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#5961 Odanan

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 03:17 AM

View PostKarl Streiger, on 19 November 2013 - 01:25 AM, said:

Simple for the rule of cool - an experiment if you like - how would PGI develop a Mech - at least it would be interesting to see a Mech that was desgined only for MWO because your hardly can run Mechs that were developed for TT without modifications.

The Zeus for example - is cool running in TT - but I have ran in CB a Zeus Mod Awesome and heat was a serious problem , currently a Dragon Slayer Zeus mod - and heat is a problem and fire power is a joke

We know what PGI can create in terms of loadout with the hero variants. Heroes are their "creative license", and they are enough, IMHO.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 03:27 AM

Now give us the Banshee, the Firestarter, the Zeus, the Urbanmech, the Lancelot, the Cyclops...

(and of course, the Macross Reseens)

Again, I don't care about whole new mechs designed by PGI because no matter what they invent, there is a canonical similar mech waiting to be added.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 04:07 AM

View PostKarl Streiger, on 18 November 2013 - 05:14 AM, said:

What about an Unique MWO Mech?
Could be interesting how PGI would develop a Mech from scratch - no lore mech - a complete new Mech

At first I was inclined to disagree - there are a lot of cool designs from 3025 era yet to be added, not to mention Omnis/II Cs/Later timelines, but actually - why not? One or two unique designs wouldn't be such a bad idea, especially when we consider quality of Alex's work so far.

As far as I remember, Uziel was designed specifically for MW4: Vengeance, and since then has been canonised and liked by a lot of people, and so was MW4 redesign of Hellhound, for all intents and purposes - different mech.

Edited by ssm, 19 November 2013 - 04:07 AM.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 06:20 AM

View Postssm, on 19 November 2013 - 04:07 AM, said:

At first I was inclined to disagree - there are a lot of cool designs from 3025 era yet to be added, not to mention Omnis/II Cs/Later timelines, but actually - why not? One or two unique designs wouldn't be such a bad idea, especially when we consider quality of Alex's work so far.

As far as I remember, Uziel was designed specifically for MW4: Vengeance, and since then has been canonised and liked by a lot of people, and so was MW4 redesign of Hellhound, for all intents and purposes - different mech.

As long as they add these first:

View PostOdanan, on 19 November 2013 - 03:27 AM, said:

Banshee, the Firestarter, the Zeus, the Urbanmech, the Lancelot, the Cyclops...


#5965 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 06:32 AM

View PostOdanan, on 19 November 2013 - 06:20 AM, said:

As long as they add these first:
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Here's a thought, for fan goodwill.

Perhaps once a year, PGI could have a Design a Mech Contest. The finalist gets taken in and Alex-ized. I'm all for the canon mechs first, but also see the opportunity for more. But TBH, with some of the designs PGI has come up with on Heroes, pretty sure I don't want them to do the whole thing themselves.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 06:33 AM

It would be a life time achievement to be the designer of a new mech, right, Bishop?

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 06:36 AM

View PostOdanan, on 19 November 2013 - 06:33 AM, said:

It would be a life time achievement to be the designer of a new mech, right, Bishop?

judging by the whipping I'm getting in the MAD contest, doubt it would be my achievement. Would definitely have to limite people to one in game design per person, like ever, or we would just end up with Shimmering Sword or the like as a secondary MWO artist.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 06:54 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 19 November 2013 - 06:32 AM, said:

Here's a thought, for fan goodwill.

Perhaps once a year, PGI could have a Design a Mech Contest. The finalist gets taken in and Alex-ized. I'm all for the canon mechs first, but also see the opportunity for more. But TBH, with some of the designs PGI has come up with on Heroes, pretty sure I don't want them to do the whole thing themselves.


Having the chance to get taught by professional artitsts and see a personal creation coming to "life" (although digital) would be a great achievement. Maybe they'll open such a contest sooner or later :(

Edited by John MatriX82, 19 November 2013 - 06:55 AM.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 07:07 AM

View PostOdanan, on 18 November 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

Maps would need to be 10 times the size of the the current ones...

I was talking about CryEngine, not the game itself. :(

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 08:04 AM

View Postverybad, on 18 November 2013 - 10:34 PM, said:


Tell that to Chris Roberts...Star Citizen is using cryengine also...

And when they actually deliver Star Citizen and not a bunch of hype we will see if they could pull it off without a bunch of {Scrap} going wrong. If they can pull it off and Chris Roberts can live up to everyones expectations then good for them and I will eat my words but until then I am not holding my breath expecting some miracle game, with all these promises being made, to come true anytime soon.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 11:05 AM

View Postssm, on 19 November 2013 - 04:07 AM, said:

As far as I remember, Uziel was designed specifically for MW4: Vengeance, and since then has been canonised and liked by a lot of people, and so was MW4 redesign of Hellhound, for all intents and purposes - different mech.

Is that true, about the Uziel?

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 01:32 PM

View PostOdanan, on 18 November 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

So, who is going to buy the Scimitar Reinforcement Pack?
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That looks like a pretty darn solid Warhammer redesign. The Marauder silhouette speaks to me as well.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 02:03 PM

View PostFupDup, on 19 November 2013 - 11:05 AM, said:

Is that true, about the Uziel?

Read about it somewhere few years ago. I couldn't find exact source, but Uziel first apperance in TT is (as far as I know) in TRO 3067 published in 2003, while MW4 was released in 2000.

Edited by ssm, 19 November 2013 - 02:07 PM.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 03:13 PM

View Postssm, on 19 November 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

Read about it somewhere few years ago. I couldn't find exact source, but Uziel first apperance in TT is (as far as I know) in TRO 3067 published in 2003, while MW4 was released in 2000.

The Deimos also started as a MW4 'Mech (specifically, it was introduced during the time of MekTek and the MekPaks), and was later canonized by CGL roundabout 2010.

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Virtual World Entertainment will be unveiling new BattleTech board game compatible minis of MekTek’s officially canonized custom BattleMech, the Deimos.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 05:39 PM

View PostStrum Wealh, on 19 November 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

The Deimos also started as a MW4 'Mech (specifically, it was introduced during the time of MekTek and the MekPaks), and was later canonized by CGL roundabout 2010.

So speaks the Loremaster!

Hmmmmm... (thinking if it would be a good idea to PGI to add an all new mech)... hmm.... No, give me my Banshee and Firestarter first! (they were never in a MW game)

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 06:49 PM

Oh... I played with the Orion today and felt in love. PGI, I'm looking for a Orion champion to buy... *hint* (it could be a K or VA)

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:22 PM

oh wait til y'all see what CarrionCrow n me got cooking.......

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 02:37 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 19 November 2013 - 09:22 PM, said:

oh wait til y'all see what CarrionCrow n me got cooking.......


Intriguing please sir, do tell us more.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 03:12 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 19 November 2013 - 09:22 PM, said:

oh wait til y'all see what CarrionCrow n me got cooking.......

Marauder?

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 04:52 AM

View PostFireSlade, on 18 November 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

Also I would so drop another $30 for those 2.

Only $30? For the Warhammer and Marauder? You are being cheap, my friend.





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