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#941 Odanan

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:49 AM

And as much as the ugly Quickdraw need a redesign (and we would appreciate a very agile heavy mech) it has only two real variants:

Quickdraw QDK-4G: 4 energy, 2 missile
Quickdraw QDK-4H: 4 energy, 2 missile (identical weapons and hardpoint disposition of the 4G)
Quickdraw QDK-5A: 6 energy, 1 missile (replaces the LRM10 for 2 medium lasers)
Quickdraw QDK-5K: 6 energy, 1 missile (same as 5A, but with Ferro Fibrous, DHS and more armor)

PS: this head looks like a rabbit.

#942 Aidan Malchor

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 09:37 AM

I would love to see some of the more faction specific mechs make the cut. Mechs like the Victor, Zeus, and Hatamoto-Chi would be good for a bit more immersion into the factional warfare. I'm all for the priority for mech releases being to ensure we have a wide range of mechs that fill various roles but it doesn't take to many of em (specially with timeline restrictions) before your hardpressed to find mechs that are substantially different then ones you already have.

I'm still hoping that someway, somehow the Wolfhound makes in it even though the 3X varient system makes it unlikely at this point in the timeline. Would make a good hero mech variant as well ;)

#943 Armorpiercer M82

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 09:54 AM

add anything, but at least 3 mechs per month. thank you.

#944 Odanan

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 06:28 PM

View PostArmorpiercer M82, on 22 November 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

add anything, but at least 3 mechs per month. thank you.


In the best streak, there were 2 mechs per month. Considering the big hiatus (more then 2 months) between the Spider and the Flea, I'm happy to have 1 mech every 3 weeks.

#945 Terror Teddy

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 12:07 AM

View PostAidan Malchor, on 22 November 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

I would love to see some of the more faction specific mechs make the cut. Mechs like the Victor, Zeus, and Hatamoto-Chi would be good for a bit more immersion into the factional warfare.


I'm actually hoping for some combination of the following:
-House specific mechs (Cheaper for those who are with that faction - double for opposing factions)

-House affiliated soldiers pay 0 for Repairs and Reloads but earn NO Salvage (earnings might have to be changed a bit)

-Mercenaries can buy any mech and pay a little bit more for any house mech, say X1,5 price

-Lonewolves have the same bonus as mercs but have more freedom in movement between houses when choosing jobs and not loosing standings between houses - they could basically go job hopping with less penalties

-Lonewolves pay more than Mercenaries for ALL mechs (say X1,25 price) due to lacking a supply chain and a merc corp to help them.

etc...

#946 Vincent Lynch

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 02:54 AM

View PostOdanan, on 22 November 2012 - 08:38 AM, said:

Guillotine or Grasshopper would be fine (the Guillotine looks much better) but they could wait. We have already heavy energy boats (Catapult K2 and Cataphracts) of similar tonnage.


Not entirely true. The Grasshopper offers a canon variant with 6 energy hardpoints. There's no such mech in the heavy class yet.

View PostOdanan, on 22 November 2012 - 08:38 AM, said:

What we need is a heavy brawler like the Orion - as the Cataphract has a too big cockpit for close quarters. The Orion can go toe-a-toe with the Atlas (Atlas has more armor and weapons but Orion is faster), has lots of possible builds, it's iconic and very common and looks impressive in the battlefield.

That's totally true, but the Orion WILL come, I would bet a lot of money on that. Reason: It's the only currently (timeline) available 75-ton Inner sphere Mech which offers enough variants that are actually different (unlike the Black Knight) and is not unseen/reseen.

#947 BA Dillard

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:20 AM

The December Mech should be the Stalker, that is the next Mech in the order. This is the Mech of my dreams.(well, except for the Warhammer, which I will never see, sigh) Gimme a Stalker next month, I wanna Stalk like Santa!

#948 Odanan

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:24 AM

View PostBA Dillard, on 23 November 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

The December Mech should be the Stalker, that is the next Mech in the order. This is the Mech of my dreams.(well, except for the Warhammer, which I will never see, sigh) Gimme a Stalker next month, I wanna Stalk like Santa!


"Should"? The Stalker is the next mech in line. It will be playable in December or January.

#949 Der BruzZzler von Wiesndoof

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:01 AM

View PostStrum Wealh, on 21 November 2012 - 08:59 AM, said:

The Black Knight doesn't have enough variants in production at this point in the canon timeline. :P


And? Same with the Highlander. Only one single variant in the current canon timeline, but it is already announced! Its not a reason to omit the Black Knight.

I hope we see the Black Knight and (or) the Orion sooner or later ingame. Both are great and iconic mechs and need a redesign by FD. I don't care what 75 ton mech comes first and i have nothing against a second energy mech, because we alreday have some LRM-Boats, Allrounders etc.pp.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 02:18 PM

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And? Same with the Highlander. Only one single variant in the current canon timeline, but it is already announced! Its not a reason to omit the Black Knight.



Well- not true.

HGN-733 ( AC 10)
HGN-733P (PPC)
HGN-733C (AC 20)

are the gaussless lowtech versions.

Then you have the -732 (with Gauss) as well of course.

Edited by martius, 23 November 2012 - 02:19 PM.


