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[Odanan]

Next Clan OmniMech: Viper:

I'm pleased!!

[Metus regem]

Odanan, on 01 April 2016 - 07:45 PM, said:

Next Clan OmniMech: Viper:

I'm pleased!!

I'm not, but my wallet will be happy not to be ripped open and roughly abused by me handing out USD like crazy.


EDIT:

Looking at the concept art, I think it'll have bad hit boxes, with a nose like that.

Edited by Metus regem, 01 April 2016 - 08:01 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

I could go either way. Not my choice, but looked at the Symmetry and figured TRO 3050 needed to be as closed to finished as the Engine allows

[Odanan]

Other mech will be announced by the middle of the month (did he said IS mech?).

Hmm... does this smell of April Fool's joke? Specially because he said there will be a hero (in this case, an omni hero - something Russ discarded last Townhall). Or maybe they are just probing the people's reactions towards the Viper. If the reactions are not good enough, they can just say it's the April's Fool joke and stick with the other mech.

40 tons, runs and jumps like the Arctic Cheetah, but with Cicada size.
I think it's a fine addition. Will it sell super well? - no. Will it be super popular one day? - if heavy quirked, yes.

PS: but the concept art is amazing.

Metus regem, on 01 April 2016 - 07:55 PM, said:

Looking at the concept art, I think it'll have bad hit boxes, with a nose like that.

It has a big nose, but small torso. I think the hitboxes will be great.

Edited by Odanan, 01 April 2016 - 08:45 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Odanan, on 01 April 2016 - 08:28 PM, said:

Other mech will be announced by the middle of the month (did he said IS mech?).

Hmm... does this smell of April Fool's joke? Specially because he said there will be a hero (in this case, an omni hero - something Russ discarded last Townhall). Or maybe they are just probing the people's reactions towards the Viper. If the reactions are not good enough, they can just say it's the April's Fool joke and stick with the other mech.

40 tons, runs and jumps like the Arctic Cheetah, but with Cicada size.
I think it's a fine addition. Will it sell super well? - no. Will it be super popular one day? - if heavy quirked, yes.

PS: but the concept art is amazing.


It has a big nose, but small torso. I think the hitboxes will be great.

shouldn't be much worse than a Raven's hitboxes. I need to look up the torso hardpoints on the Dragonfly tomorrow, because the Arm ones will of course, be roundly ignored by most people, unless it has to have them to vomit.

Prime
2 Machine Guns RT
(Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
2 Medium Pulse Lasers RA
1 Anti-Missile System LT
(Ammo Locations: 1 LT)
1 SRM 4 LA 3 25 2 2
(Ammo Locations: 1 LA)

Alpha


2 ER Medium Lasers RT
1 ER Medium Laser RA
2 ER Medium Lasers LT
1 SRM 6 w/ Artemis IV LA
(Ammo Locations: 1 LA)

Bravo

1 Flamer RT
1 Small Pulse Laser RA
1 Small Pulse Laser LT
1 ER PPC LA

Charlie

2 Machine Guns RT
(Ammo Locations: 2 LT, 1 RT)
2 Flamers RA
2 Machine Guns LT
2 ER Medium Lasers LA
1 Flamer CT
1 Active Probe LA

Delta

1 LRM 5 RT
(Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
2 ER Medium Lasers RA
1 ER Small Laser LT
1 Streak SRM 6 LA
(Ammo Locations: 1 LT)

Looks like 5 Energy in the Torsos (2x each ST, 1x CT) and 2x Energy per Arm.
Charlie Ct, Alpha RT/LT, Prime RA, Charlie LA.

Gosh, any guesses, what all the Vipers will be packing? *Sigh*

The other "Meta" Build of course will be using the energy STs to build 2x ERLL Snipers.

Packing the Charlie with a Prime RA could make a fun Jumbo Ember, though, 4x B and 1x E (CT) 2x E (2xRA/2xLA), pack something like 4xMG (ammo x2), 1 X ERLL (CT) and 4x ERSL (2 per arm) for those who laugh at meta.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 02 April 2016 - 12:16 AM.

[CK16]

Better image was posted by NGNG-TV

[Bishop Steiner]

CK16, on 02 April 2016 - 12:08 AM, said:

Better image was posted by NGNG-TV

Cbill Mech for my Clan Acct. Would have to have a very good Hero or other incentive to get me to buy it, but that's because I just ain't wild for Vipers. I think it still looks pretty MEH, not any fault of Alex, it's just that like the Kintaro, some mechs, you can only do so much for.

[kapusta11]

4 tons of JJs, for what they allow you to do, seems like an overkill.

[CK16]

I will probably end up buying at least the minimum package,maybe upgrade we will see. You see the unit I rep, I gotta atleast own local production. Rights. Though I think we all know I am more a Timberwolf pilot.

I am very eager stil for my mk.ii but to be honest I am more interested in just seeing how Alex will draw it up more so then when they plan to release it. But sadly these are tied together :/ Russ once again said he isn't ready and probably won't for awhile, though if they can do 2 mechs a month once in awbule, maybe a year to 18 months? It's cool not wanting the mech in game right now just grrrr! How long did you guys have to wait for your Marauder? I don't think I can wait that long I gotta have something to chew on o.O

[CDLord HHGD]

CK16, on 02 April 2016 - 12:08 AM, said:

Better image was posted by NGNG-TV

I really like it. It's unique.

