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#12861 Metus regem

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 07:25 AM

View PostChapeL, on 21 April 2016 - 07:18 AM, said:

If PGI starts reusing mech parts for new designs people will accuse them of being lazy ( and rightly so ) I mean those same people are already accusing PGI of reusing the Warhammer's legs on the Cyclops regardlessof the GLARING differences ...



Right.... not like mechs already in game don't share art assets or anything....

Viper and Nova share legs
Timber Wolf and Mad Dog share legs
Hellbringer and Summoner share legs
Warhawk and Dire Wolf share legs
Arctic Cheetah and Mist Lynx share legs
Timber Wolf, Hellbringer and Summoner share arms

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 07:27 AM

View Postdervishx5, on 21 April 2016 - 07:20 AM, said:

I thought that was the Flea.

In the land of Canada, in the fog of Vancouver, the Dark Lord Russ forged in secret, a master mech, to control all others. And into this mech he poured all his cruelty, his malice and his will to tease us for 3 years.

I believe they intended to release the Flea until the first Unseen pack (Project Phoenix) go the green light. After the Locust (which even look similar), the priority for the Flea drop to 0.

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 07:28 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 21 April 2016 - 07:25 AM, said:



Right.... not like mechs already in game don't share art assets or anything....

Viper and Nova share legs
Timber Wolf and Mad Dog share legs
Hellbringer and Summoner share legs
Warhawk and Dire Wolf share legs
Arctic Cheetah and Mist Lynx share legs
Timber Wolf, Hellbringer and Summoner share arms

How can you stay true to omni design without reusing assets?? Isn't that the whole point? O.o

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 07:32 AM

View PostCD LoreHammer Lord, on 21 April 2016 - 07:28 AM, said:

How can you stay true to omni design without reusing assets?? Isn't that the whole point? O.o



It actually makes a lot of sense, it reduces supply lines, makes maintenance faster and easier, you can cannibalize damaged units to fix more units, it is a very efficient way to do things for military equipment.

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 07:34 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 21 April 2016 - 07:25 AM, said:



Right.... not like mechs already in game don't share art assets or anything....

Viper and Nova share legs
Timber Wolf and Mad Dog share legs
Hellbringer and Summoner share legs
Warhawk and Dire Wolf share legs
Arctic Cheetah and Mist Lynx share legs
Timber Wolf, Hellbringer and Summoner share arms

Let's not forget the Executioner and the Gargoyle, who share the legs and one arm.

The Mist Lynx share legs with the (unreleased) Fire Moth, not with the Arctic Cheetah.

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 07:39 AM

View PostOdanan, on 21 April 2016 - 07:34 AM, said:

Let's not forget the Executioner and the Gargoyle, who share the legs and one arm.

The Mist Lynx share legs with the (unreleased) Fire Moth, not with the Arctic Cheetah.



I know in TT they do, but I was looking at the MWO models, barring the keen caps on the Mist Lynx they legs and feet look a lot like the ones on the Cheetah....

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 07:54 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 21 April 2016 - 07:32 AM, said:



It actually makes a lot of sense, it reduces supply lines, makes maintenance faster and easier, you can cannibalize damaged units to fix more units, it is a very efficient way to do things for military equipment.

Exactly!

Why ship a dozen different replacement legs when you can ship a dozen of the same leg?

I still have no idea why the military hasn't developed an omni connector for engine swaps. A dozen bolts, one big plug that contains all your electrical and fuel delivery (obviously isolating those two specifically to opposite ends of the plug and remember liquid fuel isn't nearly as flammable as gas fuel) so it takes ONE guy all of 30 minutes to swap an engine.

Trust me, I'm an engineer! (no really, I am!)

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 08:01 AM

Phew.... it´s been a while.
Where´s the Zeus-X? :D

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 08:04 AM

View PostEns, on 21 April 2016 - 08:01 AM, said:

Phew.... it´s been a while.
Where´s the Zeus-X? Posted Image


It's already in the game as the ZEU-6S®. Take a closer look at the shoulders.

