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[TheArisen]

Madhornet drew the Rajin. http://i.imgur.com/McetSOf.jpg

Pretty cool eh?

[CDLord HHGD]

Odanan, on 02 November 2015 - 06:30 PM, said:

Here I go...
(selected packs in order of preference)

Liking the Phoenix II pack lineup. Does this assume the Archer and Rifleman are coming in packs like the marauder and Warhammer did?

[TheArisen]

cdlord, on 03 November 2015 - 11:10 AM, said:

Liking the Phoenix II pack lineup. Does this assume the Archer and Rifleman are coming in packs like the marauder and Warhammer did?

I'm pretty sure that those two coming in individual packs is what he mentioned in the first part of his quote.

[Odanan]

cdlord, on 03 November 2015 - 11:10 AM, said:

Liking the Phoenix II pack lineup. Does this assume the Archer and Rifleman are coming in packs like the marauder and Warhammer did?

Yes, I think the Archer and Rifleman would sell more than the Crusader in a standalone format. And they do have iconic hero mechs ("Phantom" and "Legend Killer"), while the Crusader has not.

[Hollow Earth]

Odanan, on 03 November 2015 - 03:46 AM, said:

You like it heavy! Whoa!

Well, other then the Phoenix Hawk that will eventually come, i can't really think of any good upcoming mediums since the Sphere is quite loaded with good medium designs. but the Heavies section generally felt lacking to me, though that would be solved with the arrival of the Marauder and Warhammer, (then the Archer, Crusader, Rifleman).

[Strum Wealh]

Odanan, on 03 November 2015 - 01:22 PM, said:

Yes, I think the Archer and Rifleman would sell more than the Crusader in a standalone format. And they do have iconic hero mechs ("Phantom" and "Legend Killer"), while the Crusader has not.

I'm pretty sure that the 40-ton Phantom ClanTech 'Mech (linked in the above-quoted post) has nothing to do with the Archer ( ), and Davis McCall (pilot of the Rifleman "Bannockburn") is at least as Iconic as Gray Norton (especially since the former actually survives for more than one book ).

Also, Galen Cox rather famously piloted a Crusader up to 3056 (the point at which he was - falsely - believed to be killed).

[CDLord HHGD]

Hollow Earth, on 03 November 2015 - 01:36 PM, said:

Well, other then the Phoenix Hawk that will eventually come, i can't really think of any good upcoming mediums since the Sphere is quite loaded with good medium designs. but the Heavies section generally felt lacking to me, though that would be solved with the arrival of the Marauder and Warhammer, (then the Archer, Crusader, Rifleman).

I'd like to see the Dervish........

[Juodas Varnas]

cdlord, on 03 November 2015 - 01:43 PM, said:

I'd like to see the Dervish........

And i'd like to see the Scorpion.

And the Vulcan.
And the Assassin.
Even the Whitworth, to be honest.

[TheArisen]

Juodas Varnas, on 03 November 2015 - 01:51 PM, said:

And i'd like to see the Scorpion.

And the Vulcan.
And the Assassin.
Even the Whitworth, to be honest.

And the Rajin
And the Lynx

There's a bunch of good mediums.

[Odanan]

Strum Wealh, on 03 November 2015 - 01:42 PM, said:

I'm pretty sure that the 40-ton Phantom ClanTech 'Mech (linked in the above-quoted post) has nothing to do with the Archer ( ), and Davis McCall (pilot of the Rifleman "Bannockburn") is at least as Iconic as Gray Norton (especially since the former actually survives for more than one book ).

Also, Galen Cox rather famously piloted a Crusader up to 3056 (the point at which he was - falsely - believed to be killed).

Since the Phantom omnimech will never come to the game (it is the most engine-oversized mech ever), I see no problem using it as the name of the Archer hero.

One more Grey Death Legion pilot? OK... (but isn't Legend Killer more impressive than Bannockburn?)

And about the Cox's Crusader, sure, eventually.

[Steinar Bergstol]

Phoenix Hawk. That is all.

Fine, fine. Assuming we will indeed see the rest of the Unseen (very likely by now I think) here's the Steinar Bergstol Approved Pack of Draconis Combine 3050+ Goodness (chosen partially because I wanna see what Alex would do with the designs):

Light: Hitman (3055)

30 ton electronic warfare scoutmech/spotter. Base variant comes with Endo Steel, a 210 XL engine, MASC, ECM, Beagle Active Probe, TAG, 1 LRM/5 w Artemis FCS and 3 Medium Lasers. Base speed 118,8 KPH (151,2 KPH w/MASC).

