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#4301 Otto Cannon

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 05:08 AM

View PostGhostrider0067, on 05 July 2013 - 10:56 AM, said:


To be honest, I prefer the Axeman's look:

Per the Sarna site, here's the list of melee designed mechs:

Notable 'Mechs equipping Hatchets include the Hatchetman, the Axman, the Buccaneer, the Berserker, and a variant of the Black Knight.

Could you imagine the fear a 100 ton Berserker armed with a hatchet would bring to the field if melee were an option?


I fully support the idea of getting these mechs into the game as soon as melee gets sorted.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 05:43 AM

I prefer the Hatchetman myself. Personal taste I guess.

The looks and the fact it's a JJ equipped Medium.

Ohhhhhhh yes, could you imagine. JJ high over, land "say hello to my hatchet"

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 07:18 AM

View PostJenkss, on 06 July 2013 - 05:43 AM, said:

Ohhhhhhh yes, could you imagine. JJ high over, land "say hello to my hatchet"


Death from above, ****! Do you use it? :)

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 04:25 PM

I hope the developers add the electronics oriented Cyclops for the next Assault 'Mech, giving it ECM, Command Console and an extra Module Slot. As the Cyclops fills this role in the assault weight class, PGI could then remove the ECM hardpoint from the Atlas AS7-D-DC. This would make the Cyclops play a very unique role on the battlefield. According to canon, none of the Cyclops variants mount ECM, but nor does the AS7-D-DC (pre-Jihad). No reason why a Cyclops variant(s) cannot be equipped with an ECM hardpoint. Thoughts/Opinions?

Cyclops Redesign from Creepy
http://mwomercs.com/...clops-redesign/
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Edited by Maverick01, 06 July 2013 - 04:31 PM.


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Posted 06 July 2013 - 05:21 PM

View PostMaverick01, on 06 July 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

I hope the developers add the electronics oriented Cyclops for the next Assault 'Mech, giving it ECM, Command Console and an extra Module Slot. As the Cyclops fills this role in the assault weight class, PGI could then remove the ECM hardpoint from the Atlas AS7-D-DC. This would make the Cyclops play a very unique role on the battlefield. According to canon, none of the Cyclops variants mount ECM, but nor does the AS7-D-DC (pre-Jihad). No reason why a Cyclops variant(s) cannot be equipped with an ECM hardpoint. Thoughts/Opinions?

Cyclops Redesign from Creepy
http://mwomercs.com/...clops-redesign/
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This guy says "Vote for Cyclops"
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as does this guy
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and so do I.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 02:45 AM

Posted Imagelooks similar, another view to show how massive the Cyclops is. looks like it will be bigger than a Atlas.

Edited by SgtMagor, 07 July 2013 - 02:48 AM.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 05:57 AM

View PostSgtMagor, on 07 July 2013 - 02:45 AM, said:

Posted Imagelooks similar, another view to show how massive the Cyclops is. looks like it will be bigger than a Atlas.

makes me think how cool it would be if they would have an open community art design contest for a specific chassis, let the community vote on it, then have Alex whip it up.

And then make the Modelling Dept actually scale it properly.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 08:51 AM

View PostSgtMagor, on 07 July 2013 - 02:45 AM, said:

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:16 AM

View PostMaverick01, on 06 July 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

I hope the developers add the electronics oriented Cyclops for the next Assault 'Mech, giving it ECM, Command Console and an extra Module Slot. As the Cyclops fills this role in the assault weight class, PGI could then remove the ECM hardpoint from the Atlas AS7-D-DC. This would make the Cyclops play a very unique role on the battlefield. According to canon, none of the Cyclops variants mount ECM, but nor does the AS7-D-DC (pre-Jihad). No reason why a Cyclops variant(s) cannot be equipped with an ECM hardpoint. Thoughts/Opinions?

Cyclops Redesign from Creepy
http://mwomercs.com/...clops-redesign/
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Agreed. I will miss the ECM in my Atlas D-DC, but Cyclops is much more adequate for it.

On the other hand, I would prefer the Banshee for the next Assault. Except for the "electronics" stuff, the Cyclops will be too much like the Atlas/Highlander/Victor/Orion loadlout.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 10:07 AM

View PostOdanan, on 07 July 2013 - 09:16 AM, said:

Agreed. I will miss the ECM in my Atlas D-DC, but Cyclops is much more adequate for it.

