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[Bishop Steiner]

CK16, on 08 August 2016 - 09:16 AM, said:

I assume Mk II and being rather ornery on it towards some players? Haha

If not please enlighten here haha

*sigh* I swear kids these days need their hands held.....

[Metus regem]

Bishop Steiner, on 08 August 2016 - 09:18 AM, said:

*sigh* I swear kids these days need their hands held.....

I still laugh when seeing that Atlas take it in the eye....

[CK16]

Oh, that boring stale game

You know it would be interesting if they did a pre Revival Clan campaign and it was all just Trials and pure Zellbringen among just clans....just saying be something never really touched on.

[Bishop Steiner]

CK16, on 08 August 2016 - 09:21 AM, said:

Oh, that boring stale game

You know it would be interesting if they did a pre Revival Clan campaign and it was all just Trials and pure Zellbringen among just clans....just saying be something never really touched on.

yeah..like watching robots do pistol duels at 20 paces.... that'd be exciting. Face it..having to adapt to the IS and outgrow your inbred boring little rituals was the best thing to ever happen to you Vatbrats.

A clan Zel Combat simulator would look akin to Duck Hunt from the old NES......

[Metus regem]

CK16, on 08 August 2016 - 09:21 AM, said:

Oh, that boring stale game

You know it would be interesting if they did a pre Revival Clan campaign and it was all just Trials and pure Zellbringen among just clans....just saying be something never really touched on.

Tradition has it's place, combat is not one of those places, that proved to be the downfall of the clans, as they were unwilling or unable to adapt quickly to face the IS on the IS's terms. Expecting the IS to fight via Zel was foolish and short sighted by the clans. as was their line of thinking that the IS would welcome them as rulers once they had taken Terra.

[Tordin]

Zen mech game is zen. Bring it on Battletech!

[CK16]

Metus regem, on 08 August 2016 - 09:46 AM, said:

Tradition has it's place, combat is not one of those places, that proved to be the downfall of the clans, as they were unwilling or unable to adapt quickly to face the IS on the IS's terms. Expecting the IS to fight via Zel was foolish and short sighted by the clans. as was their line of thinking that the IS would welcome them as rulers once they had taken Terra.

While yes naive of them for the most part, specially on an opponent entirely oblivious to the tradition (and honor ) of Zell. If both sides follow it as intended does make for some unique fights. I was strictly talking like about this time over in Clan space the clans would be getting ready right? Why not have trials of refusal players can take place in? Or taking part in the trials to see if your clan is worthy to take part in the invasion? Just Clan v Clan. Crusader v Warden? No IS freebirths to tangle with. Or say campaigns to provide your self as a Freeborn in Clan military?

[Kael Posavatz]

Bishop Steiner, on 08 August 2016 - 09:23 AM, said:

yeah..like watching robots do pistol duels at 20 paces.... that'd be exciting. Face it..having to adapt to the IS and outgrow your inbred boring little rituals was the best thing to ever happen to you Vatbrats.

A clan Zel Combat simulator would look akin to Duck Hunt from the old NES......

I liked duck hunt.

[Bishop Steiner]

CK16, on 08 August 2016 - 10:27 AM, said:

While yes naive of them for the most part, specially on an opponent entirely oblivious to the tradition (and honor ) of Zell. If both sides follow it as intended does make for some unique fights. I was strictly talking like about this time over in Clan space the clans would be getting ready right? Why not have trials of refusal players can take place in? Or taking part in the trials to see if your clan is worthy to take part in the invasion? Just Clan v Clan. Crusader v Warden? No IS freebirths to tangle with. Or say campaigns to provide your self as a Freeborn in Clan military?

eh, Clans suck. And so do their Clan-Bois!

[Odanan]

CK16, on 08 August 2016 - 09:21 AM, said:

Oh, that boring stale game

Oh no, you didn't say that.

[TheArisen]

Odanan, on 08 August 2016 - 10:59 AM, said:

Oh no, you didn't say that.

Haha to be fair Bishop was going pretty hard at the Clans.

[Bishop Steiner]

TheArisen, on 08 August 2016 - 11:04 AM, said:

Haha to be fair Bishop was going pretty hard at the Clans.

