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#19401 Sereglach

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 11:11 AM

View PostArnold The Governator, on 08 July 2018 - 10:38 AM, said:

*snip*

First off, good luck on any future startups? However, yeah, as I said before, not commenting on the opinions or politics of it . . . and trust me, I have some strong ones.

Secondly, I also quoted the post Tina made on the last page, with direct link. It hasn't stopped the speculation of some people. We could be pleasantly surprised, but that's a bit of a long shot pipe-dream.

#19402 FLG 01

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 11:15 AM

Even if they don't release the Classics right now, it makes economic sense releasing Mechs which they can use for MW:5 (and HBS). I mean the Classics could be the big bang exclusive to MW:5, but there are other Mechs...

... Mechs like the Lancelot or the Flashman were around during the FCCW and in 3025, so they are a good choice for both games.
And then there are the other TRO:3025 Mechs, like the OST-Series, Charger, or the Hermes II. They were around in both eras, too.

I am not sure if PGI is willing to release post-Clan Invasion Mechs like the Argus at this point, unless it is a huge seller. But who knows?

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 05:28 PM

View PostArnold The Governator, on 08 July 2018 - 10:38 AM, said:

That would make sense to why I see Canadian indie game companies like Torn Banner have managed to stayed alive and afloat for so long. I initially thought that their company would go bankrupt after the release of Mirage and how much of a colossal failure it was. Hell, I might as well start an entertainment company over in Canada if I get subsidy from the government.


I read on a thread where everyone was asking where the heck the next mech was, that Tina stated that PGI plans their mechs in month in advance. I'll quote it here:

"Just wanted to note that upcoming 'Mechs are locked into production months ahead of their public announcements and are not altered once locked into our development schedule. The 'Mech announcement delay is simply to finish up a pattern on the pre-order concept.

But thank you for your patience!!" - Tina Benoit

If that is really true then I wish they would bend their own rules, since I won't be throwing my money at them anytime soon if they have the clearing now from the agreement to release the rest of the nuseen. At least for the remaining IICs if they are planning to wait on releasing the Crusader, Longbow, Wasp, etc at Mech Con later this year for the MW5 announcement.

It 's not a matter of bending rules. It takes time to create the art, approve it, create the model, do the meshes, add the skins, etc. Plan hardpoints, etc. There is no way anyone sane would have done the prep work before the settlement ink dried (and that is making the giant assumption they have the rights to make anymore Macross Unseen, which is NOT stated anywhere), since if the settlement fell through that is a lot of wasted resources. Just having the Art is not an overnight thing, even for Alex.

#19404 Odanan

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 05:28 AM

So... today?

#19405 SuperFunkTron

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 08:05 AM

I can't wait for them to announce the IS mech so we can get back to figuring out the next clan mech! I am still waiting impatiently for the Phantom, Pouncer, and Grendel, but I have no idea where they stand in terms of likelihood since the incubus and hellfire somehow beat them out.

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 09:07 AM

It'll be something no one expects.

Like the Bandersnatch ;)

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 09:45 AM

View PostOdanan, on 08 July 2018 - 02:23 AM, said:

Wild dream: with the end of the law suit, PGI suddenly decided: "Scrap that Argus, let's release a Project Phoenix II."

So Alex Iglesias is not doing 1 single repaint, but drawing 4 mechs and their special camos:
  • Wasp for light mech;
  • Chameleon for medium mech;
  • Crusader for heavy mech;
  • Longbow for assault mech.
PS: the Chameleon was in the Battletech 2nd edition, but didn't have a miniature; and it's just a 5 tons heavier Phoenix Hawk. Long Bow didn't feature in the Battletech box, but it's clearly a Macross Unseen mech, so it makes sense add it here.



I like the cut of your jib, sir.

I haven't bought a mech since the Javelin. Will this next release tickle my grognard fancy? I sure hope so. Any of the mechs you listed would do just fine. I honestly think the Valkyrie would be great, and could reuse some of the Phoenix Hawk art (so could the Stinger and Wasp).

Cheers!

#19408 MechWpnsTech

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 10:00 AM

can we get answer about the lawsuit and where or not the mech's involved are going to be released..? Posted Image

#19409 Uncle Totty

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 01:12 PM

View PostOdanan, on 09 July 2018 - 05:28 AM, said:

So... today?