Medium: Komodo (3053)

The Draconis Combine's 45 ton answer to the clan Nova. Standard variant comes with 10 medium lasers (5 in each arm), 2 AMS systems, TAG to spot for Arrow IV and LRM mechs, 225 XL engine, ECM, 5 jumpjets, 14 Double Heatsinks. Base speed 86 KPH.

Heavy: Daikyu (3055)

Reasonably fast 70 ton long range mech. Standard variant comes with a 350 XL engine and 11 DHS, Endo Steel, CASE, 1 ER PPC, 1 LRM 5, 1 Medium Laser, 2 UAC/5.

Assault: Naginata (3055)

95 ton missile boat. 285 Standard engine and 15 DHS, C3 Master computer, CASE, 3 LRM/15 with Artemis FCS, 1 ER PPC. Also as a bonus the hero mech has a fairly prominent possible pilot as Tomoe Sakade, the wife of Theodore Kurita, and a trained O5P frikkin' ninja agent, piloted a Naginata until her death in the Combine/Ghost Bear war.

Edited by Steinar Bergstol, 04 November 2015 - 04:10 AM.

[Karl Streiger]

The Naginata isn't a good option (considering the "stock loadout")- did run my AS7-DDC with ECM, TAG; 3 ALRM15 and ERPPC when the Jesus Box was still a tool that did grant limited invulnerability.

Considering the Missile and Hardpoint inflation however..... 6 - 8 Missile Hardpoints - all 20s in rack size - lobbing ~ 100 LRMs would be interesting - or the chain of death firing 6-8 SRM6 in chain..... (its fun with my STK-5M - only with 5 SRM6s)

The Komodo would be cool - frankly an jump capable upgrade for the BJ-3X

Edited by Karl Streiger, 04 November 2015 - 05:04 AM.

[Ovion]

Steinar Bergstol, on 04 November 2015 - 04:09 AM, said:

Phoenix Hawk. That is all.

Fine, fine. Assuming we will indeed see the rest of the Unseen (very likely by now I think) here's the Steinar Bergstol Approved Pack of Draconis Combine 3050+ Goodness (chosen partially because I wanna see what Alex would do with the designs):

Light: Hitman (3055)

Spoiler

30 ton electronic warfare scoutmech/spotter. Base variant comes with Endo Steel, a 210 XL engine, MASC, ECM, Beagle Active Probe, TAG, 1 LRM/5 w Artemis FCS and 3 Medium Lasers. Base speed 118,8 KPH (151,2 KPH w/MASC).

Medium: Komodo (3053)

Spoiler

The Draconis Combine's 45 ton answer to the clan Nova. Standard variant comes with 10 medium lasers (5 in each arm), 2 AMS systems, TAG to spot for Arrow IV and LRM mechs, 225 XL engine, ECM, 5 jumpjets, 14 Double Heatsinks. Base speed 86 KPH.

Heavy: Daikyu (3055)

Spoiler

Reasonably fast 70 ton long range mech. Standard variant comes with a 350 XL engine and 11 DHS, Endo Steel, CASE, 1 ER PPC, 1 LRM 5, 1 Medium Laser, 2 UAC/5.

Assault: Naginata (3055)

Spoiler

95 ton missile boat. 285 Standard engine and 15 DHS, C3 Master computer, CASE, 3 LRM/15 with Artemis FCS, 1 ER PPC. Also as a bonus the hero mech has a fairly prominent possible pilot as Tomoe Sakade, the wife of Theodore Kurita, and a trained O5P frikkin' ninja agent, piloted a Naginata until her death in the Combine/Ghost Bear war.

I would love to see a good number of these, especially the Hitman.
Sadly for comfortable integration, most of these would need to be 3060-3070 for the required variants.

I need to get a couple of these for my Tabletop Collection still though....

[TheArisen]

With the Marauder & Whammer coming the least represented weight in the heavy class is the 60 tonners.
The IS could also use a lighter missile boat that could be a good light hunter/mobile lrmer.

My question is which mechs could fill those things well?

The lighter missile boat is an obvious one, it has to be the Assassin. The Cicada is the only 40 tonner & it doesn't have a serious ability to rock missiles.