Clans deserve it though. Bunch of monty haul, power creep wannabe space mongol Flurries that only appeal to Dragonball Z and Sailor Moon fanbois....

[FLG 01]

Reading Betrayal of Ideals should cure Clan madness. It is a mandatory read anyway and it will be republished as a stand-alone novel this year, so no excuses.

[Strum Wealh]

Bishop Steiner, on 08 August 2016 - 11:30 AM, said:

Clans deserve it though. Bunch of monty haul, power creep wannabe space mongol Flurries that only appeal to Dragonball Z and Sailor Moon fanbois....

IMO, it's neither fair or accurate to blame DBZ (or DB in general) and SM for the failings of the Clans...

[CK16]

Wouldn't wanna be of DBZ and SM be Kurita? ....

[Bishop Steiner]

Strum Wealh, on 08 August 2016 - 12:03 PM, said:

IMO, it's neither fair or accurate to blame DBZ (or DB in general) and SM for the failings of the Clans...

I don't blame either for the Clans. I simply said they appeal to the same mindest of confusing poorly written, flashy piles of pooh for being good. DB followed even more predictable episodic structures than even Voltron did...and you KNEW every episode was going to end with forming Voltron and using the Flaming Sword to cut the Robeast in half!

As opposed to good, well written (and generally better illustrated) anime like Appleseed, Akira, Patlabor, New Domnion Tank Police, Ghost in the Shell (though stand alone complex was crap) Macross, Votoms, etc, etc, etc.

Indicative of the same 90s mentality to at overhyped Wolverine and Punisher as the supposed end all be all characters of Marvel, brought sword swinging Gundams to Battletech and largely ruined rock music til the middle of the 2000s.

(Yes, I generally wish that the decade from 1994-2003 could be wiped from existence, as it was generally a creative graveyard filled with realyl limp offerings like NuMetal, DBZ, etc. Not that I have any kind of strongly opinionated bias about it or anything, though.)

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 08 August 2016 - 12:51 PM.

[FLG 01]

I just got note of a possible Grasshopper Hero Mech.
It is the personal Mech of Lord Stephan Roark, ex-SLDF Captain, who did not join Kerensky’s Exodus. We do not know if his Grasshopper was a prototype or a field modification, and we do not have a record sheet. It is featured in the BC short story A Soldier’s Priviledge (Jason Schmetzer), providing some details:

280 VOX engine

Jump Jets

ECM

2x MPL in RA

2x MPL in LA

1x LL in CT (possibly ER LL)

1x LRM5 in H

Obviously the ECM is the most interesting aspect of this Mech, and perhaps its needs quirks and/or a hardpoint inflation. But having a fully canonical Hero Mech would be very, very nice either way.

edit: corrected the link.

Edited by FLG 01, 08 August 2016 - 02:11 PM.

[Kael Posavatz]

FLG 01, on 08 August 2016 - 01:55 PM, said:

I just got note of a possible Grasshopper Hero Mech.
It is the personal Mech of Lord Stephan Roark, ex-SLDF Captain, who did not join Kerensky’s Exodus. We do not know if his Grasshopper was a prototype or a field modification, and we do not have a record sheet. It is featured in the BC short story A Soldier’s Priviledge (Jason Schmetzer), providing some details:

280 VOX engine

Jump Jets

ECM

2x MPL in RA

2x MPL in LA

1x LL in CT (possibly ER LL)

1x LRM5 in H

Obviously the ECM is the most interesting aspect of this Mech, and perhaps its needs quirks and/or a hardpoint inflation. But having a fully canonical Hero Mech would be very, very nice either way.

Source or rumor-mongering!

[Brain Cancer]

http://www.sarna.net...r%27s_Privilege as the link up there is busted.

[FLG 01]

Yes, I did provide the source. It is the short story A Soldier’s Priviledge. The ECM e.g. is featured on page 3.
But you have to forgive me that I will not break copyright laws and post the whole story

Edit: ah, I see the link did not work. Still, source is this story.

Edited by FLG 01, 08 August 2016 - 02:06 PM.