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[ShadowbaneX]

Strum Wealh, on 09 April 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

For the AFFS with regard to Centurions & Victors, there is actually a very high chance that one probably would see significantly more of the former than the latter.

AFFS in 3050: ~77 'Mech regiments (down from ~87 in 3039)
AFFS 'Mech weight class distribution: 30% Light, 40% Medium, 20% Heavy, 10% Assault
(source: Faction Assignment & Rarity Tables, pg. 03)

We know that one regiment is 3-5 battalions & that one battalion is (usually) 36 'Mechs, so we can say that the AFFS had between 8316 and 13860 BattleMechs (not including allied mercenaries) in service as of 3050.

Well, was just using two (not-entirely) random examples...and Ah! So that's why the graph feels off. I'm not doubting your math, but it's those two additional facts (mostly the 2nd one about the 30/40/20/10 tonnage class distribution) that's missing. That sorta needs to be referenced or something (even if it's a "please see table 10-2" for those break downs). Without that, it seems that there's equal weighting to the classes since everything is noted as 1 in 1000 (ie 25/25/25/25). It's not 1 in 1000 mechs, it's 1 in 1000 assault mechs, etc.

[Odanan]

ShadowbaneX, on 09 April 2014 - 10:45 PM, said:

Well, was just using two (not-entirely) random examples...and Ah! So that's why the graph feels off. I'm not doubting your math, but it's those two additional facts (mostly the 2nd one about the 30/40/20/10 tonnage class distribution) that's missing. That sorta needs to be referenced or something (even if it's a "please see table 10-2" for those break downs). Without that, it seems that there's equal weighting to the classes since everything is noted as 1 in 1000 (ie 25/25/25/25). It's not 1 in 1000 mechs, it's 1 in 1000 assault mechs, etc.

Is this better?

[Odanan]

Rebas Kradd, on 10 April 2014 - 11:27 AM, said:

Patch notes were already leaked on Reddit. We're getting two new Battlemasters, two new Locusts, two new Shadowhawks, and a new Thunderbolt.

They're basically just finishing the Phoenix pack.

[Odanan]

Jin Ma, on 10 April 2014 - 12:30 PM, said:

It doesn't look much like the gorgeous concept art...

The arms are too tiny and the legs are huge, bulk and too square.

[Odanan]

From Reddit:

