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#13361 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 07:27 AM

View Postdervishx5, on 13 May 2016 - 05:57 AM, said:

lol that hollander is stupid looking.

Alright Bishop, what mech do you want?

Well, I'll leave this up to you.

Since I think Karmen Baric was the only other person to answer, I'd be totally down with a $20 dollar Standard Pack, and then offering Karmen a $20 Pack of choice. Mind you, your offer/your rules, so I'm just putting that out there.

As for me? Hmmm. I have the basic packs of all the IS mechs.... so would be something for my Clan Acct.... so... idk, I guess the Night Gyr?


*ps: Anyone else find the Old Mech Packs/Jumbo Packs and such...a trifle annoying? (As well as the lack of a la cartes in the gift store)?

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 07:30 AM

View PostFaithBombCRNA, on 13 May 2016 - 06:22 AM, said:


I bet he wants A-pods

Sadly PGI denied my my PBI slaughtering glory, first when they decided to not go combined arms, and second, when they further emphasized that there would never be any Poor Bloody Infantry by taking them away from the Hellbringer.

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 07:38 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 13 May 2016 - 07:27 AM, said:

Well, I'll leave this up to you.

Since I think Karmen Baric was the only other person to answer, I'd be totally down with a $20 dollar Standard Pack, and then offering Karmen a $20 Pack of choice. Mind you, your offer/your rules, so I'm just putting that out there.

As for me? Hmmm. I have the basic packs of all the IS mechs.... so would be something for my Clan Acct.... so... idk, I guess the Night Gyr?


*ps: Anyone else find the Old Mech Packs/Jumbo Packs and such...a trifle annoying? (As well as the lack of a la cartes in the gift store)?


I was considering doing that. If that's fine with you then that's what I'll do.

Also you blocked me or something so I can't PM you your code.

Edited by dervishx5, 13 May 2016 - 07:46 AM.


#13364 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 07:51 AM

View Postdervishx5, on 13 May 2016 - 07:38 AM, said:


I was considering doing that. If that's fine with you then that's what I'll do.

Also you blocked me or something so I can't PM you your code.

er?

Huh..... ok. lemme look in to that.

Huh. Yup. OK; whatever, undone now.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 13 May 2016 - 07:52 AM.


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Posted 13 May 2016 - 09:33 AM

View Postdervishx5, on 13 May 2016 - 06:07 AM, said:




Say Scorpion again.


FTFY

:P

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 02:28 PM

View PostGarfuncle, on 12 May 2016 - 10:28 AM, said:

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Can we talk about the Gauss Rifle on legs, the legendary Hollander? While I know we're not quite at THAT point in the timeline this would be the one IS light mech I would really like to get my hands on. Can you imagine an entire light lance of Hollanders all taking aim at the same target? Now THAT is what I wanna see.

Less impressive than you'd think.

1) Because of charge up, it takes a small modicum of skill to use. Thus most people who would be tempted would miss more than 50% of the time, in MWO.

2) Unless it was coordinated highly skilled players, they would probably not all hit the same location, IF they all hit.

3) 1-2 volleys is all you'd get since even with an XL, it'd be slow as heck, with no lagshield, and packing a Gauss. Next to an XL.

I good alpha per RT, dead Hollander.

Mind you, the Beef would probably still do it. So there is that.

Sadly, the nature of MWO has largely made the Hollander DoA before it's even conceived. Viva la open Mechlab and Instagib, EZmode aiming!

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 08:57 PM

Hmmmm these Kodiak quriks got me wondering a bit now about other mechs.

Viper get Cicada like quirks?
Night Gyr ummm Black Knight quirks o.O
IiC's getting better quirks like their IS older brothers?

Also wonder what would the Mk II get as well now :P

Edited by CK16, 13 May 2016 - 08:58 PM.


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Posted 13 May 2016 - 08:59 PM

View PostCK16, on 13 May 2016 - 08:57 PM, said:

Hmmmm these Kodiak quriks got me wondering a bit now about other mechs.

Viper get Cicada like quirks?
Night Gyr ummm Black Knight quirks o.O

Also wonder what would the Mk II get as well now :P


I doubt the Gyr will get BK lvl quirks, the BK got those quirks to save it from the trash heap.

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 11:01 AM

The Cyclops got the lore/blueprint... it looks like the next mech for sale can't be too far of been announced.

So... it's the Black Lanner?

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 11:07 AM

View PostOdanan, on 16 May 2016 - 11:01 AM, said:

The Cyclops got the lore/blueprint... it looks like the next mech for sale can't be too far of been announced.

