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#9961 Ens

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 04:24 AM

I´d like to quote on this:

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REAL NOIIIIICE!


#9962 ShadowbaneX

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 06:28 AM

Single player and integrated viop is nice but I'm thinking we'll see the battle of Tukayyid before that stuff makes it into the game.

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 06:37 AM

Ultimate mech discussion thread turns into the Ultimate 'Why Bishop is with the DC Thread'

Lovin' it :)

-ST

PS - Vote Davion, its the right thing to do!

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 08:00 AM

View PostSoul Tribunal, on 18 December 2014 - 06:37 AM, said:

Ultimate mech discussion thread turns into the Ultimate 'Why Bishop is with the DC Thread'

Lovin' it :)

-ST

PS - Vote Davion, its the right thing to do!


No.

Go Bears! We bring you peace, love, technology, education and a sense of belonging... please form a line to right to be accepted as bondsmen to the Clan.

#9965 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 08:15 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 18 December 2014 - 08:00 AM, said:


No.

Go Bears! We bring you peace, love, technology, education and a sense of belonging... please form a line to right to be accepted as bondsmen to the Clan.

Plus how does everyone know I really belong to the Lyran Faction? Steiner is also a Bloodname for Clan Cloud Cobra.


Or maybe, I'm this guy.......
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Edited by Bishop Steiner, 18 December 2014 - 08:16 AM.


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Posted 18 December 2014 - 09:06 AM

View PostOdanan, on 18 December 2014 - 04:09 AM, said:

Single Player Campaign


Excuse me for a moment while I go EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE like a squealing pre-teen girl at a boyband concert.

Come on, 3025-era campaign! Come on!

Ooooh! Or even better, a campaign which stretches from the days relatively "peaceful" time at the end of the 3rd Succession War in the early 3020's (around the time of the first Novels) through the outbreak of the 4th Succession War, the war of 3039 and all the way to and into the Clan Invasion. With some timeskips for the periods where nothing happened, of course. We could get lore tidbits like the formation and rise of the Gray Death Legion, the creation of the FedCom and Rasalhague, We could start with the "Mechs held together with spit, duct tape and hope" level of tech in the early days and then slowly get access to more advanced tech and even factory-new mechs as the information from the Helm Memory Core starts making its influence felt and so on and so forth.

Following your own Mercenary Company through the span of 3+ decades could be really good, and is not something done in a Mechwarrior game yet. It's always been just a few years in the previous ones.

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 09:29 AM

View PostSteinar Bergstol, on 18 December 2014 - 09:06 AM, said:


Excuse me for a moment while I go EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE like a squealing pre-teen girl at a boyband concert.

Come on, 3025-era campaign! Come on!

Ooooh! Or even better, a campaign which stretches from the days relatively "peaceful" time at the end of the 3rd Succession War in the early 3020's (around the time of the first Novels) through the outbreak of the 4th Succession War, the war of 3039 and all the way to and into the Clan Invasion. With some timeskips for the periods where nothing happened, of course. We could get lore tidbits like the formation and rise of the Gray Death Legion, the creation of the FedCom and Rasalhague, We could start with the "Mechs held together with spit, duct tape and hope" level of tech in the early days and then slowly get access to more advanced tech and even factory-new mechs as the information from the Helm Memory Core starts making its influence felt and so on and so forth.

Following your own Mercenary Company through the span of 3+ decades could be really good, and is not something done in a Mechwarrior game yet. It's always been just a few years in the previous ones.



I think the best option for them to do, would be two separate campaigns, one IS the other Clan, and have them like up around the time of battle of tukayyid.

The IS campaign would be merc focused, with 3 lance mates, that could be AI or drop-in/drop-out co-op per mission. As an aside to the merc focused, you could higher AI's and out fit them to run missions that you do not want to run. I've got a couple of ideas that I really should wright down and send in...

The Clan focused one, should start just before operation revival, and end with Tukayyid, your star mates should not be able to be ordered to focus fie, until then enemy does (something that would not happen until you face IS units), like the Merc campaign you start as a member of a star, but rise to the point of being a Galaxy Commander, able to issue clusters to battle on different operations.

View PostBishop Steiner, on 18 December 2014 - 08:15 AM, said:

Plus how does everyone know I really belong to the Lyran Faction? Steiner is also a Bloodname for Clan Cloud Cobra.


Or maybe, I'm this guy.......
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Cannot be, he is not a Luchador.... :P

I pay attention, you have stated on several occasions that you are in Mexico.

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 11:50 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 18 December 2014 - 09:29 AM, said:



I think the best option for them to do, would be two separate campaigns, one IS the other Clan, and have them like up around the time of battle of tukayyid.

The IS campaign would be merc focused, with 3 lance mates, that could be AI or drop-in/drop-out co-op per mission. As an aside to the merc focused, you could higher AI's and out fit them to run missions that you do not want to run. I've got a couple of ideas that I really should wright down and send in...

The Clan focused one, should start just before operation revival, and end with Tukayyid, your star mates should not be able to be ordered to focus fie, until then enemy does (something that would not happen until you face IS units), like the Merc campaign you start as a member of a star, but rise to the point of being a Galaxy Commander, able to issue clusters to battle on different operations.