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New Mechs
BattleMaster BLR-3M
Tonnage: 85
Engine: 340 Standard
Top Speed: 64.8 kph
Max Engine Rating: 400
Torso Movement:
60 degrees to each side.
20 degrees up and down.
Arm Movement:
30 degrees to each side.
30 degrees up and down.
Armor: 464 (Standard)
Internal Structure: Standard
Weapons & Equipment:
Left Arm: Machine Gun
Left Torso: Medium Laser x3, SRM 6, CASE
Right Torso: Medium Laser x3
Right Arm: ER PPC
Hardpoints:
Left Arm: 1 Ballistic
Left Torso: 3 Energy, 1 Missile
Right Torso: 3 Energy, 1 AMS
Right Arm: 2 Energy
Heat Sinks: 18 Double
Jump Jets: 0 (0 Max)
ECM Capable?: No
Module Slots: 2
Movement Archetype: Huge
Quirks:
Torso Yaw Speed -20%
Torso Pitch Speed -20%
BattleMaster BLR-3S
Tonnage: 85 Engine: 340 XL
Top Speed: 64.8 kph
Max Engine Rating: 400
Torso Movement:
80 degrees to each side.
20 degrees up and down.
Arm Movement:
30 degrees to each side.
30 degrees up and down.
Armor: 448 (Standard)
Internal Structure: Standard
Weapons & Equipment:
Left Torso: Medium Pulse Laser x3, SRM 6, CASE
Right Torso: Medium Pulse Laser x3, CASE
Right Arm: LRM 20
Hardpoints:
Left Torso: 3 Energy, 1 Missile
Right Torso: 3 Energy, 1 AMS
Right Arm: 1 Missile
Heat Sinks: 22 Single
Jump Jets: 0 (0 Max)
ECM Capable?: No
Module Slots: 2
Movement Archetype: Huge
Locust LCT-1E
Tonnage: 20
Engine: 160 Standard
Top Speed: 129.6 kph
Max Engine Rating: 190
Torso Movement:
120 degrees to each side.
20 degrees up and down.
Arm Movement:
0 degrees to each side.
60 degrees up and down.
Armor: 128 (Standard)
Internal Structure: Standard
Weapons & Equipment:
Left Arm: Medium Laser, Small Laser
Right Arm: Medium Laser, Small Laser
Hardpoints:
Left Arm: 3 Energy
Right Torso: 1 AMS
Right Arm: 3 Energy
Heat Sinks: 10 Single
Jump Jets: 0 (0 Max)
ECM Capable?: No
Module Slots: 2
Movement Archetype: Tiny
Locust LCT-1M
Tonnage: 20
Engine: 160 Standard
Top Speed: 129.6 kph
Max Engine Rating: 190
Torso Movement:
135 degrees to each side.
20 degrees up and down.
Arm Movement:
0 degrees to each side.
60 degrees up and down.
Armor: 32 (Standard)
Internal Structure: Standard
Weapons & Equipment:
Left Arm: LRM 5
Center Torso: Medium Laser
Right Arm: LRM 5
Hardpoints:
Left Arm: 1 Missile
Center Torso: 2 Energy
Right Torso: 1 AMS
Right Arm: 1 Missile
Heat Sinks: 10 Single
Jump Jets: 0 (0 Max)
ECM Capable?: No
Module Slots: 2
Movement Archetype: Tiny
Shadow Hawk SHD-2D
Tonnage: 55
Engine: 275 Standard
Top Speed: 81 kph
Max Engine Rating: 360
Torso Movement:
90 degrees to each side.
30 degrees up and down.
Arm Movement:
35 degrees to each side.
30 degrees up and down.
Armor: 144 (Standard)
Internal Structure: Standard
Weapons & Equipment:
Head: SRM 2
Left Arm: Medium Laser
Left Torso: AC/5
Center Torso: SRM 2
Right Torso: LRM 5
Right Arm: Medium Laser
Hardpoints:
Head: 1 Missile
Left Arm: 2 Energy
Left Torso: 1 Ballistic, 1 AMS
Center Torso: 1 Missile
Right Torso: 1 Missile
Right Arm: 1 Energy
Heat Sinks: 14 Single
Jump Jets: 3 (3 Max)
ECM Capable?: No
Module Slots: 2
Movement Archetype: Medium
Quirks:
Torso Yaw Speed +25%
Turn Speed +5%
Shadow Hawk SHD-2K
Tonnage: 55
Engine: 275 Standard
Top Speed: 81 kph
Max Engine Rating: 360
Torso Movement:
90 degrees to each side.
30 degrees up and down.
Arm Movement:
35 degrees to each side.
30 degrees up and down.
Armor: 304 (Standard)
Internal Structure: Standard
Weapons & Equipment:
Left Torso: PPC
Right Torso: LRM 5
Hardpoints:
Left Torso: 3 Energy, 1 AMS
Right Torso: 3 Missile
Heat Sinks: 17 Single
Jump Jets: 3 (5 Max)
ECM Capable?: No
Module Slots: 2
Movement Archetype: Medium
Quirks:
Torso Yaw Speed +25%
Turn Speed +5%
Thunderbolt TDR-9S
Tonnage: 65
Engine: 260 Standard
Top Speed: 64.8 kph
Max Engine Rating: 315
Torso Movement:
80 degrees to each side.
20 degrees up and down.
Arm Movement:
20 degrees to each side.
30 degrees up and down.
Armor: 422 (Standard)
Internal Structure: Standard
Weapons & Equipment:
Left Arm: Machine Gun x2
Left Torso: Medium Laser x3, SRM 6, CASE
Right Torso: Flamer x2, AMS, CASE
Right Arm: ER PPC
Hardpoints:
Left Arm: 2 Ballistic
Left Torso: 3 Energy, 1 Missile, 1 AMS
Right Torso: 2 Energy, 1 AMS
Right Arm: 1 Energy
Heat Sinks: 15 Double
Jump Jets: 0 (0 Max)
ECM Capable?: No
Module Slots: 2
Movement Archetype: Medium
Performance
Improved framerate by removing unnecessary raycasts from turrets in Assault.
Optimized the function that was cooling the mech off when it was in water.
Disabled Mech reflections in all but very high settings to reduce number of draw calls when Mechs are around water.
Bug Fixes
Fixed an issue where the defense turret is able to lock on enemies shielded by ECM.
Fixed an issue where the target letter designation goes up and down during a match.
Previously selected game modes will now be saved between matches.
Fixed certain weapons effects that were corrupted in DX11
Disabled keyboard interaction during searching for a match and various pop-ups.
Fixed an issue where the Group leader will get an error message when trying to immediately launches after readying up.
Fixed an issue where the first message received without having Social window open is not displayed
Fixed an issue where user names with spaces broken onto separate lines if maximum character for text is reached
Fixed an issue where purchasable mech remains selected when switching to the owned filter
Fixed an issue where users games would randomly hang

Edited by Odanan, 10 April 2014 - 01:40 PM.

