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#7661 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 05:12 PM

View PostMonkeyDCecil, on 23 March 2014 - 03:54 PM, said:

So I was wondering how you guys played? Or what is your play style?

I am a flanker and I prefer medium & heavies for my mechs. I try to go 80kph+.
I use medium to long range weapons. And I try not play meta builds.

I prefer Flanker /Mobile Escort.

I prefer Medium Mechs like the ShadowHawk, kitted out for medium to short range combat, but with the ability to hit from afar. My standard SHD used a 280XL, 3 JJ, Near max armor, a UAC5, 2x Mlaser and 4x SSRM w/BAP. Don't need to go faster, because I ain't dumb enough to chase the squirrels. I do have the speed to stay with the team, and fight off any Lights that get adventurous, protecting my Big Fatties, and having the agility to 1v1 whatever else I encounter. My GRFs generally run a similar concept, even if the armament changes.

My outlier is the Ember, which I run as a high speed wrecking ball, kneecapping anything dumb enough to separate from the pack.

#7662 Tkhaw

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 07:11 PM

My preferred role is fire support and flanker/striker.

For flanking/striking, I use shadowhawks and victors (AC20, 2ML and SRM4s). Basically, just smash and go.

For fire support, I use catapults CPLT-C1(LRMs with an optimal range of 300-500)

Edited by Tkhaw, 23 March 2014 - 09:07 PM.


#7663 Jin Ma

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 08:52 PM

View PostFireSlade, on 15 March 2014 - 10:17 AM, said:

I cannot wait for them to do a pass on all the mechs that received a hero design before they started having the model change with the type of weapon. My Ilya and 3D look weird having 3 barrels for the ACs and me not using the torso ballistic HP.


No you're not - Catapults

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 09:13 PM

View PostJin Ma, on 23 March 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:


No you're not - Catapults

The Catapult dynamic hard points just made it uglier, not really hurting the design unless you run with the doors closed; a small price to pay for better looks and realism. I just wish that they made each weapon 1 size so that any Raven running an AC20 would look like it was struggling to stand under that huge cannon.

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 12:28 AM

View PostMonkeyDCecil, on 23 March 2014 - 03:54 PM, said:

So I was wondering how you guys played? Or what is your play style?

I am a flanker and I prefer medium & heavies for my mechs. I try to go 80kph+.
I use medium to long range weapons. And I try not play meta builds.


I tend to play "balanced" mechs. In other words mechs with a loadout which allows it to engage at all (or almost all) ranges. Basically the sort of loadouts you might see in a Tech Readout My Flame, for example, is basically a 3050 era Grand Dragon. My TDR-5S Thunderbolt has pretty much the stock loadout with some minor adjustments like DHS, Endo steel and so forth. Same for my STK-3F Stalker.

As for playstyle I tend to run mechs with lots of guns, and lots of guns were meant to be fired! All of them! :) My Stalker is constantly redlining the heatscale, so firediscipline is, I guess, not my strongest suit. ;) I do tend to try to flank along with other teammates to start with, but once we're comitted to the fight I tend to press on, even if that might mean I get focused on and take the brunt of the incoming fire. Sure, I might die, but as long as they're firing on me they're not firing on my lancemates. I guess being a Thunderbolt fan from way back I just naturally gravitate towards the "take it on the chin" bruiser role, which was something the tabletop TBolt excelled at. :(

With my Griffins it's a bit different, of course. Those I use mostly in a support role, focusing on LRM fire until the missile drums are empty and then engaging with the PPC (or medium lasers for the variants I've outfitted with that).

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 04:38 PM

Dervish?

DV-6M 2610
DV-1S 3025
DV-7D 3050

Edited by Marukage, 24 March 2014 - 04:45 PM.


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Posted 24 March 2014 - 05:10 PM

View PostMarukage, on 24 March 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:

Dervish?

DV-6M 2610
DV-1S 3025
DV-7D 3050

The 1S uses "Primitive Technology", so the cockpit/Engine/armor/etc weights would be different from the normal versions of the same components.

