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[Pariah Devalis]

CK16, on 20 June 2016 - 12:20 PM, said:

ODANAN! Please

Also, so assuming after the next Clan Omni we get an Innersphere mech, you Spheroid's, what is most needed ( not demanded) mech type you guys need?

Not a sphereoid, but light mechs, in general, need some love. I am not expert in IS mechs, but I'm sure they have plenty to choose from. Clans still have the Fire Falcon, as well.

[Odanan]

Pariah Devalis, on 20 June 2016 - 01:40 PM, said:

Not a sphereoid, but light mechs, in general, need some love. I am not expert in IS mechs, but I'm sure they have plenty to choose from. Clans still have the Fire Falcon, as well.

And the Fire Moth, which is out of the game only because of technical issues.

[Pariah Devalis]

Odanan, on 20 June 2016 - 01:44 PM, said:

And the Fire Moth, which is out of the game only because of technical issues.

Only reason why I didn't mention it. Damn, I wish we could have the 'moth!

[Ovion]

Metus regem, on 20 June 2016 - 01:02 PM, said:

L.A.M.'s and Qauds have no showing right now, but Russ is against doing them, either he hates them or is afraid of them for some reason or another...

I would say, it's an obnoxious amount of work for Quads, and LAMs would potentially break the game engine outright.

Throw in it's just not economically viable, and his want to distance himself from the concept, and have nothing to do with them is entirely understandable.

It'd easily be 3-6 months work on each system (clans were an estimated 6 months work, and each system would be comparable) as well, for the return of:
6-12 Quad Mechs (Later 20-30, though this requires 3100+ and QuadVees, which would potentially be as much work again for 5 mechs total.)

3-9 LAMs. (3 'yes', 3 WoB in 3077-3080 or so, 1 is a quad and experimental, and 2 are experimential)

[TheArisen]

CK16, on 20 June 2016 - 12:20 PM, said:

ODANAN! Please

Also, so assuming after the next Clan Omni we get an Innersphere mech, you Spheroid's, what is most needed ( not demanded) mech type you guys need?

The Assassin would expand the 40t slot, currently there's only the Cicada. Also, the Banshee is the only IS 95 tonner so obviously I say Nightstar.

[Metus regem]

Ovion, on 20 June 2016 - 01:52 PM, said:

I would say, it's an obnoxious amount of work for Quads, and LAMs would potentially break the game engine outright.

Throw in it's just not economically viable, and his want to distance himself from the concept, and have nothing to do with them is entirely understandable.

It'd easily be 3-6 months work on each system (clans were an estimated 6 months work, and each system would be comparable) as well, for the return of:
6-12 Quad Mechs (Later 20-30, though this requires 3100+ and QuadVees, which would potentially be as much work again for 5 mechs total.)

3-9 LAMs. (3 'yes', 3 WoB in 3077-3080 or so, 1 is a quad and experimental, and 2 are experimential)

Oh I know... doesn't change the fact that I love L.A.M.'s...

Still L.A.M.'s wouldn't need to have the ability to mode change, just offer up WiGE movement and a constant state of "hover" in WiGE, with nerfed agility when not moving in WiGE. Have them hard locked at 171km/h when going flat out in WiGE (they should have 15 hex movement for the Stinger/Wasp/Phoenix Hawk L.A.M.'s), also make it a requirement that they move 150m in a strait line every 10-15 seconds to maintain WiGE...

[Virlutris]

Odanan, on 20 June 2016 - 01:44 PM, said:

And the Fire Moth, which is out of the game only because of technical issues.

Pariah Devalis, on 20 June 2016 - 01:52 PM, said:

Only reason why I didn't mention it. Damn, I wish we could have the 'moth!

We can have it, but we'd have to drop the MASC to do it. I'd rather have it, even without, and it would still be the fastest mech in the game. I'm not gonna dredge those numbers up again.

I'm all for an extra free ton, but I don't think everybody's willing to give it up ("but it's supposed to ..."). Plenty of folks think the MASC makes the mech here. In TT, the argument makes more sense.

Here in MWO? Nothings's going much over 170 anyway (nothing since Speed Tweak nerf). FireMoth is now the only one that can eke out that speed. The 20-tonner's more useful here being in game without MASC, than being held out because MASC won't work on a 20-tonner with an XL200.

Why keep a mech out for a 1-ton piece of equipment that it can't use?

Dump it pl0x, gib Dasher plz.

#FireMoth2016 #DumpMASC

Edited by Virlutris, 20 June 2016 - 04:57 PM.

[Ace Selin]

Metus regem, on 20 June 2016 - 01:58 PM, said:

I love L.A.M.'s...

I love Lamb too

[Bishop Steiner]

Metus regem, on 20 June 2016 - 01:58 PM, said:

Oh I know... doesn't change the fact that I love L.A.M.'s...

Still L.A.M.'s wouldn't need to have the ability to mode change, just offer up WiGE movement and a constant state of "hover" in WiGE, with nerfed agility when not moving in WiGE. Have them hard locked at 171km/h when going flat out in WiGE (they should have 15 hex movement for the Stinger/Wasp/Phoenix Hawk L.A.M.'s), also make it a requirement that they move 150m in a strait line every 10-15 seconds to maintain WiGE...

LAMs = LameAssMechs?

[CK16]

Bishop Steiner, on 20 June 2016 - 07:11 PM, said:

LAMs = LameAssMechs?

OH SNAP!

