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[Cimarb]

MonkeyDCecil, on 22 May 2014 - 12:55 PM, said:

+1 bump, and I hate the splash damage mechanic. There is no need for it. Just have missiles do direct damage. 1 point per missile for lrms and 2 for srms.

There currently isn't a splash mechanic on missiles. The splash radius is set to 0, which means it doesn't splash. They just never readjusted the hitboxes after they fixed the splash damage, similar to a lot of other adjustments they left in long after the reason for them was gone.

[Strum Wealh]

Scratx, on 22 May 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

According to Russ, these are the mechs coming with the Clan Pack

Quote

I actually feel the command chair area has released almost everything as to how they will work and function, please have a look there again. However I do have the Variant list at this point which I can share.
• Adder:

• Prime
  
• A
  
• D

• Dire Wolf:

• Prime
  
• A
  
• B

• Kit Fox:

• Prime
  
• D
  
• S

• Nova:

• Prime
  
• B
  
• S

• Stormcrow:

• Prime
  
• C
  
• D

• Summoner:

• Prime
  
• B
  
• D

• Timber Wolf:

• Prime
  
• C
  
• S

• Warhawk:

• Prime
  
• A
  
• B

The actual load outs will be shared on the web site very soon but Im sure you can look these up on Sarna and basically understand what your getting.

Anyone care to hit up Sarna for 'em and share? (me is too lazy )

Russ Bullock has revealed which Clan OmniMech configurations will be available to Clan Package owners on June 17th.

[Cimarb]

Strum Wealh, on 22 May 2014 - 04:57 PM, said:

Russ Bullock said:

I actually feel the command chair area has released almost everything as to how they will work and function, please have a look there again.

Russ Bullock has revealed which Clan OmniMech configurations will be available to Clan Package owners on June 17th.

Is he serious about the CC area having "released almost everything" about Clan weapons? Are there password-hidden posts that I'm not aware of?....

[Bishop Steiner]

because...whynot?

[Strum Wealh]

Cimarb, on 22 May 2014 - 05:34 PM, said:

Is he serious about the CC area having "released almost everything" about Clan weapons? Are there password-hidden posts that I'm not aware of?....

Look at the post to which Russ is responding:
"Clans are released in a month, yet we have 0 details as to how exactly they will work, and we don't even know what variants we are getting for each chassis. Is there anything specific you can tell us about clans to shed some light?"

The AMA question from LPirate did not specify which elements of Clan play were the subject of the query, and Russ happened to focus on the workings of the OmniMechs - and the Command Chair post regarding OmniMechs does indeed "[release] almost everything as to how [OmniMechs] will work and function" - as well as answer the popular question of which configurations are available for which chassis.

It should also be remembered that Russ may not necessarily have all of the answers - the specifications of the weapons (e.g. "What will be the recycle time & per-salvo damage values of the Clan ER-PPC?", "How many submunitions will the LB 2-X/5-X/20-X cluster rounds actually fire?") are the more within the realms of Paul, David Bradley, and Thomas D. (that is, the people actually working specifically on weapon & equipment implementation & balancing) & those questions are then far better addressed to (and more likely to be answered by) them than Russ.

[Odanan]

Strum Wealh, on 22 May 2014 - 04:57 PM, said:

Russ Bullock has revealed which Clan OmniMech configurations will be available to Clan Package owners on June 17th.

Timber Wolf S?!?!?!?!?!!? Ah ahhhh ahhhhhh (screaming like a little girl)

[Bishop Steiner]

Odanan, on 22 May 2014 - 06:07 PM, said:

Timber Wolf S?!?!?!?!?!!? Ah ahhhh ahhhhhh (screaming like a little girl)

thing has some killer hardpoints, too. Though, I'm more thinking 2 MG, 4 SSRM2, and 2 ER PPC or LPLasers (with the tonnage saved on the SRMs)

[Odanan]

Ain't life great?

Timber Wolf Prime:

LA 2E
LT 1E, 1M
CT 1B
H
RT 1B, 1M
RA 2E

Timber Wolf C:

LA 1E
LT 1M, 1x AMS
CT 1E
H
RT 1M
RA 1B

Timber Wolf S:

LA 1E
LT 12M, 1B, 2x jump jets
CT 1x jump jet
H
RT 12M, 1B, 2x jump jets
RA 2E

EDIT: the S is even more awesome!

Edited by Odanan, 23 May 2014 - 02:53 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Odanan, on 22 May 2014 - 06:13 PM, said:

Ain't life great?

Timber Wolf Prime:

LA 2E
LT 1E, 1M
CT 1B
H
RT 1B, 1M
RA 2E

Timber Wolf C:

LA 1E
LT 1M, 1x AMS
CT 1E
H
RT 1M
RA 1B

Timber Wolf S:

LA 1E
LT 1M, 1B, 2x jump jets
CT 1x jump jet
H
RT 1M, 1B, 2x jump jets
RA 2E

thought the S packed 4x SRM6?