[Imperius]

I hope you all buy it... Oh wait I see the majority already say C-Bills.

[Metus regem]

Imperius, on 02 April 2016 - 08:44 AM, said:

I hope you all buy it... Oh wait I see the majority already say C-Bills.

Never said I'd buy it, and I'm not going to burn the c-bills on it, lots of hard points but almost no pod space....

[zagibu]

CD LoreHammer Lord, on 02 April 2016 - 08:32 AM, said:

I really like it. It's unique.

It's a Nova with different forearms and a boat stuck in its face. But I like it, too.

[Imperius]

Metus regem, on 02 April 2016 - 08:46 AM, said:

Never said I'd buy it, and I'm not going to burn the c-bills on it, lots of hard points but almost no pod space....

Well my point is, this is what we get when people stop advancement when it's needed. Now sales will tank, so if that was your goal, congratulations you succeeded.

Archer (sales hurt)
Phoenix Hawk (Dunno, but heavy advertising)
Steam retention ended up low, I assume no PVE (safe place to learn and play) remember these were people who had no attachment to BT, therefore they needed extra care in providing interest and a place to learn, PVP can't offer that.
Viper (no one guessed it because literally no one wanted it)

[TheArisen]

Imperius, on 02 April 2016 - 09:06 AM, said:

Well my point is, this is what we get when people stop advancement when it's needed. Now sales will tank, so if that was your goal, congratulations you succeeded.

Archer (sales hurt)
Phoenix Hawk (Dunno, but heavy advertising)
Steam retention ended up low, I assume no PVE (safe place to learn and play) remember these were people who had no attachment to BT, therefore they needed extra care in providing interest and a place to learn, PVP can't offer that.
Viper (no one guessed it because literally no one wanted it)

Actually the Viper had lots of fans but in the polls I saw it was losing to the Blanner but it was in 2nd place.

[Odanan]

Imperius, on 02 April 2016 - 09:06 AM, said:

Viper (no one guessed it because literally no one wanted it)

He said "I doubt you can guess the next mech", so we tried less obvious mechs.

I agree the Viper is not the #1 mech in anybody's list, but it's an expected mech (being one of the 16 original Clan mechs).

About PVE, yes, I agree it is very important for people to 1) learn how to play; 2) play casually; 3) learn about the lore. Vote for Odanan as one of PGI's game designer and I promise I will work on that 80 hours a week.

[Odanan]

TheArisen, on 02 April 2016 - 09:25 AM, said:

Actually the Viper had lots of fans but in the polls I saw it was losing to the Blanner but it was in 2nd place.

It was a close second in the English poll (but really lost in the German poll).
In the original Twitter post, it was the most voted medium (12 votes, while Black Lanner had 9) last time I checked.

If the next standalone mech is a Clanner, I believe it will be the Fire Moth!

(that would make the Clan Wave 4 all Jade Falcon mechs)

[Imperius]

Odanan, on 02 April 2016 - 09:28 AM, said:

He said "I doubt you can guess the next mech", so we tried less obvious mechs.

I agree the Viper is not the #1 mech in anybody's list, but it's an expected mech (being one of the 16 original Clan mechs).

About PVE, yes, I agree it is very important for people to 1) learn how to play; 2) play casually; 3) learn about the lore. Vote for Odanan as one of PGI's game designer and I promise I will work on that 80 hours a week.

The sales wil be the tale, a big gripe I have here in these forums is too many people talk about what mech should be in the game based off the crappy "TT balance guideline called timeline" when the focus is getting people to buy the mechs not wait for the c-Bill version, money keeps the light on the timeline just drains it.

[Odanan]

Imperius, on 02 April 2016 - 10:52 AM, said:

The sales wil be the tale, a big gripe I have here in these forums is too many people talk about what mech should be in the game based off the crappy "TT balance guideline called timeline" when the focus is getting people to buy the mechs not wait for the c-Bill version, money keeps the light on the timeline just drains it.

Russ said he want this game to be around in 7 years (sure we want that too!) and didn't want to "burn" some mechs by releasing them already. It makes sense. Each mech release must be more attractive to keep the people buying. If they add all the "best" MW4 mechs now, what will be left to release in 4, 5, 6 years?

Have you considered that the more propaganda you do for the Mad Cat MK II, the more it could be delayed?

[CK16]

Honestly I took a break from the game last summer to take part in the Armored warfare Early Access testing, Id id that then jumped to WoT for a few months did my work on the M60A1 crusade. I was not planning to jump on MWO for awhile because I was in despair over mech choices for Clans...I figured the Mk.II would never show up really OR the Kodiak...I was brought back BY the Kodiak and seeing the a new mech once a month is very exciting, waves were boring cause you got one big WHAMMY of a surprise then 4 months of waiting and if you are faction specific like I am if the year was only 1 for you and 2 for them it was very frustrating. That being said Kodiak saved me, now I hang around for new Clan mechs, and waiting till the Mk.II is announcement that I might have spare party supplies around for!

Imperious I get the disappointment I do see your points but we did need a medium and we need a 20 tonner. I mean we just got a Clan Assault, we need to wait. It wont be that long man we can do it! We got most theroy crafting done, we got several concepts to go off of for an idea. All we can do is wait a few more months. I think we all know there is only so much more from this era worth money, even Russ knows this but we have to finish off the big ones first.