[Virlutris]

Bishop Steiner, on 20 June 2016 - 07:11 PM, said:

LAMs = LameAssMechs?

Shots fired!

[CK16]

Damnit! I had a good 1k post planned for here but got draged into a MM rage argument.....



Noooooo!

[xVLFBERHxT]

again, charger?

[Metus regem]

Virlutris, on 21 June 2016 - 05:26 AM, said:

Shots fired!

Shots? No...

[Ovion]

Metus regem, on 21 June 2016 - 12:30 PM, said:

Shots? No...

What's that from?

[Metus regem]

Ovion, on 21 June 2016 - 12:38 PM, said:

What's that from?

Macross Frontiers, better than Macross 7, but that's not saying much.... Still I want to see Delta.

Anyways the ship firing the beam is a Battle class command carrier.

[Virlutris]

Metus regem, on 21 June 2016 - 12:30 PM, said:

Shots? No...

Yes, I'm geeky enough to imagine the following sequence on the bridge with that clip.

Cdr: Captain, aerospace forces are reporting 45 pct casualties. Hull breach on Deck 8, fires in Sections A, D, E, and F, Sir. Engineering reports minor damage, reactor output at 86 pct.

Capt: Prepare to fire the main gun. Target the enemy fleet. Recall Aerospace forces.

Lt: Preparing to fire the main gun, Sir!

Cdr: Yes, Sir. Aerospace forces clear of the firing trajectory, reporting 64 pct casualties.

Lt: Main gun online Sir!

Capt: Fire the main gun.

Lt: Firing main gun, Sir!

Capt: Report.

Lt: Enemy forces have sustained catastophic damage, Sir!

Cdr: Aerospace reports 84 pct casualties, Sir. Engineering reports multiple fires after firing the main gun. Damage conrtol teams have the fires 34 pct controlled.

Capt: Very good, Lieutenant. Commander, deploy reserve fighters to clean up the enemy stragglers, and keep me posted on the damage control.

I'll be in my cabin getting started on our report to Command. Send the casualty report to me there once it's finalized.

Commander, you have the bridge.

Cdr: Yes Sir, reserve fighters deployed. I'll keep you posted Sir.

Lieutanant, bring us around to Starboard to begin recovery ops ...

/daydream

Edited by Virlutris, 21 June 2016 - 01:46 PM.

[Metus regem]

Virlutris, on 21 June 2016 - 01:40 PM, said:

Yes, I'm geeky enough to imagine the following sequence on the bridge with that clip.

Cdr: Captain, aerospace forces are reporting 45 pct casualties. Hull breach on Deck 8, fires in Sections A, D, E, and F, Sir. Engineering reports minor damage, reactor output at 86 pct.

Capt: Prepare to fire the main gun. Target the enemy fleet. Recall Aerospace forces.

Lt: Preparing to fire the main gun, Sir!

Cdr: Yes, Sir. Aerospace forces clear of the firing trajectory, reporting 64 pct casualties.

Lt: Main gun online Sir!

Capt: Fire the main gun.

Lt: Firing main gun, Sir!

Capt: Report.

Lt: Enemy forces have sustained catastophic damage, Sir!

Cdr: Aerospace reports 84 pct casualties, Sir. Engineering reports multiple fires after firing the main gun. Damage conrtol teams have the fires 34 pct controlled.

Capt: Very good, Lieutenant. Commander, deploy reserve fighters to clean up the enemy stragglers, and keep me posted on the damage control.

I'll be in my cabin getting started on our report to Command. Send the casualty report to me there once it's finalized.

Commander, you have the bridge.

Cdr: Yes Sir, reserve fighters deployed. I'll keep you posted Sir.

Lieutanant, bring us around to Starboard to begin recovery ops ...

/daydream

heh not even..

Cdr. "Captain hostile fleet detected at 100,000 miles, shale I have a firing solution prepared for the main gun?"

Capt. "Yes."

Cdr. "Firing solution prepared Captain."

Capt: "Fire."

Cdr. "Firing." "Captain, 85% of hostile fleet destroyed, they are turning and running."

Capt. "Launch Valkyries to intercept and destroy the stragglers, the Bridge is yours Commander."

[Virlutris]

Metus regem, on 21 June 2016 - 01:54 PM, said:

heh not even..

Cdr. "Captain hostile fleet detected at 100,000 miles, shale I have a firing solution prepared for the main gun?"

Capt. "Yes."

Cdr. "Firing solution prepared Captain."

Capt: "Fire."

Cdr. "Firing." "Captain, 85% of hostile fleet destroyed, they are turning and running."

Capt. "Launch Valkyries to intercept and destroy the stragglers, the Bridge is yours Commander."

See, this seems like the more expedient route.

So often in these series, the main gun is handled like a weapon of desperate last resort. As long as your not being utterly reckless, use the thing. It's war. Shoot 'em. Less loss of life and resources on your own side.

[Bishop Steiner]

Metus regem, on 21 June 2016 - 01:54 PM, said:

heh not even..

Cdr. "Captain hostile fleet detected at 100,000 miles, shale I have a firing solution prepared for the main gun?"

Capt. "Yes."

Cdr. "Firing solution prepared Captain."

Capt: "Fire."

Cdr. "Firing." "Captain, 85% of hostile fleet destroyed, they are turning and running."

Capt. "Launch Valkyries to intercept and destroy the stragglers, the Bridge is yours Commander."

LAM Pilots... are LosersAsMechwarriors