[Strum Wealh]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 May 2014 - 06:23 PM, said:

thought the S packed 4x SRM6?

It does.

[Bishop Steiner]

Strum Wealh, on 22 May 2014 - 06:32 PM, said:

It does.

thats the sexy beast I remember. Still sad that I probably won't be able to remake my WarDancer variant..... I can get close.... but the 4th MG will always elude me. =/

But....JJ might assuage that. Not to mention MWO heatscale might make the original build less effective, anyhow.

[wanderer]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 May 2014 - 05:48 PM, said:

because...whynot?

Reach out, and touch the handcannon of gawd.

[Cimarb]

Strum Wealh, on 22 May 2014 - 05:50 PM, said:

Look at the post to which Russ is responding:
"Clans are released in a month, yet we have 0 details as to how exactly they will work, and we don't even know what variants we are getting for each chassis. Is there anything specific you can tell us about clans to shed some light?"

The AMA question from LPirate did not specify which elements of Clan play were the subject of the query, and Russ happened to focus on the workings of the OmniMechs - and the Command Chair post regarding OmniMechs does indeed "[release] almost everything as to how [OmniMechs] will work and function" - as well as answer the popular question of which configurations are available for which chassis.

It should also be remembered that Russ may not necessarily have all of the answers - the specifications of the weapons (e.g. "What will be the recycle time & per-salvo damage values of the Clan ER-PPC?", "How many submunitions will the LB 2-X/5-X/20-X cluster rounds actually fire?") are the more within the realms of Paul, David Bradley, and Thomas D. (that is, the people actually working specifically on weapon & equipment implementation & balancing) & those questions are then far better addressed to (and more likely to be answered by) them than Russ.

Yeah, I just got the time to go read through all that. Reddit is right up there with Twitter for me - I realize it is a great way to communicate, but the actually ability to FIND anything completely alludes me...

From what I read, all I can really say is that I appreciate his responses, but other than the variant list there is little to be excited about. He really should have answered some of the follow up questions, as that would have been much more useful.

Oh, and to get back OT, I want to see the ultimate mech, for Heaven's sake! SHOW ME THE DIRE WOLF!!!!!

[Bishop Steiner]

Cimarb, on 22 May 2014 - 07:51 PM, said:

Yeah, I just got the time to go read through all that. Reddit is right up there with Twitter for me - I realize it is a great way to communicate, but the actually ability to FIND anything completely alludes me...

From what I read, all I can really say is that I appreciate his responses, but other than the variant list there is little to be excited about. He really should have answered some of the follow up questions, as that would have been much more useful.

Oh, and to get back OT, I want to see the ultimate mech, for Heaven's sake! SHOW ME THE DIRE WOLF!!!!!

screw getting back on topic-.......

I got a Goliath with an Urbie on it's head!

[Odanan]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 May 2014 - 06:23 PM, said:

thought the S packed 4x SRM6?

Strum Wealh, on 22 May 2014 - 06:32 PM, said:

It does.

It does indeed!

[OneEyed Jack]

Cimarb, on 22 May 2014 - 01:04 PM, said:

There currently isn't a splash mechanic on missiles. The splash radius is set to 0, which means it doesn't splash. They just never readjusted the hitboxes after they fixed the splash damage, similar to a lot of other adjustments they left in long after the reason for them was gone.

There is splash, and it's not set to zero. It's just so small as to make it negligible (measured in centimeters).

[Odanan]

List of the Clan omnimech's variants:

-------------------------------

Adder Prime (ES, FF)

LA 1E (ER PPC)
LT
CT 1E (Flamer - locked)
H
RT Targeting Computer
RA 1E (ER PPC)

Adder A (ES, FF)

LA 1M (LRM-20)
LT 1E (Small Pulse Laser)
CT 1E (Flamer - locked)
H
RT 1E (Small Pulse Laser)
RA 1M (LRM-20)

Adder D (ES, FF)

LA 1E (ER Large Laser)
LT 1M (SSRM-2)
CT 1E (Flamer - locked)
H
RT 1M (SSRM-2)
RA 1B (UAC/5)

-------------------------------

Dire Wolf Prime

LA 4E, 1B (2x ER Large Lasers, 2x Medium Pulse Lasers, UAC/5)
LT 1M (LRM-20)
CT
H
RT
RA 4E, 1B (2x ER Large Lasers, 2x Medium Pulse Lasers, UAC/5)

Dire Wolf A

LA 1B (Gauss Rifle)
LT 2M (2x SSRM-6)
CT
H
RT AMS
RA 3E (3x Large Pulse Lasers)

Dire Wolf D (3x Jump Jets)

LA 1E (Large Pulse Laser)
LT 2E, 1M (2x Medium Pulse Lasers, SSRM-4, Machinegun)
CT 1M (SSRM-4)
H 1E (Medium Pulse Laser)
RT 2E, 1B, 2x AP Pod (2x Medium Pulse Lasers, Machinegun)
RA 1B (LBX/20)