#951 verybad

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 02:21 PM

The Black Knight is horrifically boring. It's always an energy boat, It would be a waste of a good mech slot. You can do the sam thing with either an Awesome or a Cataphract. Or close enough. It brngs nothing to the table. I would vastly prefer the Orion, which looks a lot more machiney than boy-dolly. The Orion looks like something you walk into the mechlab, the tech ise up to his waste in one of hte legs, he gets out, covered in grease and say's (Scottish Accent) "I've replaced the damned Myomers, but don't go getting them blown out again or we'll be havin' words! Also I've upped the performance on the AC- it shouldn't be jammin' as mooch now!"

The Black Knight looks like a Barbie Doll for boys, I absolutely hate that mech, and always have.

#952 Odanan

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 04:06 PM

View PostThe Birdeater, on 23 November 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:


And? Same with the Highlander. Only one single variant in the current canon timeline, but it is already announced! Its not a reason to omit the Black Knight.

I hope we see the Black Knight and (or) the Orion sooner or later ingame. Both are great and iconic mechs and need a redesign by FD. I don't care what 75 ton mech comes first and i have nothing against a second energy mech, because we alreday have some LRM-Boats, Allrounders etc.pp.


Are you out of your mind??

--------------------------
Black Knight BL-7-KNT

LA 1e (Medium Laser)
LT 2e (Large Laser, Medium Laser)
CT
H 1e (Small Laser)
RT 2e (Large Laser, Medium Laser)
RA 2e (PPC, Medium Laser)

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Black Knight BL7W-KNT (DHS, Beagle, Ferro Fibrous)
(identical weapons and hardpoints of the BL-7-KNT)

LA 1e (Medium Laser)
LT 2e (Large Laser, Medium Laser)
CT
H 1e (Small Laser)
RT 2e (Large Laser, Medium Laser)
RA 2e (PPC, Medium Laser)

--------------------------
Black Knight BL8W-KNT (DHS, Ferro Fibrous)
(identical weapons and hardpoints of the BL-7-KNT and BL7W-KNT, except for the missing Small Laser )

LA 1e (Medium Laser)
LT 2e (Large Laser, Medium Laser)
CT
H
RT 2e (Large Laser, Medium Laser)
RA 2e (PPC, Medium Laser)


I don't want to hear anything more about the Black Knight.

#953 Odanan

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 04:14 PM

View Postverybad, on 23 November 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

The Black Knight is horrifically boring. It's always an energy boat, It would be a waste of a good mech slot. You can do the sam thing with either an Awesome or a Cataphract. Or close enough. It brngs nothing to the table.


This. ^

View Postverybad, on 23 November 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

The Black Knight looks like a Barbie Doll for boys, I absolutely hate that mech, and always have.


It could look very cool (depending of the art), it's a decent mech in TT (as any mech with lots of Medium Lasers and some PPCs) and there are the MW4 fans that think that monstrosity in MW4's lab has something to do with the original Black Knight. So people want it.

But no, there is NO PLACE for the Black Knight in MWO.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 04:43 PM

View Postmartius, on 23 November 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

Well- not true.

HGN-733 ( AC 10)
HGN-733P (PPC)
HGN-733C (AC 20)

are the gaussless lowtech versions.

Then you have the -732 (with Gauss) as well of course.


when can we expect this ?

#955 Odanan

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 06:10 PM

View PostArmorpiercer M82, on 23 November 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:


when can we expect this ?


The Highlander should be in the game around April/May, 2013.

#956 Der BruzZzler von Wiesndoof

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:01 PM

View Postmartius, on 23 November 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

Well- not true.

HGN-733 ( AC 10)
HGN-733P (PPC)
HGN-733C (AC 20)

are the gaussless lowtech versions.

Then you have the -732 (with Gauss) as well of course.


Oh. Thanks for the information! ;)


View PostOdanan, on 23 November 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

..and there are the MW4 fans that think that monstrosity in MW4's lab has something to do with the original Black Knight. So people want it.


MW4 was a crap game and the MW4 Black Knight was ridiculous. That's not the reason why i like it, but i imagine that many fans think so.

View PostOdanan, on 23 November 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

But no, there is NO PLACE for the Black Knight in MWO.


No matter...

View PostOdanan, on 23 November 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

I don't want to hear anything more about the Black Knight.


:ph34r:Black Knight for president! :lol:

Edited by The Birdeater, 26 November 2012 - 11:04 AM.


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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:54 PM

Clan mechs will be the best.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 03:03 AM

View PostStingray1234, on 23 November 2012 - 11:54 PM, said:

Clan mechs will be the best.


As the current heat system is, they will be unplayable.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 11:07 AM

View PostVincent Lynch, on 23 November 2012 - 02:54 AM, said:


Not entirely true. The Grasshopper offers a canon variant with 6 energy hardpoints. There's no such mech in the heavy class yet.


That's totally true, but the Orion WILL come, I would bet a lot of money on that. Reason: It's the only currently (timeline) available 75-ton Inner sphere Mech which offers enough variants that are actually different (unlike the Black Knight) and is not unseen/reseen.


I wouldn't be too sure that Orion will be it. I don't know exactly at which point in 3050 clanners show up, but given the rate they currently release mechs, I wouldn't be suprised if the next announcements were actually from around here:

http://www.sarna.net...l_Readout:_3050

To my personal dissappointment, Black Knight isn't mentioned, so I guess it'll have to wait a bit longer.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 12:57 PM

http://www.solaris7....Info.asp?ID=397 is a bit better if you want to see what's in the 3050 TRO. Mainly, because it is the 3050 TRO.





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