On the other hand, I would prefer the Banshee for the next Assault. Except for the "electronics" stuff, the Cyclops will be too much like the Atlas/Highlander/Victor/Orion loadlout.

Gotta agree.

I would love it, but it would need some SERIOUS ECM/BAP/TAG and Module Support to stand out. I'm thinking maybe not add extra hardpoints, like some models do, but maybe give it extra module slots?

(Also how about a "Command Module" that maybe takes up 2 slots, that allows it to collate the data from the other units modules and broadcast it as a "big picture" to the whole team?)

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 10:31 AM

Before I had an enforced hiatus I actually didn't use the DD-C or ECM much preferring my Founder's Atlas, so I don't much miss the ECM when I'm stomping around in my Assault. I'd really love the Cyclops to be another Assault candidate with ECM so I had another option, in addition to other electronic/etc hardpoints. It can be a very versatile Assault.

Edited by Jack Gallows, 07 July 2013 - 10:44 AM.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 10:57 AM

Are we at TRO 3050 mechs yet or are we still in TRO 3025?

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:33 AM

View PostVaskadar, on 07 July 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

Are we at TRO 3050 mechs yet or are we still in TRO 3025?


Both.

#4314 Jack Gallows

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:02 PM

View PostVaskadar, on 07 July 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

Are we at TRO 3050 mechs yet or are we still in TRO 3025?


As Odanan put it, we're able to use both. The TRO date doesn't equal actual production date...just when the TRO info was collected from an in-universe stand point.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:32 PM

View PostJack Gallows, on 07 July 2013 - 12:02 PM, said:


As Odanan put it, we're able to use both. The TRO date doesn't equal actual production date...just when the TRO info was collected from an in-universe stand point.

and even that is not 100%, as the "TRO 3050" went into print in 3052, and so many models in it are not produced yet. Use the Battletech Master Unit List for more concise info on what is available and when.
http://www.masterunitlist.info/
also remember that the current "TRO 3050 Upgrade" has upgrades to the base units, most of which won't exist for 15-20 years.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:37 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 07 July 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

and even that is not 100%, as the "TRO 3050" went into print in 3052, and so many models in it are not produced yet. Use the Battletech Master Unit List for more concise info on what is available and when.
http://www.masterunitlist.info/
also remember that the current "TRO 3050 Upgrade" has upgrades to the base units, most of which won't exist for 15-20 years.


That's why you get the originals, and don't bother with the "upgrades" -_- Failing that, Sarna is good but the link Bishop provided is probably one of the best.

I think the Tech Readouts were my most favorite part of Battletech, especially 3025 and 2750 with all the in depth fluff/etc.

Edited by Jack Gallows, 07 July 2013 - 12:40 PM.


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:40 PM

View PostJack Gallows, on 07 July 2013 - 12:37 PM, said:


That's why you get the originals, and don't bother with the "upgrades" -_-
I think the Tech Readouts were my most favorite part of Battletech, especially 3025 and 2750 with all the in depth fluff/etc.

don't forget the 3026!!!!

And the first edition House Books were spectacular, unlike the newer ones! And I totally agree. I have all the stuff from 1st thru 3rd ed, funnily enough.... I play 1st Ed Mechwarrior........

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:44 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 07 July 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

don't forget the 3026!!!!

And the first edition House Books were spectacular, unlike the newer ones! And I totally agree. I have all the stuff from 1st thru 3rd ed, funnily enough.... I play 1st Ed Mechwarrior........


3026 wasn't bad but I wish they had combined it with the other readouts, so they would kind of cover EVERYTHING. I've got mostly stuff through 2nd edition, and yeah the original House books were a LOT meatier then the more recent ones. The old mercenaries book was great too...

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:50 PM

There's also TRO 3039. -_-

From an in-universe standpoint, the TROs are the functional equivalents of the Jane's books.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 01:00 PM

View PostStrum Wealh, on 07 July 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

There's also TRO 3039. -_-

From an in-universe standpoint, the TROs are the functional equivalents of the Jane's books.

They need a TRO 3039 "Phoenix Edition" with Reseens in it. That was my biggest knock on the 3039. No WHM. no MAD< no THUD, etc.





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