-------------------------------

Kit Fox Prime (ES, FF)

LA 2E (ER Large Laser, Small Pulse Laser)
LT
CT
H
RT
RA 1M, 1B (SSRM-4, LBX/5)

Kit Fox D (ES, FF)

LA 2M (LRM-15, LRM-5)
LT
CT
H
RT
RA 2M (LRM-15, NARC)

Kit Fox S (ES, FF, 6x Jump Jets)

LA 1E, 1M (Medium Pulse Laser, SSRM-4)
LT 1B (Machinegun)
CT
H
RT 1B (Machinegun)
RA 2E (Large Pulse Laser, Small Pulse Laser)

-------------------------------

Nova Prime (5x Jump Jets)

LA 6E (6x ER Medium Lasers)
LT
CT
H
RT
RA 6E (6x ER Medium Lasers)

Nova B (5x Jump Jets)

LA 1E (Large Pulse Laser)
LT 2B (2x Machineguns)
CT
H
RT 1E (ER Small Laser)
RA 1B (UAC/5)

Nova S (5x Jump Jets)

LA 3E (3x Medium Pulse Lasers)
LT 2B (2x Machineguns)
CT AMS
H
RT 2B (2x Machineguns)
RA 3E (3x Medium Pulse Lasers)

-------------------------------

Stormcrow Prime (ES, FF)

LA 2E (ER Large Laser, ER Medium Laser)
LT
CT
H 1E (ER Medium Laser)
RT
RA 2E (ER Large Laser, ER Medium Laser)

Stormcrow C (ES, FF)

LA 1B (LBX/10)
LT 1E (Medium Pulse Laser)
CT
H
RT 1E (Medium Pulse Laser)
RA 1E (Large Pulse Laser)

Stormcrow D (ES, FF)

LA 1M (LRM-20)
LT 2M (2x SRM-2)
CT
H
RT 1M (NARC)
RA 1M (LRM-20)

-------------------------------

Summoner Prime (FF, 5x Jump Jets)

LA 1B (LBX-10)
LT 1M (LRM-15)
CT
H
RT
RA 1E (ER PPC)

Summoner B (FF, 5x Jump Jets)

LA 2M (LRM-20, SRM-4)
LT 1M, AMS (NARC)
CT
H
RT
RA 2M (LRM-20, SRM-4)

Summoner D (FF, 5x Jump Jets)

LA 2E (ER Large Laser, ER Medium Laser)
LT 1B, AMS (Machinegun)
CT
H
RT 1B, AMS, Targeting Computer (Machinegun)
RA 2E (ER Large Laser, ER Medium Laser)

-------------------------------

Timber Wolf Prime (ES, FF)

LA 2E (ER Large Laser, ER Medium Laser)
LT 1M, 1E (LRM-20, Medium Pulse Laser)
CT 1B (Machinegun)
H
RT 1M, 1B (LRM-20, Machinegun)
RA 2E (ER Large Laser, ER Medium Laser)

Timber Wolf C (ES, FF)

LA 2E (2x ER Large Lasers)
LT 1M, AMS (LRM-15)
CT 1E (ER Medium Laser)
H
RT 1M (LRM-15)
RA 1B (UAC/5)

Timber Wolf S (ES, FF, 5x Jump Jets)

LA 1E
LT 2M, 1B (2x SRM-6, Machinegun)
CT
H
RT 2M, 1B (2x SRM-6, Machinegun)
RA 2E (2x Medium Pulse Lasers)

-------------------------------

Warhawk Prime (FF)

LA 2E, 1M (2x ER PPCs, LRM-10)
LT
CT
H
RT Targeting Computer
RA 2E (2x ER PPCs)

Warhawk A (FF)

LA 2E, 1M (2x ER Large Laser, SSRM-6)
LT
CT
H
RT 1M, Targeting Computer (LRM-15)
RA 1B (LBX/10)

Warhawk B (FF)

LA 1B, 1E (Gauss, ER Small Laser)
LT
CT 1M (NARC)
H
RT 2M, Targeting Computer (2x SRM-6)
RA 3E (3x ER Medium Lasers)

-------------------------------

PGI, great choice of variants*! (I hope there will be extra ones released later)

But do you realize you missed many sells because of holding this info back?

*shame for the ECM Kit Fox, tough.

Edited by Odanan, 23 May 2014 - 05:24 AM.

[Cimarb]

Odanan, on 23 May 2014 - 05:14 AM, said:

List of the Clan omnimech's variants:
But do you realize you missed many sells because of holding this info back?

They are STILL missing out on a lot of sales because we still don't know how a lot of that equipment even works! How exactly does a Clan UAC work? How about a Clan ERPPC? Probably most importantly, how does a Targeting Computer work???

We are seriously less than a month away from receiving them, and we still have very little idea of how 90% of Clan equipment will work. That is costing them a lot of sales...

[3rdworld]

[CDLord HHGD]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 May 2014 - 05:48 PM, said:

because...whynot?

I have a new wallpaper....