris, on 23 December 2015 - 12:39 PM, said:

OSTs: I'm not thinking we'll see those in the game any time soon.

Then again, they'll probably end up showing up this year just to show I've been irresponsibly predictive Posted Image

I'd love to see Osts, personally.
I mean, if anyone can make them cool-looking, it's our Alex!





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