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#14401 Odanan

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 06:07 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 31 August 2016 - 02:40 PM, said:

About a month give or take.

Hmmm.. I may be mistaken, but I think that was not what the guy asked.

Let's examine the previous examples (the OP has records for all mechs).

Concept art/official announcement dates:
  • 30/jan/2015: Kodiak pack announced in Townhall. Two days later, the concept art is released.
  • 26/feb/2016: Phoenix Hawk announced in Townhall.
  • 01/apr/2016: Viper announced in Townhall.
  • 19/apr/2016: Cyclops standalone pack revealed.
  • 29/apr/2016: Night Gyr announced in Townhall.
  • 13/jun/2016: Huntsman standalone pack revealed.
  • 07/jul/2016: Linebacker standalone pack revealed.
  • 05/aug/2016: Marauder IIC standalone pack revealed.
Release dates:
  • Kodiak standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 17th May, 2016. (August 2nd for MCs, September 6th for C-Bills)
  • Phoenix Hawk standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 21st June, 2016. (September 6th for MCs, October 4th for C-Bills)
  • Viper standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 19th July, 2016.
  • Cyclops standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 23rd August, 2016.
  • Night Gyr standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 20th September, 2016.
  • Huntsman standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 18th October, 2016.
  • Linebacker standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 15th November, 2016.
  • Marauder IIC standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 13rd December, 2016.

View PostRock Roller, on 31 August 2016 - 02:38 PM, said:

How long is from the time one pre sales ends before another is announced? To tell you the truth I haven't paid attention in the past.

When the Early Adopters rewards end, in a few days the next mech is announced. They are usually separated by ~1 month.

But since the Phoenix pack, the pre-sales don't end anymore (look in the Store page).

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 08:34 PM

View PostOdanan, on 31 August 2016 - 06:07 PM, said:

Hmmm.. I may be mistaken, but I think that was not what the guy asked.

Let's examine the previous examples (the OP has records for all mechs).

Concept art/official announcement dates:
  • 30/jan/2015: Kodiak pack announced in Townhall. Two days later, the concept art is released.
  • 26/feb/2016: Phoenix Hawk announced in Townhall.
  • 01/apr/2016: Viper announced in Townhall.
  • 19/apr/2016: Cyclops standalone pack revealed.
  • 29/apr/2016: Night Gyr announced in Townhall.
  • 13/jun/2016: Huntsman standalone pack revealed.
  • 07/jul/2016: Linebacker standalone pack revealed.
  • 05/aug/2016: Marauder IIC standalone pack revealed.
Release dates:
  • Kodiak standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 17th May, 2016. (August 2nd for MCs, September 6th for C-Bills)
  • Phoenix Hawk standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 21st June, 2016. (September 6th for MCs, October 4th for C-Bills)
  • Viper standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 19th July, 2016.
  • Cyclops standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 23rd August, 2016.
  • Night Gyr standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 20th September, 2016.
  • Huntsman standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 18th October, 2016.
  • Linebacker standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 15th November, 2016.
  • Marauder IIC standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 13rd December, 2016.


When the Early Adopters rewards end, in a few days the next mech is announced. They are usually separated by ~1 month.

But since the Phoenix pack, the pre-sales don't end anymore (look in the Store page).


Thank you Odanan. That confirms what I suspected. I have only recently started paying attention to such things.

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 12:47 AM

View PostOdanan, on 31 August 2016 - 06:07 PM, said:

Hmmm.. I may be mistaken, but I think that was not what the guy asked.

Let's examine the previous examples (the OP has records for all mechs).

Concept art/official announcement dates:
  • 30/jan/2015: Kodiak pack announced in Townhall. Two days later, the concept art is released.
  • 26/feb/2016: Phoenix Hawk announced in Townhall.
  • 01/apr/2016: Viper announced in Townhall.
  • 19/apr/2016: Cyclops standalone pack revealed.
  • 29/apr/2016: Night Gyr announced in Townhall.
  • 13/jun/2016: Huntsman standalone pack revealed.
  • 07/jul/2016: Linebacker standalone pack revealed.
  • 05/aug/2016: Marauder IIC standalone pack revealed.
Release dates:
  • Kodiak standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 17th May, 2016. (August 2nd for MCs, September 6th for C-Bills)
  • Phoenix Hawk standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 21st June, 2016. (September 6th for MCs, October 4th for C-Bills)
  • Viper standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 19th July, 2016.
  • Cyclops standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 23rd August, 2016.
  • Night Gyr standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 20th September, 2016.
  • Huntsman standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 18th October, 2016.
  • Linebacker standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 15th November, 2016.
  • Marauder IIC standalone pack: pre-order delivered in 13rd December, 2016.

