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#19561 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 07:14 PM

So...something I am happy to be able to announce

Very challenging assignment, being a line artist and being a bit of a time crunch job. Still much to learn on the digital front, even for just editing.

That said, still my first official accepted piece of work for Battletech. It can be found on pg 61 of the new (released GenCon 2018) "Shattered Fortress" Sourcebook, by Catalyst Game Labs.

8"x12" pencil and ink on paper, digitally edited via GIMP SketchBook Pro and Photoshop.

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 03:26 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 06 August 2018 - 07:14 PM, said:

So...something I am happy to be able to announce

Very challenging assignment, being a line artist and being a bit of a time crunch job. Still much to learn on the digital front, even for just editing.

That said, still my first official accepted piece of work for Battletech. It can be found on pg 61 of the new (released GenCon 2018) "Shattered Fortress" Sourcebook, by Catalyst Game Labs.

8"x12" pencil and ink on paper, digitally edited via GIMP SketchBook Pro and Photoshop.

Wow! Great job!!

You made it! Hopefully, many more assignments will come.

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 05:52 PM

Hate to bring this up, but CGL's Marauder looks much better than MWO's:

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(Ironically, it also has the better geometry for MWO!)

Edited by FLG 01, 07 August 2018 - 11:01 PM.


#19564 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 07:35 PM

View PostFLG 01, on 07 August 2018 - 05:52 PM, said:

Hate to bring this up, but CGL's Marauder looks much better MWO's:

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(Ironically, it also has the better geometry for MWO!)

been saying this for like.... 2 yrs. (though the AC still needs to be smaller and the PPC pods need to be larger)

#19565 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 11:04 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 07 August 2018 - 07:35 PM, said:

been saying this for like.... 2 yrs. (though the AC still needs to be smaller and the PPC pods need to be larger)

AC smaller?

Uhh, i think you mean AC BIGGER! The bigger the better!

#19566 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 02:18 AM

I'm probably one of the few people that actually likes MWO's Marauder. PGI's design essentially made me warm up to the mech.

I do like CGL's version though as well too. The only one I don't care for is the original artwork. I think CGL's redesign could have moved the cannon to the correct torso location, but really we know why they didn't do that Posted Image

Either way, even if MWO's Marauder isn't exactly what people wanted, I feel it could have been worse. It could have been the original Marauder concept art for the game (or maybe just a fun exercise not meant to be in the game, not sure).

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Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 08 August 2018 - 02:19 AM.


#19567 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:20 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 07 August 2018 - 11:04 PM, said:

AC smaller?

Uhh, i think you mean AC BIGGER! The bigger the better!

I play Battletech, not Final Fantasy. Proportion matters!

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:24 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 08 August 2018 - 02:18 AM, said:

I'm probably one of the few people that actually likes MWO's Marauder. PGI's design essentially made me warm up to the mech.

I do like CGL's version though as well too. The only one I don't care for is the original artwork. I think CGL's redesign could have moved the cannon to the correct torso location, but really we know why they didn't do that Posted Image

Either way, even if MWO's Marauder isn't exactly what people wanted, I feel it could have been worse. It could have been the original Marauder concept art for the game (or maybe just a fun exercise not meant to be in the game, not sure).

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that is simply the Project Phoenix "Reseen" Marauder. Which, IMO fit the aesthetic, and makes a heck of a lot more sense than the Unseen version ever did. And the MWO one (again, IMO) looks like a Turky given T-Rex arms. A fat waddly bumper boat redesign of a mech mean to be lean, and feral looking. Ugh. I love most of Alex's work, but IMO his Marauder is one of his worst. (do I need to add another IMO for clarity sake, since it seems most people miss the subjectivity of aesthetics?)

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:59 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 08 August 2018 - 06:20 AM, said:

I play Battletech, not Final Fantasy. Proportion matters!

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 08:06 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 06 August 2018 - 07:14 PM, said:

So...something I am happy to be able to announce

Very challenging assignment, being a line artist and being a bit of a time crunch job. Still much to learn on the digital front, even for just editing.

That said, still my first official accepted piece of work for Battletech. It can be found on pg 61 of the new (released GenCon 2018) "Shattered Fortress" Sourcebook, by Catalyst Game Labs.

8"x12" pencil and ink on paper, digitally edited via GIMP SketchBook Pro and Photoshop.