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 08:07 AM

View Postdervishx5, on 21 April 2016 - 08:04 AM, said:


It's already in the game as the ZEU-6S®. Take a closer look at the shoulders.

That reminds me.

Can we revive the MC custom geometry discussion?
Cause there are soooo many things they could be selling to us right now!

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 08:28 AM

View PostCD LoreHammer Lord, on 21 April 2016 - 07:54 AM, said:

Exactly!

Why ship a dozen different replacement legs when you can ship a dozen of the same leg?

I still have no idea why the military hasn't developed an omni connector for engine swaps. A dozen bolts, one big plug that contains all your electrical and fuel delivery (obviously isolating those two specifically to opposite ends of the plug and remember liquid fuel isn't nearly as flammable as gas fuel) so it takes ONE guy all of 30 minutes to swap an engine.

Trust me, I'm an engineer! (no really, I am!)



I'd use two colour coded plugs, with opposite connection capabilities, Red for power and green for fuel, just to truly make it idiot proof... never know when some 80 IQ riflemen is going to be the one doing the work....

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 09:07 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 21 April 2016 - 08:07 AM, said:

That reminds me.

Can we revive the MC custom geometry discussion?
Cause there are soooo many things they could be selling to us right now!

as long as it's not tied to the "S" Models. I'm still pushing to get them to change the Collectors pack to a medallion, which wouldn't work with the old custom geos.

View PostMetus regem, on 21 April 2016 - 08:28 AM, said:



I'd use two colour coded plugs, with opposite connection capabilities, Red for power and green for fuel, just to truly make it idiot proof... never know when some 80 IQ riflemen is going to be the one doing the work....

80 IQ rifleman? I'd be more worried about that IVY League ROTC Officer who never screwed in his own light bulb before...... (your average shade tree mechanic is seldom Einstein....)

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 21 April 2016 - 09:07 AM.


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Posted 21 April 2016 - 09:14 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 21 April 2016 - 09:07 AM, said:

as long as it's not tied to the "S" Models. I'm still pushing to get them to change the Collectors pack to a medallion, which wouldn't work with the old custom geos.


80 IQ rifleman? I'd be more worried about that IVY League ROTC Officer who never screwed in his own light bulb before...... (your average shade tree mechanic is seldom Einstein....)

The end goal of every engineer should be to make it idiot proof....

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 09:17 AM

View PostCD LoreHammer Lord, on 21 April 2016 - 09:14 AM, said:

The end goal of every engineer should be to make it idiot officer proof....

FTFY

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 09:27 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 21 April 2016 - 09:07 AM, said:

as long as it's not tied to the "S" Models. I'm still pushing to get them to change the Collectors pack to a medallion, which wouldn't work with the old custom geos.


80 IQ rifleman? I'd be more worried about that IVY League ROTC Officer who never screwed in his own light bulb before...... (your average shade tree mechanic is seldom Einstein....)



Hey now, I was honorably discharged at the rank of Captain (O-3).... Granted I wasn't Ivy league, and I have very much screwed in my own light bulbs... but still I've seen riflemen look down the barrels of their own weapons while the mag was still in....

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 09:28 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 21 April 2016 - 09:27 AM, said:



Hey now, I was honorably discharged at the rank of Captain (O-3).... Granted I wasn't Ivy league, and I have very much screwed in my own light bulbs... but still I've seen riflemen look down the barrels of their own weapons while the mag was still in....

there's a reason for most of modern military history officers weren't given rifles. Just sayin! Posted Image

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 09:28 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 21 April 2016 - 09:17 AM, said:

FTFY

Synonyms?

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 09:29 AM

View PostCD LoreHammer Lord, on 21 April 2016 - 09:28 AM, said:

Cinnamons?

FTFY2

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 09:30 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 21 April 2016 - 09:28 AM, said:

there's a reason for most of modern military history officers weren't given rifles. Just sayin! Posted Image



Then again, I'm Canadian by birth, so I guess I'm exempt from idiot US officers.... Granted I served in the US Army, and I was quicker on the uptake than some of my peers...

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 09:30 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 21 April 2016 - 09:29 AM, said:

FTFY2

Mmmmmm, cinnamon rolls....

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