So... it's the Black Lanner?


By Kerensky's grizzled grey hairs I hope not.... I'd like PGI to do something whacky and unexpected and pull out the Lupus, Woodsmen or Crossbow.....


As an aside Odanan, it is very strange seeing you with a Clan Wolf flag.... Almost as strange as it was to see Bishop with a Katura flag for a while....

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 11:16 AM

View PostOdanan, on 16 May 2016 - 11:01 AM, said:

The Cyclops got the lore/blueprint... it looks like the next mech for sale can't be too far of been announced.

So... it's the Black Lanner?


Let's hope Pgi pulls a "You don't know what you really want" and announces the Huntsman or something.

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 11:16 AM

View PostOdanan, on 16 May 2016 - 11:01 AM, said:

The Cyclops got the lore/blueprint... it looks like the next mech for sale can't be too far of been announced.

So... it's the Black Lanner?

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confirmed XL Engine DoA.

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 11:30 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 16 May 2016 - 11:07 AM, said:

As an aside Odanan, it is very strange seeing you with a Clan Wolf flag.... Almost as strange as it was to see Bishop with a Katura flag for a while....

I know... but not my choice, really. :/

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 11:30 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 16 May 2016 - 11:16 AM, said:

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confirmed XL Engine DoA.



"My, what large ST's you have!"

--- Star Captain Adoins Wolf of Clan Wolf Beta Galaxy when facing a Cyclops for the first time, only to find that it fell easily to his Timber Wolf's laser fire into the right side torso.

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 11:31 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 16 May 2016 - 11:16 AM, said:

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confirmed XL Engine DoA.

Anyone really surprised?

Most IS assaults can't run XL engines unless the pilot has a really strong deathwish.

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 11:32 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 16 May 2016 - 11:31 AM, said:

Anyone really surprised?

Most IS assaults can't run XL engines unless the pilot has a really strong deathwish.



Another reason to give the L.F.E. a little weight saving for a little more fire power....

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 11:53 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 16 May 2016 - 11:07 AM, said:

By Kerensky's grizzled grey hairs I hope not.... I'd like PGI to do something whacky and unexpected and pull out the Lupus, Woodsmen or Crossbow.....


As an aside Odanan, it is very strange seeing you with a Clan Wolf flag.... Almost as strange as it was to see Bishop with a Katura flag for a while....

wuts a Katura?

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 16 May 2016 - 11:31 AM, said:

Anyone really surprised?

Most IS assaults can't run XL engines unless the pilot has a really strong deathwish.

Can't run XLs, and having STs that make Atlases look like they skipped Pec and Trap day, not really one and the same.

Mind you, the source art made that pretty apparent. But in the Era of Instagib MWO we are living in, it's not a good thing.

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 11:57 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 13 May 2016 - 02:28 PM, said:

Less impressive than you'd think.

1) Because of charge up, it takes a small modicum of skill to use. Thus most people who would be tempted would miss more than 50% of the time, in MWO.

2) Unless it was coordinated highly skilled players, they would probably not all hit the same location, IF they all hit.

3) 1-2 volleys is all you'd get since even with an XL, it'd be slow as heck, with no lagshield, and packing a Gauss. Next to an XL.

I good alpha per RT, dead Hollander.

Mind you, the Beef would probably still do it. So there is that.

Sadly, the nature of MWO has largely made the Hollander DoA before it's even conceived. Viva la open Mechlab and Instagib, EZmode aiming!


Sadly this is pretty much true...so....

Hollander II? :D

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 12:03 PM

View PostVirlutris, on 12 May 2016 - 01:14 PM, said:


But, that's kinda the point of using the Firestarter as the knock-off, isn't it? I mean, it's got torso mounts available. Hollander is humanoid and torso-mounted, right? What am I missing?

Quirks (or Raven arms) may make another 35-tonner better with it, but for best approximation of the chassi, I don't get why anyone would use something other than the Firestarter to do that.


You could use a Firestarter I suppose, but I think the biggest point of the Hollander is it has a very high mount ballistic for sniping. A Firestarter's ballistic mounts aren't up in the shoulder if I remember.

The Firestarter probably looks the part a bit more, but I think the Raven with the Gauss firing position accomplishes the task closer to how the Hollander does.

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 12:06 PM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 16 May 2016 - 11:57 AM, said:

Sadly this is pretty much true...so....

Hollander II? Posted Image

It's called a "Grid Iron" or even better HBK IIC





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