Congrats! Someone was kind enough to pick me up a hard copy of Shattered Fortress at GenCon, and I really enjoyed reading it. I also noticed that artwork, and any time a Kuritan takes a Gauss slug to the head, I smile a bit on the inside.

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 08:10 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 08 August 2018 - 02:18 AM, said:

I'm probably one of the few people that actually likes MWO's Marauder. PGI's design essentially made me warm up to the mech.

I do like CGL's version though as well too. The only one I don't care for is the original artwork. I think CGL's redesign could have moved the cannon to the correct torso location, but really we know why they didn't do that Posted Image

Either way, even if MWO's Marauder isn't exactly what people wanted, I feel it could have been worse. It could have been the original Marauder concept art for the game (or maybe just a fun exercise not meant to be in the game, not sure).


The Project Phoenix Marauder-5R is probably my favorite BattleTech mech. It looks alien, and somewhat insectoid, and very aggressive. A RAC-5 and twin PPCs in table top is some serious firepower. I understand that art is subjective, but that art belongs to us, not Disharmony Pyrite. Had we started using that back when it was released, there wouldn't have been the same amount of trouble that we have suffered.

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Cheers,

Mad

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 09:35 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 08 August 2018 - 02:18 AM, said:

I'm probably one of the few people that actually likes MWO's Marauder. PGI's design essentially made me warm up to the mech.

I love MWO's Marauder.

I actually find it better than the original Macross Unseen design.

View PostMarauder3D, on 08 August 2018 - 08:10 AM, said:

The Project Phoenix Marauder-5R is probably my favorite BattleTech mech. It looks alien, and somewhat insectoid, and very aggressive. A RAC-5 and twin PPCs in table top is some serious firepower. I understand that art is subjective, but that art belongs to us, not Disharmony Pyrite. Had we started using that back when it was released, there wouldn't have been the same amount of trouble that we have suffered.

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Cheers,

Mad

Except for the funky legs, I like this design a lot.

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 04:05 PM

View PostMarauder3D, on 08 August 2018 - 08:10 AM, said:

The Project Phoenix Marauder-5R is probably my favorite BattleTech mech. It looks alien, and somewhat insectoid, and very aggressive. A RAC-5 and twin PPCs in table top is some serious firepower. I understand that art is subjective, but that art belongs to us, not Disharmony Pyrite. Had we started using that back when it was released, there wouldn't have been the same amount of trouble that we have suffered.

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Cheers,

Mad

Glad to see another ProPho MAD fan. Have a MAD-3R version of it!
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(sorry for the rough line work...never have quite finished it up..at least not in that loadout)

View PostOdanan, on 08 August 2018 - 09:35 AM, said:

I love MWO's Marauder.

I actually find it better than the original Macross Unseen design.


Except for the funky legs, I like this design a lot.

How about when the legs get better proportioned?

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 08:12 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 08 August 2018 - 04:05 PM, said:

Glad to see another ProPho MAD fan. Have a MAD-3R version of it!
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(sorry for the rough line work...never have quite finished it up..at least not in that loadout)


How about when the legs get better proportioned?


Now, THAT is a mech I would much prefer over the version by Alex. Alex is a genius, mind you. But I prefer that Marauder 3R greatly to the wide bottomed version we have in game right now.

Well done!

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 08:52 PM

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tee hee. new toy!

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 04:49 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 11 August 2018 - 08:52 PM, said:

tee hee. new toy!

Now that's what I call a Big Mackie!

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 08:49 PM

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say hello to my Evil Eye!

I like her, she is fun.

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 02:55 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 21 August 2018 - 08:49 PM, said:

say hello to my Evil Eye!

I like her, she is fun.

I saw you in action yesterday! :)

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 06:50 AM

View PostOdanan, on 22 August 2018 - 02:55 AM, said:

I saw you in action yesterday! Posted Image

sadly not in my Evil Eye (hadn't been gifted her yet)....and boy howdy was my team... um...not interested in winning that match. Still, first match in...forever, 400 dmg and a solo kill on a hellfire on a match my team done went and got curbstomped? Could have gone worse I guess. Could have gone a lot better too though, lol. Was sad I never got to shoot at ya!

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 02:09 PM

So... PGI... you must be working on something new, right?

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I hope it's fully functional melee weapons for MWO.

Edited by Odanan, 22 August 2018 - 02:10 PM.






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