[CDLord HHGD]

Damn, dat Madcat! She got some thighs though!

[Odanan]

Here it is, guys:


(I ignored the deformed 3rd screenshot)

[MonkeyDCecil]

Odanan, on 10 April 2014 - 01:41 PM, said:

Here it is, guys:


(I ignored the deformed 3rd screenshot)

It is awful. I mean there is something wrong with the legs, compared to the upper body. The legs are just to big. Or the top is just to small.

[ShadowbaneX]

Odanan, on 10 April 2014 - 12:44 AM, said:

Is this better?

Yup. Much better. I'm going to assume that the missing mechs per tonnage class are mechs not available in MWO.

As for the variants going to released next patch I'm a little sad that they're just more Phoenix mechs. I was kinda hoping that older mechs would have gotten new variants. I suppose that would require those chassis to have the dynamic hard point layout on them, which hasn't happened on many of them.

[Jin Ma]

MonkeyDCecil, on 10 April 2014 - 02:11 PM, said:

It is awful. I mean there is something wrong with the legs, compared to the upper body. The legs are just to big. Or the top is just to small.

maybe its just the angle


Does anyone remember this cataphract screen shot? compared to how it looks in game.


or this jagermech angle (granted the jagermech's leg did come out massive though)

[Odanan]

ShadowbaneX, on 10 April 2014 - 02:14 PM, said:

Yup. Much better. I'm going to assume that the missing mechs per tonnage class are mechs not available in MWO.

Indeed. Macross unseen have a great presence in the light and heavy classes.

ShadowbaneX, on 10 April 2014 - 02:14 PM, said:

As for the variants going to released next patch I'm a little sad that they're just more Phoenix mechs. I was kinda hoping that older mechs would have gotten new variants. I suppose that would require those chassis to have the dynamic hard point layout on them, which hasn't happened on many of them.

Yes, it was disappointing...

[Cimarb]

MonkeyDCecil, on 10 April 2014 - 02:11 PM, said:

It is awful. I mean there is something wrong with the legs, compared to the upper body. The legs are just to big. Or the top is just to small.

The "deformed" 3rd screenshot, that Odanan omitted for that very reason, is why you have that perception. The legs, while you could make them smaller, are quite proportional to the mech when you aren't looking up the TWolf's skirt...

[Ovion]

I'm... I dunno, both happy and irritated at the new mech variants.

I JUST bought my last locust, I'm well on my way to mastering them, and now there's 2 more variants that honestly... just seem better (especially how I run them) than the variants I have.

So I will likely end up either having to sell the existing ones, to buy the 'better' ones, or buy 2 more Mechbays for all 5.... (or ignore them and stick with what I have, even though the new ones are 'superior' to the ones I have).

Then if (hopefully) there's a Locust Hero, whatever that may be, I'll end up wanting (and likely getting) that too.
(Also, anyone have any ideas on what a Locust Hero would probably be?)

[Cimarb]

Ovion, on 10 April 2014 - 06:03 PM, said:

Then if (hopefully) there's a Locust Hero, whatever that may be, I'll end up wanting (and likely getting) that too.
(Also, anyone have any ideas on what a Locust Hero would probably be?)

There aren't any listed on Sarna, at least, so I would assume that PGI would just make one up. I'm sure they can find someone listed as piloting one and make a story about it. (I just hope they actually make a story to go along with it, instead of naming it and calling it good)

[BigBadVlad]

Hmmm Tdr 9S looks promising and the SDH 2K....

[Tkhaw]

Odanan, on 10 April 2014 - 01:41 PM, said:

Here it is, guys:


(I ignored the deformed 3rd screenshot)

It looks good to me!

But still thinking on whether to get this ala carte...

Lately, my interest in MWO is slightly on the wane...

[Nathan Foxbane]

She looks so much better in motion.

Pics from Russ according to Phil/Sean Lang on the NGNG site.

Edited by Nathan Foxbane, 10 April 2014 - 07:05 PM.

[Odanan]

Nathan Foxbane, on 10 April 2014 - 07:03 PM, said:

She looks so much better in motion.

Pics from Russ according to Phil/Sean Lang on the NGNG site.

She does!

But now I know what I don't like in the legs: the look from the sides of the upper leg. If only it was narrower and more elegant...

Edited by Odanan, 11 April 2014 - 12:37 AM.

[Karl Streiger]

Nice - this orange stripe should be renamed into "shoot-here" camo

[Butane9000]

Those new variants are all phoenix variants. That makes me sad. Could be so much more...