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[Adridos]

Colddawg, on 22 May 2013 - 09:18 AM, said:

They're late. . .the day isn't over but if they were going to announce today it should have happened by now.

They usually post this stuff 11 PM STD+1 time and it's barely 8... give it time.

[Odanan]

Strum Wealh, on 21 May 2013 - 04:06 PM, said:

So, to backtrack a bit...

While TRO 3050U does indicate that the Clint didn't go back into active mass-production until 3055, that the Clint has an entry in each previous TRO (including pages 38-39 of the original TRO 3025) would imply that it is extremely common and/or extremely easy to salvage and repair.

As for some potential Heavies...

• Black Knight (75 tons): BK-6-KNT, BK-7-KNT, and BK-7-KNT-L
  
• Champion (60 tons): CHP-1N, CHP-1N2, and CHP-2N
  
• Grasshopper (70 tons): GHR-4R, GHR-5H, GHR-5N, and GHR-5J
  
• Guillotine (70 tons): GLT-3N, GLT-4L, GLT-4P, and GLT-5M
  
• Lancelot (60 tons): LNC25-01, LNC25-05, LNC25-02, LNC25-03
  
• Quickdraw (60 tons): QKD-4G, QKD-4H, QKD-5A, and QKD-5K

Everything else is Unseen, Clan, a quad, doesn't have enough timeline-fitting variants, or has variants that have not-yet-recovered-or-implemented tech (e.g. NullSig, CLPS, one-shot missile weapons, etc).


The issue with the Black Knight is that all of the variants have the same minimum hardpoint requirements and have enough weapons (8E, for each) that options with regard to adding additional hardpoints become rather limited.
This issue was previously discussed explained here and here.

Likewise, all of the Champion variants also have the same minimum hardpoint requirements (4E, 1B, 1M).
While the Champion is pushing the implied limit for the Heavy category (most of which have only 6-8 hardpoints), the number is low enough - and the Champion has each hardpoint type represented - that it is more flexible in this regard than, say, the Black Knight.

The Grasshopper variants have varying minimum hardpoint requirements (6E for the GHR-5N, 5E + 1M for the GHR-5J and GHR-5H), while still (like, say, the Champion) having few enough hardpoints to be somewhat flexible with regard to hardpoint inflation.

The Guillotine, like the Black Knight, has the issue of the variants being homogeneous - all of them require a minimum of 5E + 1M in the same location arrangement. However, as with the similarly-armed and same-mass Grasshopper, there are few enough minimum hardpoints to allow for some flexibility with regard to extras.

The Lancelot, in contrast to the other Heavy 'Mechs listed, possesses more variety across its variants - two of them (LNC25-01 and LNC25-02) are energy boats with a minimum of 4E hardpoints, one of them (LNC25-03) has a minimum hardpoint requirement of 2E + 2B, and the last one (LNC25-05) has a minimum hardpoint requirement of 3E + 4B.
The Lancelot is also notable for being particularly fast, coming stock with a 360-rated Engine (LNC25-01 and LNC25-05) or a 300-rated Engine (LNC25-03), though one variant (LNC25-02) moves only at average Heavy 'Mech speeds.

The Quickdraw suffers from variant homogeneity with regard to minimum required hardpoint numbers and placement, but still has few enough (typically six) to allow for some flexibility.

Of note is that the Grasshopper and Guillotine and Quickdraw are jump-capable, while the Black Knight and Champion and Lancelot are not.

Thoughts?

If they only started to add Reseens...

PS: Between the Grasshopper and the Guillotine, I prefer the Guillotine (cooler design, a little more flexibility in hardpoints location, equally common). The Champion if too similar to the Dragon (same speed and tonnage, equivalent weapons and hardpoints). The Black Knight is a no deal. And the Lancelot might be interesting (but energy boats are boring).

[Sennin]

A poem for the dispossessed...

So here I sit looking r3tarded while waiting on a 'Mech all brokenhearted. If in the end 30 days has come and passed then PGI, along with this game, can kiss my a$$. I'm done waiting.

[Der BruzZzler von Wiesndoof]

Nothing new here. Nothing but rumors... As always.

[Adridos]

Me for the next few hours, F5'ving into oblivion...



Also, here's some FD-made mech **** while we wait for the main thing

Edited by Adridos, 22 May 2013 - 10:31 AM.

[Odanan]

That's a very MWO-style Atlas, Adridos.

BTW, is today the day? Come on PGI! I will break my F5 key!

PS: go Banshee, go!

[Adridos]

Odanan, on 22 May 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

That's a very MWO-style Atlas, Adridos.

FD-style. MW:O style, as you call it, is a blend of his talent with more proffesionalistic clean-up done by the art team, altough he also does clean his art up when doing TRO entries like seen on his DA page.

Today's lecture of mecha art over, you can go students...

Edited by Adridos, 22 May 2013 - 11:58 AM.

[Odanan]

OK, I claim this place as the rally point for the coming of the #20 mech! Let's make some noise!

[Adridos]

Hayden is online... maybe it's just a couple of mins?

Now even Paul's on...

Edited by Adridos, 22 May 2013 - 01:02 PM.

[EyeOne]

I really thought it would be today... Are they going to break their 30 day promise?

[Adridos]

Thontor, on 22 May 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

Even if they don't announce the next mech today... They still have a couple of days

It's only been 28 days.

Don't be that guy...

[Odanan]

Today or reactor breach!

[Belorion]

I was holding my breath, but I passed out after a while.

[Colddawg]

If I remember correctly 'mech releases are on Thursdays. But we've waited long enough dammit!

[ReguIus]

Ooh, such excitement. Too bad I'm probably going to die of heart attack anyway because PGI wants to announce some poo mech like Zeus...

[Adridos]

Colddawg, on 22 May 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

If I remember correctly 'mech releases are on Thursdays. But we've waited long enough dammit!

See how long it was?!

He can't even remember it was always on Wednesday (almost always, anyway...).

[Adridos]

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[Belorion]

Maybe they meant thirty working days, which would place the announcement in mid-june e3, my original prediction for when they would announce it.

[ReguIus]

This is stupid. I'm not going to care anymore!

[Butane9000]

Let it be known, the PGI member who lied to me was none other then....

Niko Snow!

How dare he lie to me (and subsequently us) over this most serious issue.

Also I'm giving it till 8pm EST.