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#8121 Odanan

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 06:08 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 17 May 2014 - 02:40 PM, said:

Comstar specials for Battle of Tukayid. Make no sense for us to see them til AFTER Tukaid, if at all.

Well, Comstar upgraded them before Tukayid (otherwise they wouldn't feature in the battle)...

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 06:11 PM

I hope they will release 4* other IS mechs in the Clan months and the "Clanbuster pack**" with the "Second Wave" of Clan Invasion (the other 8 omnimechs).

*Urbanmech, Vindicator, Lancelot and Mauler.

**Hussar, Wyvern, Champion (because the Clanbuster Black Knight has a hatchet) and King Crab.

#8123 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 08:34 PM

View PostOdanan, on 19 May 2014 - 06:08 PM, said:

Well, Comstar upgraded them before Tukayid (otherwise they wouldn't feature in the battle)...

And what was the first battle they were used in?

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 01:14 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 19 May 2014 - 08:34 PM, said:

And what was the first battle they were used in?

Until CW is running, we are not doing real battles, you know.

Heck, as MWO forgets a whole set of real-life elements (like death of the mechwarriors and permanent destruction of mechs/equipment), the whole game must be just some sort of training simulator.

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 01:34 AM

When will they add the uziel mech? I like that mech it is fun to pilot grate for ECM.

2 PPC
1 SRM6
2 MGun

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Edited by Nova Latios Storm, 20 May 2014 - 01:35 AM.


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Posted 20 May 2014 - 03:41 AM

View PostNova Latios Storm, on 20 May 2014 - 01:34 AM, said:

When will they add the uziel mech? I like that mech it is fun to pilot grate for ECM.

2 PPC
1 SRM6
2 MGun

Uziel is a much later design:

Uziel UZL-2S = 3063
Uziel UZL-3S = 3065
Uziel UZL-8S = 3075

We are currently at the year 3050-3051. Only when the devs start to make timeline leaps, these MW4 designs will show up. (read the OP)

#8127 MonkeyDCecil

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 05:03 AM

The Kit Fox's cockpit makes me think Mandalorian.

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 11:19 AM

N'awlins Ghetto-Dervish

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280XL, 4 JJ, near max armor, 2x LRm 10 (ammo x4), 2x SSRM (Ammo x1) 2 x MLaser and BAP.

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 11:34 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 20 May 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

N'awlins Ghetto-Dervish

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280XL, 4 JJ, near max armor, 2x LRm 10 (ammo x4), 2x SSRM (Ammo x1) 2 x MLaser and BAP.

I don't like the Trebs - well, I really don't like any mediums, or lights for that matter - but that is one cool looking mech. It's like a mini BLR-1S with a cool paint job!

Edit: as the resident weapon graphics expert, how do they look on this one, Bishop?

Edited by Cimarb, 20 May 2014 - 11:35 AM.


#8130 Ovion

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:57 PM

I do like that scheme...
Not sure if I can swing more mechs right now though ><

Edited by Ovion, 20 May 2014 - 12:58 PM.


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Posted 20 May 2014 - 01:39 PM

View PostCimarb, on 20 May 2014 - 11:34 AM, said:

I don't like the Trebs - well, I really don't like any mediums, or lights for that matter - but that is one cool looking mech. It's like a mini BLR-1S with a cool paint job!

Edit: as the resident weapon graphics expert, how do they look on this one, Bishop?

PPCs are still too small, though not as egregious as on some. What's dumb is that the left one juts over the hand, making the left fist all but useless.

Lasers, well, the fact there is no visual cue between large, medium, small, pulse or TAG is still the universal annoyance it always has been.

Missiles, all locations show a full 20 max. When mounting SSRMs and SRMs the correct number of tubes show, as opposed to some models that show a 4 or 6 pack when you mount a 2 pack (Orion torso, for instance), Have not checked to see if 10 and 15 pack geometry is also correct.

So, for weapon geometry, I give it a C.

Biggest knock? Only Hero Mech that I know of that the "stock" engine is also it's maximum engine.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 20 May 2014 - 02:05 PM.


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Posted 20 May 2014 - 03:56 PM

I can't remember what the Treb "used" to look like, before this pass - did it get any changes to it's looks other than the "dynamic weapons"?

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 04:53 PM

I like most of the art pass. The 7K is majorly screwed up however. The LBX and UAC-5 are visually much bigger than the AC-5/10/20.

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 04:57 PM

View PostCimarb, on 20 May 2014 - 03:56 PM, said:

I can't remember what the Treb "used" to look like, before this pass - did it get any changes to it's looks other than the "dynamic weapons"?

Apparently it go shrunk.

Koniving has been working on some comparison pics.

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 04:58 PM

The ultimate mech is already in game.

Spider - 5D

ECM, small, fast, long range weapons can kite and snipe forever. Only thing keeping ti from outright ruling the battlefield is the TINY size of these maps.

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 07:16 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 20 May 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

N'awlins Ghetto-Dervish

280XL, 4 JJ, near max armor, 2x LRm 10 (ammo x4), 2x SSRM (Ammo x1) 2 x MLaser and BAP.


Very much Ghetto Dervish. With the exception of the Beagle, that's the Dervish-7D load out.

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 07:21 PM

View PostShadowbaneX, on 20 May 2014 - 07:16 PM, said:


Very much Ghetto Dervish. With the exception of the Beagle, that's the Dervish-7D load out.

lil more speed, armor and ammo, lil less JJ, but yeah, pretty much. I love the Dervish though.

View PostShar Wolf, on 20 May 2014 - 04:57 PM, said:

Apparently it go shrunk.

Koniving has been working on some comparison pics.

really? This I have got to see.

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 07:23 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 20 May 2014 - 07:21 PM, said:

really? This I have got to see.

Gimme a sec and I can dig up his pics (which are supposed to be being updated)

Shoulda done that earlier, but I got lazy >.>

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 07:27 PM

From the Steal Sales topic:

View PostKoniving, on 20 May 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

Need to take these a little bit better which I will do after a few matches.
These are temporary and as I noticed not perfectly aligned (was too lazy to sort through the fraps folder where I have thousands of screenshots so did it with paint then photoshop).
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Of course it's also possible the legs are just bent a bit more when stationary than when moving.

That would be the Trollbuchet, famous in a few youtube videos and from the picture collection that led to this battle with images taken by two different players.
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where in this image it faced off with an Atlas and won using twin SRM-4s (now streaks), twin MGs (now ACs) and twin flamers (still flamers).


The overlay is kinda hard to read (and really makes me head hurt >.< )

The first two pics are what he was planning on changing

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 07:35 PM

View PostShar Wolf, on 20 May 2014 - 07:27 PM, said:

From the Steal Sales topic:


The overlay is kinda hard to read (and really makes me head hurt >.< )

The first two pics are what he was planning on changing


Is the Treb really as tall as a Atlas and a Banchee? I know it was tall, but wft. For me the size should be 1 foot for every ton. So a 20 ton mech is 20 feet tall.





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