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[Butane9000]

I just realized with the Quickdraw we'll never see the Dervish. Specifically because the Quickdraw does everything the Dervish does while being 5 tons heavier.

Guess that means Kintaro or Hoplite for our 55 tonner :/

Edited by Butane9000, 15 June 2013 - 08:52 PM.

[Scrawny Cowboy]

Butane9000, on 15 June 2013 - 08:49 PM, said:

Guess that means Kintaro or Hoplite for our 55 tonner :/

*Shudder*

[Phoenix Branson]

Butane9000, on 15 June 2013 - 08:49 PM, said:

I just realized with the Quickdraw we'll never see the Dervish. Specifically because the Quickdraw does everything the Dervish does while being 5 tons heavier.

Guess that means Kintaro or Hoplite for our 55 tonner :/

I'm hoping for the Hoplite for the 55 tonner.
All the humanoid mechs are starting to look the same, we need more distinct chassis.

[Joachim Viltry]

Maverick01, on 15 June 2013 - 09:04 PM, said:

All the humanoid mechs are starting to look the same, we need more distinct chassis.

and Alex will do a Phenomenal job... then the 3d artists will take any curved lines he drew and make them a flat series of boxes. (I want to be surprised and impressed, but I'm not that naive.)

[Odanan]

Butane9000, on 15 June 2013 - 08:49 PM, said:

I just realized with the Quickdraw we'll never see the Dervish. Specifically because the Quickdraw does everything the Dervish does while being 5 tons heavier.

Guess that means Kintaro or Hoplite for our 55 tonner :/

The Dervish has at least 4 missile hardpoints. That's a lot more than the Quickdraw.
(But I agree they are in speed, mobility and weaponry, quite similar)

[Der BruzZzler von Wiesndoof]

Butane9000, on 15 June 2013 - 08:49 PM, said:

Guess that means Kintaro or Hoplite for our 55 tonner :/

[Odanan]

Updated the OP with more predictions about the next mechs. Anything missing?

[Adridos]

So it's Vindicator vs Kintaro for now?

Altough Hoplite is a 55 tonner and one of his actually canonically available variants does have ECM...

[Strum Wealh]

Maverick01, on 15 June 2013 - 09:04 PM, said:

I'm hoping for the Hoplite for the 55 tonner.
All the humanoid mechs are starting to look the same, we need more distinct chassis.

The Hoplite is a Dragoons-only 'Mech... and even they don't have the ability to construct them (to replace units lost to battle) without access to the Clan homeworlds (which also serves to indicate that no one else in the IS has the ability to construct them, either).
"Selected by the Wolf's Dragoons in the belief that the ancient design wouldn't arouse undue attention, it had the complete opposite effect, and only raised more questions as to the Dragoons' origins when they arrived in 3005. After the mercenaries cut ties with the Clan Homeworlds in 3020, they also lost access to replacement Hoplites, with attrition bringing the design close to extinction by the J***d."
By contrast, PGI has thus far been careful about choosing 'Mechs that can be produced or procured from within multiple factions with relative ease.
As such, it is very unlikely that the Hoplite would be chosen and implemented anytime soon, if ever.
For 55-tonners, that essentially leaves us with the Dervish and the Kintaro.
And if the Dervish is indeed out due to what similarity might be perceived between it and the Quickdraw...

[Bishop Steiner]

Maverick01, on 15 June 2013 - 09:04 PM, said:

I'm hoping for the Hoplite for the 55 tonner.
All the humanoid mechs are starting to look the same, we need more distinct chassis.

distinct, yes?

Good looking....ummmmmmmmmmm?
Useful? Not remotely. Another speed and hardpoint limited medium, oboy!

[Odanan]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 June 2013 - 05:26 AM, said:

distinct, yes?

Good looking....ummmmmmmmmmm?
Useful? Not remotely. Another speed and hardpoint limited medium, oboy!

I find the Hoplite very good looking. It's like a smaller King Crab.
(but looks is actually the only reason to have it in the game)

[Soy]

Maverick01, on 13 June 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

How much craziness can we expect if they announced the UrbanMech for the remaining light?

I'd bet my account on it.
(the Urbie being in that is)

[Odanan]

Adridos, on 16 June 2013 - 05:13 AM, said:

So it's Vindicator vs Kintaro for now?

Altough Hoplite is a 55 tonner and one of his actually canonically available variants does have ECM...

Isn't the HOP-4Bb available only to Clans?

[Adridos]

Odanan, on 16 June 2013 - 06:20 AM, said:

Isn't the HOP-4Bb available only to Clans?

Now that I've looked it up, yes it is...

[Bishop Steiner]

Odanan, on 16 June 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

I find the Hoplite very good looking. It's like a smaller King Crab.
(but looks is actually the only reason to have it in the game)

well let's use actual official art......
(ok, I know I cheat by not doing that for the Dervish and URbie, but... they ROCK!)


baby King Crab? Having trouble seeing it.

[Odanan]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 June 2013 - 08:04 AM, said:

well let's use actual official art......
(ok, I know I cheat by not doing that for the Dervish and URbie, but... they ROCK!)


baby King Crab? Having trouble seeing it.

You did cheat.
But as I view, any non-humanoid mech looks good.

[Adridos]

Odanan, on 16 June 2013 - 08:38 AM, said:

But as I view, any non-humanoid mech looks good.

Especially when treated by FD:

[Bishop Steiner]

Adridos, on 16 June 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

Especially when treated by FD:

Being a Cicada on steroids doesn't mean it is worth having. Since its half the speed and has less firepower.

[Herodes]

Odanan, on 16 June 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

I find the Hoplite very good looking. It's like a smaller King Crab.
(but looks is actually the only reason to have it in the game)

Dito to that. Let's skip it and go King Crab directly

Adridos, on 16 June 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

Especially when treated by FD:

That does look badass !!
Thanx for showing.

[Khanahar]

Bishop Steiner, on 13 June 2013 - 07:21 PM, said:

almost as much as when they announce the Deputy Dawg Hero

It would actually be a logical addition. Unique in a serious way, slow even if we gave it a generous engine cap, but balanced with something like 360 deg fast torso twist. Could actually make a decent brawler (assuming raised engine cap allowing it to make some decent speed).