When the Early Adopters rewards end, in a few days the next mech is announced. They are usually separated by ~1 month.

But since the Phoenix pack, the pre-sales don't end anymore (look in the Store page).


Come on Odanan, did you forget this is PGI? A month is not that farfetched. Posted Image

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 02:08 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 26 August 2016 - 08:43 AM, said:

What Warhammer IICs with Wolfs Dragoons? Source?

It was pretty blunt sarcasm. 3025 has no clan 'mechs -- classic or otherwise. That's part of it's appeal to some of us. PGI making 5 clan 'mechs in a row suggests to me they're probably not excessively focused on milking the 3025 crowd before they go play HBS's game.

#14405 Odanan

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 04:12 AM

View PostUncle Totty, on 01 September 2016 - 12:47 AM, said:

Come on Odanan, did you forget this is PGI? A month is not that farfetched. Posted Image

Yes, we have ~1 mech per month, but I don't know if it was that what he asked...

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 09:22 AM

Hmmm, wondering what the next mech's gonna be.

This isn't: "OMWowzors I can haz mechpack nao!"

Just, I wonder what'what's coming down the line next.

If it's not an Unseen (WSP/STG/VLK, Crusader, Longbow), I'm calling Imp.

I've got no read on it if it's an Unseen. I'd like to see the lights, but while I could outhink it a bit to try and guess at PGI's decision, but I'm not gonna do it.

Hmmmmmmmm ...

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 09:27 AM

Was the concept art for the charger not already done by pgi?

#14408 Odanan

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 09:31 AM

View PostTrapJaw80, on 01 September 2016 - 09:27 AM, said:

Was the concept art for the charger not already done by pgi?

Apparently yes. (like the others put on polls)

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 09:32 AM

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 09:36 AM

View PostTrapJaw80, on 01 September 2016 - 09:32 AM, said:

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Soon! (I hope so)

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 09:40 AM

View PostTrapJaw80, on 01 September 2016 - 09:27 AM, said:

Was the concept art for the charger not already done by pgi?


Oh yeah, I'd totally forgotten. That was the Zeus/Cyclops/(apparently)Charger poll.

I'd been thinking that a Charger/Hatamoto-chi would be neat. Sort of Daboku/Mauler, but with more "flair."

I saw the Imp on Sarna today, and thought it seemed like a good fit for variants and tech availability.

I don't mind a bit more variety to the speculation at all ;)

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 10:09 AM

View PostVirlutris, on 01 September 2016 - 09:40 AM, said:

Oh yeah, I'd totally forgotten. That was the Zeus/Cyclops/(apparently)Charger poll.

I'd been thinking that a Charger/Hatamoto-chi would be neat. Sort of Daboku/Mauler, but with more "flair."

I saw the Imp on Sarna today, and thought it seemed like a good fit for variants and tech availability.

I don't mind a bit more variety to the speculation at all Posted Image

The Imp is so obscure (and ugly) that I would prefer other assault mechs first, like the Charger, Longbow and Crockett.
For a later timeline, Nightstar, Pillager, Gunslinger and Fafnir.

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 10:23 AM

View PostOdanan, on 01 September 2016 - 10:09 AM, said:

The Imp is so obscure (and ugly) that I would prefer other assault mechs first, like the Charger, Longbow and Crockett.
For a later timeline, Nightstar, Pillager, Gunslinger and Fafnir.


Ugly, you say?

Alex has taken on that challenge repeatedly, and I like his work thus far. Even his "ugly" mechs are nice :D

Obscure? In lore, yes. A great many of this games player's aren't steeped enough in lore to know the difference. (I'll own that for myself, by the way)

Russ has said before that if they think it would add something cool to the game, they'll do it. The question morphs into what they think is cool enough to work on, and what it brings to the game. Often enough, it's "What can Alex do with it?" ;)

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 10:36 AM

View PostVirlutris, on 01 September 2016 - 10:23 AM, said:

Ugly, you say?

