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#4181 Khanahar

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:29 PM

View PostOdanan, on 26 June 2013 - 05:41 PM, said:

- Cyclops is too similar in weapons loadout to the Atlas, Highlander and Orion.


I think the Cyclops is a great opportunity for an interesting EW 'mech. Give it terrible perks, so that it's inferior in combat if kitted out that way (or just make the head hitbox ginormous). But then give it like 4-5 module slots and/or bonuses to various EW equipment. I would be really happy if the Cyclops, Battlemaster, and Atlas D-DC ended up like the "command 'mechs" they were in lore (even at the price of combat ability.)

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 08:20 PM

View PostOdanan, on 26 June 2013 - 04:34 PM, said:


Very, very good predictions.

I, however, prefer the faster Clint over one more ponderous Medium...

BTW: no, the Reseen Shadow Hawk (AKA Cobra Commander) is horrible! The Unseen is ugly, but at least is a classic. The FD's redesign is amazing: best of both worlds and even better.

not so big on FD's version head (pun intended), but the hideous Cobra Commander head and the rotary plus just very generic look was MEH for me. I loved the original Dougram version though, even had the old Robotech Defendr's model kit for it.

That said, with a little tweaking I think this one will work. What I really am curious is the Thunderbolt. LRM15 in one torso and SRM2 in one torso , 3 Mediums in the other, 1 Large in the Right Arm and dual machine guns in the Left? Should be hard point heaven!

As for Mediums... Imma still gonna stump or the Assassin or the Vulcan! Both fast, both Jumpers, interesting potential hardpoints, and the Vulcan should have a wicked unique silhouette.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 26 June 2013 - 08:21 PM.


#4183 verybad

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:24 PM

I would like the Vulcan just for looks, it's different, and could make some interesting builds. Assassin...Some people might be able to use it, I'd just go back to my trusty Jenner though.

#4184 SgtMagor

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 04:17 AM

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#4185 Odanan

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 04:24 AM

I kind of like it...
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What's wrong with the Vulcan is the energy+ballistics loadout, similar to the Cicada (same weight).

#4186 Odanan

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 04:28 AM

The Assassin, on the other hand, would be interesting. Lighter fast jumping medium with energy+missiles and just enough variants.
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Posted 27 June 2013 - 04:38 AM

That's it. I bet in the Assassin for the next Medium mech.

#4188 Smoke Dancer

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 06:23 AM

I'm guessing a 75 tonner would make sense though there are only 3 to choose from in 3050 if you exclude the clanners.

#4189 Belorion

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 07:14 AM

Since we are talking about Februaries mech, unless they go to 2 a month. It can really be an Assault, Light, or Medium. Medium would make the most sense, as we will have just received the Thunderbolt, and Battlemaster.

I am beginning to think that they will put in whatever mech I least expect. The medium I least expect at this point is the Whitworth. So that's my guess.

The Whitworth actually wouldn't be tragic. The 1S could be a lighter faster version of the Centurion AL that can jump.

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:00 AM

View PostBelorion, on 27 June 2013 - 07:14 AM, said:

Since we are talking about Februaries mech, unless they go to 2 a month. It can really be an Assault, Light, or Medium. Medium would make the most sense, as we will have just received the Thunderbolt, and Battlemaster.

I am beginning to think that they will put in whatever mech I least expect. The medium I least expect at this point is the Whitworth. So that's my guess.

The Whitworth actually wouldn't be tragic. The 1S could be a lighter faster version of the Centurion AL that can jump.


Too slow. Variants too uniform.

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:32 AM

View PostOdanan, on 27 June 2013 - 04:38 AM, said:

That's it. I bet in the Assassin for the next Medium mech.


I see your bet and raise you a Clint.

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 09:01 AM

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Wow... just wow.

I prefer the reseen design, but still, there are people who like the unseen more and it's obvious which one was redesigned here.

Edited by Adridos, 27 June 2013 - 09:04 AM.


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 09:07 AM

View PostAdridos, on 27 June 2013 - 09:01 AM, said:

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Wow... just wow.

I prefer the reseen design, but still, there are people who like the unseen more and it's obvious which one was redesigned here.


Dem hard points....

#4194 Colddawg

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 09:13 AM

Pretty good.
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#4195 BarHaid

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 09:44 AM

View PostAdridos, on 27 June 2013 - 09:01 AM, said:

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Wow... just wow.

I prefer the reseen design, but still, there are people who like the unseen more and it's obvious which one was redesigned here.

Yeah, wow! He even gave it the round drum! I like everything but the hands. I think that the Awesome and the Atlas are the only mechs so far with acceptable levels of hand beefiness.

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 10:53 AM

View PostBarHaid, on 27 June 2013 - 09:44 AM, said:

Yeah, wow! He even gave it the round drum! I like everything but the hands. I think that the Awesome and the Atlas are the only mechs so far with acceptable levels of hand beefiness.

Quickdraw has pretty beefy hands.

And I gotta say the Victor looks pretty balanced. And the Hunch had tiny hands in the original art, so while not beefy, they do fit the concept well.

But the hands.... dear god those are hideous. And that missile drum screams CORE MY TORSO!!!!! No XLs here!

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 10:55 AM

Just to clear things up for me, do you dislike the shape of the hands, or their size (since they look relatively tiny)?

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 10:56 AM

View PostAdridos, on 27 June 2013 - 10:55 AM, said:

Just to clear things up for me, do you dislike the shape of the hands, or their size (since they look relatively tiny)?

if you are asking me, BOTH.

Give it beefy Quickdraw battlefists, please

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 11:16 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 27 June 2013 - 10:56 AM, said:

if you are asking me, BOTH.


What's so bad about such mechanical claws?

It gives it less generical humanoid look while still being true to the IS heritage of using hand acutators.

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 11:50 AM

View PostAdridos, on 27 June 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:


What's so bad about such mechanical claws?

It gives it less generical humanoid look while still being true to the IS heritage of using hand acutators.

They just look too fragile to withstand repeated bashing against another mech's cockpit. The Awesome has a nice looking non-humanoid claw, but the T-bolt's don't look like they could do more than grab cargo containers.





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