More likely for the Dervish would be the DV-6M, DV-6Md, and the DV-7D.
Even then, it would be a fifth 55-ton 'Mech, and one where all of the variants have the same minimum hardpoint layout.
The Dervish was also addressed previously in this thread. :)

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 09:28 AM

View PostStrum Wealh, on 24 March 2014 - 05:10 PM, said:

The 1S uses "Primitive Technology", so the cockpit/Engine/armor/etc weights would be different from the normal versions of the same components.

More likely for the Dervish would be the DV-6M, DV-6Md, and the DV-7D.
Even then, it would be a fifth 55-ton 'Mech, and one where all of the variants have the same minimum hardpoint layout.
The Dervish was also addressed previously in this thread. :D

We still need it.

NEED.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 03:04 PM

I'd like to see the Hatamoto-Chi Variants:
Hatamoto-Chi
2x PPCs
2x SRM-4

Hatamoto-Hi
2x PPCs
4x Medium Pulse Lasers

Hatamoto-Ku
2x PPCs
1x AC/5
Even though the Ku is underhanded, it just needs good hardpoints like the Banshee-3E to work with.

Hatamoto-Chi Sorenson
2x LBX Autocannons10
2x SRM-4

#7670 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 09:23 PM

View PostStrum Wealh, on 24 March 2014 - 05:10 PM, said:

The 1S uses "Primitive Technology", so the cockpit/Engine/armor/etc weights would be different from the normal versions of the same components.

More likely for the Dervish would be the DV-6M, DV-6Md, and the DV-7D.
Even then, it would be a fifth 55-ton 'Mech, and one where all of the variants have the same minimum hardpoint layout.
The Dervish was also addressed previously in this thread. :huh:

It's awesomeness for this game can not be denied! And if it gets the same hardpoint inflation the rest of the 55 tonners did, it should have in theory about 6 missile hardpoints on at least one variant. I'm thinking that, along with JJs, would make it the premiere scout hunter. And I think I made it look pretty cool, too.
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 09:44 PM

That is, indeed, a very cool looking Dervish, Bishop. A Dervish which looked like that I would proudly place next to my Griffins, Wolverines and Shadow Hawks in my mech hangar.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 02:52 AM

little different view of this sweet mech, jump capabilities and mobility of a light packed into a medium yup yup a must have mech gimme gimme :huh:Posted Image

Edited by SgtMagor, 26 March 2014 - 02:54 AM.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:27 AM

I think the Dervish would make a good mini-Archer, but we really, really don't need another 55-tonner.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:42 AM

View PostCimarb, on 26 March 2014 - 05:27 AM, said:

I think the Dervish would make a good mini-Archer, but we really, really don't need another 55-tonner.

I agree there are other Medium brackets in more urgent need (40 and 45 tons)...

Maybe next year the Dervish will have a chance?

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:54 AM

I am calling for

40 tonnes - Assassin

45 tonnes - Vindicator

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 09:35 AM

View PostCimarb, on 26 March 2014 - 05:27 AM, said:

I think the Dervish would make a good mini-Archer, but we really, really don't need another 55-tonner.


LIES! Hateful, hateful lies! We need all the 55-tonners from 3025...well, 'cept for the Scorpion. No one likes quad-mechs.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 09:52 AM

View PostOdanan, on 26 March 2014 - 05:42 AM, said:

I agree there are other Medium brackets in more urgent need (40 and 45 tons)...

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CLNT-2-3T
CLNT-2-3U
CLNT-2-4T
Hero: CLNT-2-3T Denton

Edited by stjobe, 26 March 2014 - 09:55 AM.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 10:29 AM

Someday in the sadly distant future I would love to have a Brigand. Would look great and be rather fitting with a buccaneer paint job.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 02:06 PM

View PostShadowbaneX, on 26 March 2014 - 09:35 AM, said:


LIES! Hateful, hateful lies! We need all the 55-tonners from 3025...well, 'cept for the Scorpion. No one likes quad-mechs.


Excuse me, but you take that back RIGHT NOW! I want my Scorpion, including it's lore-correct kidney-bruising bumpy ride! AND I want my tank on stilts, the Goliath!

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:29 PM

Could they even really do quad-mechs with the current controls? There's no torso to twist so I suppose the mouse could be remapped to turn left & right. Then the turn keys would become strafe keys, but I don't think that would react well to the throttle controls we have. Sounds...well about as easy to code as comfortable as the ride is.





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