Cannot be, he is not a Luchador.... :P

I pay attention, you have stated on several occasions that you are in Mexico.

face as pretty as mine, can't keep it behind a mask! ;)

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 12:16 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 18 December 2014 - 11:50 AM, said:

face as pretty as mine, can't keep it behind a mask! ;)

However, wearing a mask would bring you one step closer to being a Char Clone... ;)

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Expect to see these traits in a Char clone:
  • Blonde or otherwise pale hair. In case his hair is dark, it'll rarely be shown.
  • An Ace Custom Humongous Mecha (or plane/car/motorcycle/whatever), usually red (but occasionally gold, from Char's Zeta Gundam mecha). May be referenced as being three times better (especially faster) than normal.
  • A Cool Mask, or at the very least face-covering Cool Shades. This may be part of a Cool Helmet.
  • A Red Baron title, usually referencing their color of choice.
  • A Long-Lost Relative among the cast, allowing for The Reveal at a dramatically appropriate time. Frequently an Aloof Big Brother as well.

I don't know what color Bishop's hair is, but hair color is clearly not a disqualifying factor.
Bishop likely has several highly-customized 'Mechs. Surely, at least one of them is mostly red?
I seem to recall one of Bishop's (KGC-related?) posts referencing himself as a Viscount.
Bishop has claimed to be a distant cousin of Frederick Steiner (in reference to the change in his allegiance icon).

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 12:48 PM

View PostStrum Wealh, on 18 December 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:

However, wearing a mask would bring you one step closer to being a Char Clone... ;)

I don't know what color Bishop's hair is, but hair color is clearly not a disqualifying factor.
Bishop likely has several highly-customized 'Mechs. Surely, at least one of them is mostly red?
I seem to recall one of Bishop's (KGC-related?) posts referencing himself as a Viscount.
Bishop has claimed to be a distant cousin of Frederick Steiner (in reference to the change in his allegiance icon).

Favorite Nephew, actually.

really, coming from you, highly shoddy fact finding!

Though I would hardly be the first Steiner to find refuge in the Combine, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Assuming it's not all lies.

What if it's a clever ruse, an my name is really Cardinal Liao?

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 18 December 2014 - 12:49 PM.


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Posted 18 December 2014 - 12:52 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 18 December 2014 - 12:48 PM, said:

Favorite Nephew, actually.

really, coming from you, highly shoddy fact finding!

Though I would hardly be the first Steiner to find refuge in the Combine, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Assuming it's not all lies.

What if it's a clever ruse, an my name is really Cardinal Liao?


You do not seem insane enough to be a Liao....

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 12:53 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 18 December 2014 - 12:52 PM, said:


You do not seem insane enough to be a Liao....

the really crazy ones usually show it the least.

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 01:28 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 18 December 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

the really crazy ones usually show it the least.


True... and sanity is subjective....

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 01:51 PM

As the Malkaves say, the Madness is a gift, not a curse, and should be shared with others. :)

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 02:14 PM

View PostOvion, on 18 December 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

As the Malkaves say, the Madness is a gift, not a curse, and should be shared with others. :)


Really? 'Cause I thought that Malkaves said:

"Pink Squirrels where red hats!"

that is what they would say about madness....

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 02:15 PM

View PostOvion, on 18 December 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

As the Malkaves say, the Madness is a gift, not a curse, and should be shared with others. :)

Space vampires? Wow, that would a heck of a crossover...

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 02:18 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 18 December 2014 - 12:52 PM, said:


You do not seem insane enough to be a Liao....

View PostBishop Steiner, on 18 December 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

the really crazy ones usually show it the least.

View PostMetus regem, on 18 December 2014 - 01:28 PM, said:


True... and sanity is subjective....

It is the quiet and reasonable ones you need to be concerned about.

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 02:26 PM

View PostOvion, on 18 December 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

As the Malkaves say, the Madness is a gift, not a curse, and should be shared with others. :)

always thought they were Malkavians

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 02:27 PM

View PostSuckyJack, on 18 December 2014 - 02:18 PM, said:

It is the quiet and reasonable ones you need to be concerned about.


Those are the ones we gun down first.

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 02:55 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 18 December 2014 - 02:26 PM, said:

always thought they were Malkavians
Indeed they are, but Malkaves, or Malkav's Childer are acceptable terminology too. :)

View PostOdanan, on 18 December 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

Space vampires? Wow, that would a heck of a crossover...
No reason it couldn't be a thing, with the Masquerade still holding true. :P

View PostMetus regem, on 18 December 2014 - 02:14 PM, said:

Really? 'Cause I thought that Malkaves said:

"Pink Squirrels where red hats!"

that is what they would say about madness....
Some might.
But not all.

Madness takes many forms, but the penultiamte belief of the fair Malkavian, is that each Antediluvian had their gift, and that Malkav's gift was the greatest of all, that of the madness, the ability to see the truth of reality and strip away the lies.
And it's their solemn duty to spread this gift to those that are worthy.

Many Malkavians you may not even realise are such, as the insanity is subtle, a warped reality, or subtley crazy.
Some Malkavians may not even realise they are Malkavians. (Or Vampires, that can lead to hilarious (and/or short) experiences).
And others may not even be coherent, and just declare that the Pink Squirrels wear Red Hats.





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