Alex has taken on that challenge repeatedly, and I like his work thus far. Even his "ugly" mechs are nice Posted Image

Obscure? In lore, yes. A great many of this games player's aren't steeped enough in lore to know the difference. (I'll own that for myself, by the way)

Russ has said before that if they think it would add something cool to the game, they'll do it. The question morphs into what they think is cool enough to work on, and what it brings to the game. Often enough, it's "What can Alex do with it?" Posted Image

I know, Alex can do miracles. Even so, the Imp would be kind of boring (for gameplay).

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 10:37 AM

View PostOdanan, on 01 September 2016 - 10:09 AM, said:

The Imp is so obscure (and ugly) that I would prefer other assault mechs first, like the Charger, Longbow and Crockett.
For a later timeline, Nightstar, Pillager, Gunslinger and Viking.


FTFY

But in all seriousness, the Fafnir is the one mech I really don't want to see, doubly so if it comes with the (i)HGR's.... We think things are bad now, just wait till the IS can have (22) 25 damage PPFLD guns at close range, that still do 10 damage out to GR range, before dropping off to nothing at 1200m....

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 10:52 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 01 September 2016 - 10:37 AM, said:


FTFY

But in all seriousness, the Fafnir is the one mech I really don't want to see, doubly so if it comes with the (i)HGR's.... We think things are bad now, just wait till the IS can have (22) 25 damage PPFLD guns at close range, that still do 10 damage out to GR range, before dropping off to nothing at 1200m....


Well I do kind of have a soft spot for the Fafnir because it's one of the last & best mechs you get in MW4 mercs, fighting alongside Prince Peter & taking down Nondi Steiner.

However I recognize HGRs would be too much in this game. (Let's go Nightstar!)

Assuming the art is done for the Charger because it was in a poll (I remember seeing it %100) then that would make it a strong contender for the next mech.

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 11:00 AM

View PostOdanan, on 01 September 2016 - 09:31 AM, said:

Apparently yes. (like the others put on polls)

This would please me. Not quite as much as an Assassin, but Charger and Crusader are choice 2a and 2b, for me.

Well.... The Thug would please my inner fanboi more, but I feel the Charger would be more a more viable, interesting and diverse translation into MWO. Where the Thug would be more about having it for HBS.

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 12:32 PM

View PostVirlutris, on 01 September 2016 - 09:22 AM, said:

Hmmm, wondering what the next mech's gonna be.

This isn't: "OMWowzors I can haz mechpack nao!"

Just, I wonder what'what's coming down the line next.

If it's not an Unseen (WSP/STG/VLK, Crusader, Longbow), I'm calling Imp.

I've got no read on it if it's an Unseen. I'd like to see the lights, but while I could outhink it a bit to try and guess at PGI's decision, but I'm not gonna do it.

Hmmmmmmmm ...

View PostOdanan, on 01 September 2016 - 10:09 AM, said:

The Imp is so obscure (and ugly) that I would prefer other assault mechs first, like the Charger, Longbow and Crockett.
For a later timeline, Nightstar, Pillager, Gunslinger and Fafnir.

View PostBishop Steiner, on 01 September 2016 - 11:00 AM, said:

This would please me. Not quite as much as an Assassin, but Charger and Crusader are choice 2a and 2b, for me.

Well.... The Thug would please my inner fanboi more, but I feel the Charger would be more a more viable, interesting and diverse translation into MWO. Where the Thug would be more about having it for HBS.

Those are all fine choices that I would be happy with, but I still want to see the Devastator at some point. Posted Image

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 12:37 PM

View PostWarHippy, on 01 September 2016 - 12:32 PM, said:



Those are all fine choices that I would be happy with, but I still want to see the Devastator at some point. Posted Image


http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Devastator

Seems like an early, slow, IS Kodiak.

I'd be okay with that :D

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 12:46 PM

View PostVirlutris, on 01 September 2016 - 12:37 PM, said:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Devastator

Seems like an early, slow, IS Kodiak.

I'd be okay with that Posted Image



The Devastator isn't that slow, it's just as fast as an Atlas, so could see 62.7km/h with a 360 series engine, same as an Atlas... Mind you, you couldn't cram in both Gauss Rifles, 2 PPC (likely changed out for LPL's knowing this community) and 4 MLas with a 360 standard.... I mean you do only get 36t for weapons an equipment using a 360 standard with Endo... But still not bad!





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