Now for a strong 60 tonner. I think the Anvil would be absolutely perfect. High mounted weapons, shield arms, JJ, big engine, ECM & a missile variant.

Then there's a tie, for me anyway, between the Rifleman & the Lancelot. They're similar but I favour the Lancelot. It has a variant with JJ, & a variant with ballistics & in general has a bigger engine.

[Odanan]

TheArisen, on 04 November 2015 - 03:38 PM, said:

With the Marauder & Whammer coming the least represented weight in the heavy class is the 60 tonners.
The IS could also use a lighter missile boat that could be a good light hunter/mobile lrmer.

My question is which mechs could fill those things well?

The lighter missile boat is an obvious one, it has to be the Assassin. The Cicada is the only 40 tonner & it doesn't have a serious ability to rock missiles.

Now for a strong 60 tonner. I think the Anvil would be absolutely perfect. High mounted weapons, shield arms, JJ, big engine, ECM & a missile variant.

Then there's a tie, for me anyway, between the Rifleman & the Lancelot. They're similar but I favour the Lancelot. It has a variant with JJ, & a variant with ballistics & in general has a bigger engine.

Man, the Rifleman needs to be in the game, just because it's a classic from the very first Battletech box.

I don't think we will see more (non-Macross) 3025 chassis, but if we do, I hope the pack is Javelin (light), Vulcan or Assassin (medium), Lancelot (heavy) and Charger or Crockett (assault).

Edited by Odanan, 04 November 2015 - 04:57 PM.

[Strum Wealh]

Next Heavy 'Mech: the Champion!
(See here, here, and here.)

[Odanan]

Strum Wealh, on 04 November 2015 - 05:21 PM, said:

Next Heavy 'Mech: the Champion!
(See here, here, and here.)

This, again?

Champion is one of the last heavies I want to see in the game... (though it looks nice)

[TheArisen]

Odanan, on 04 November 2015 - 05:30 PM, said:

This, again?

Champion is one of the last heavies I want to see in the game... (though it looks nice)

Totally agree. Just about anything would be better than the Champion. The only reason I can come up with is to have a champion Champion.

[TheArisen]

Odanan, on 27 October 2015 - 08:23 AM, said:

The next IS mech pack will be of Macross Unseens for sure.

Light: Wasp (or Stinger, or Valkyrie, but Wasp more likely)
Medium: Phoenix Hawk
Heavy: Crusader (or Archer, or Rifleman - depending on which will be released standalone)
Assault: Longbow (Marauder II is too rare; Rifleman II is too extinct)

Anyway, Bushwacker is the strongest candidate for the medium weight class after the Phoenix Hawk. Maybe the Flea will finally get it's chance (specially now it has a 3d model), but I would prefer the Javelin or the Mongoose. Lancelot will certaily lose the heavy spot, since the Rifleman will get in, so the heavy will probably be some newer chassis, like the Gallowglas or War Dog. And for Assault, there are still so many good options...

After that, I can see PGI doing some leap to the future. Maybe even reaching for the MW4 mechs.

Hmm the Bushwhacker would be mediocre at best. :/ I hope ppl don't go with nostalgia so hard they forget how sucky it is to roll in a weak mech. I'd rather get the Assassin, Lynx, Rajin or even the Vulcan.

As far as heavies, I'm hoping ppl will choose quality. The Lancelot or Anvil would be a great choice.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Lancelot
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Anvil

There's the Merlin but it doesn't excite. Aside from nostalgia, why choose the Rifleman over the Lancelot or Anvil?

[Karl Streiger]

TheArisen, on 05 November 2015 - 01:22 AM, said:

There's the Merlin but it doesn't excite. Aside from nostalgia, why choose the Rifleman over the Lancelot or Anvil?

Cause of the Ballistics - the Lancelot is just another pure energy boat - the Anvil is well a Lancelot with a face lift - that doesn't has hardpoint inflation

- Merlin isn't it a 3005 Mech? It got all the stuff - ballistic, missiles, energy weapons - a smaller jumpcapable orion - or a heavy shadow hawk

Anyhow the 60t weight class is - meh - you will always have the mobility of heavys and the armor and fire power of mediums - and always the 55t Mechs will be more effective

Edited by Karl Streiger, 05 November 2015 - 03:47 AM.