It looks like... no? (This is odd, even for PGI.)

#19410 Valdarion Silarius

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 01:30 PM

View PostOdanan, on 09 July 2018 - 05:28 AM, said:

So... today?

View PostUncle Totty, on 09 July 2018 - 01:12 PM, said:

It looks like... no? (This is odd, even for PGI.)

Don't worry guys it's going to be the Junior.

Posted Image

The reason why they are delaying the release is the unsurpassable explosion of hype that this thing is going to rock the forums with. They were taking the time out to texture jeans as an optional camo scheme so that everyone can experience fashion the right way in Mechwarrior Online.

Edited by Arnold The Governator, 09 July 2018 - 01:31 PM.


#19411 Virlutris

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 01:31 PM

Nah, they're just operating on the Soon™ TZ.

Thye'll release it when they're done with the art stuff, whenever that is :/


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Posted 09 July 2018 - 01:38 PM

This delay really worries me that they may be once again pulling out 4-mechs mechpack.


.....sigh.


Last time they did were Civil War mechpacks, and the quality really suffered. Anyone remember Mad Cat II walking animation and general quality of Nightstar are tragic.


I really hope this is not the case.

#19413 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 01:57 PM

View PostTigerSharkman, on 09 July 2018 - 10:00 AM, said:

can we get answer about the lawsuit and where or not the mech's involved are going to be released..?

since most of these settlements have NDAs? The only way we will likely know is when(IF) any new ones are released. They have already stated they cannot talk about it beyond the posts we have already seen. To this point none of the released statements have actually implied the addition of any NEW Classic Unseens, but that they could (at least PGI, but likely CGL) continue to use the existing ones.

IF (very if) they can release new ones, we will likely find out if and when they are announced. And even the existing TT images for CGL are certainly too late to be added to the new Box Set. And TBH.... if PGI can release new Classic Unseen beyond the ones we already have... the best such use of them would be as content for MW5 and then released as a Project Phoenix type pack after. Since every 3025 era mech released before is one less to add dazzle and sizzle to MW5. (Hint... for good marketing, the more sizzle content you can add to a new product, the better the sales tend to be).

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 10:36 PM

View PostOdanan, on 09 July 2018 - 05:28 AM, said:

So... today?

Come on man, you know never on a Monday. Tomorrow.... if we are lucky.

View PostArnold The Governator, on 09 July 2018 - 01:30 PM, said:

Don't worry guys it's going to be the Junior.

Posted Image

The reason why they are delaying the release is the unsurpassable explosion of hype that this thing is going to rock the forums with. They were taking the time out to texture jeans as an optional camo scheme so that everyone can experience fashion the right way in Mechwarrior Online.

Woah! Way to bring in the obscure! Although, it looks kind of...thick for an elemental suit. XD

#19415 Marauder3D

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:55 AM

COUGH!

How about a mech release announcement!

COUGH!!

#19416 Virlutris

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 10:00 AM

View PostMarauder3D, on 10 July 2018 - 09:55 AM, said:

COUGH!

How about a mech release announcement!

COUGH!!


You should get that cough checked out Soon™, before the condition "develops" into something worse. ;)

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 10:01 AM

Hah. Been at least 20 years since a doctor told me to cough. Maybe I should get checked out.

*If only I had an announcement to read while I waited in the doctor's office*

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 10:17 AM

View PostMarauder3D, on 10 July 2018 - 10:01 AM, said:

Hah. Been at least 20 years since a doctor told me to cough. Maybe I should get checked out.

*If only I had an announcement to read while I waited in the doctor's office*

oh...didn't you hear? The Mech and Map Development Budget had to be used fighting yet another spurious Chaotic Pyrite lawsuit.

No mech for you!

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 10:35 AM

I wish I had ASCII art for a crying panda.

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 11:08 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 10 July 2018 - 10:17 AM, said:

oh...didn't you hear? The Mech and Map Development Budget had to be used fighting yet another spurious Chaotic Pyrite lawsuit.

No mech for you!


"Chaotic Pyrite" LOL

QFT





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