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#14361 jss78

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 03:29 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 25 August 2016 - 03:01 PM, said:

isn't part of the meta cramming huge engines and small lasers on assault mechs? See the Charger was just ahead of it's time!


I think PGI should go full troll and put an STD-400 in one of the supply caches. I see they already have a Vindicator in one.

#14362 Kael Posavatz

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 06:34 PM

Light buggy mech. We haven't had light mechs since December (Clans) and October (IS) since 2015. So...stinger, wasp, flea? well, maybe not the flea.

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 06:39 PM

View PostKael Posavatz, on 25 August 2016 - 06:34 PM, said:

Light buggy mech. We haven't had light mechs since December (Clans) and October (IS) since 2015. So...stinger, wasp, flea? well, maybe not the flea.

Certainly not the Flea. ;P

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 06:50 PM

View Postjss78, on 25 August 2016 - 03:29 PM, said:

I think PGI should go full troll and put an STD-400 in one of the supply caches. I see they already have a Vindicator in one.


Can you get more full troll than a Vindicator?

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 07:01 PM

View PostOdanan, on 10 May 2016 - 08:10 AM, said:

And the newer omnimechs:
  • Hellion
  • Cougar
  • Nova Cat
  • Blood Asp



If you guys introduce the Cougar, Nova Cat, and Blood Asp... Oh man... I'm gonna love this game sho much.

#14366 Odanan

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 07:09 PM

View PostArchangel Dino, on 25 August 2016 - 07:01 PM, said:

If you guys introduce the Cougar, Nova Cat, and Blood Asp... Oh man... I'm gonna love this game sho much.

We will get there... eventually.

#14367 Imperius

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 08:03 PM

View PostOdanan, on 25 August 2016 - 07:09 PM, said:

We will get there... eventually.


If PGI can afford low sale after low sale. They are trying to milk all the old design money before those users jump ship to HBS.

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 12:51 AM

View PostArchangel Dino, on 25 August 2016 - 07:01 PM, said:


If you guys introduce the Cougar, Nova Cat, and Blood Asp... Oh man... I'm gonna love this game sho much.


Well, with the Night Gyr coming out next month, there is no real need for the Nova Cat IMO.

NTG-A: Left Arm - 3 energy (3 ER Large Lasers)
NTG-JK: Right Arm - 2 energy (2 ER PPCs)

Edited by Uncle Totty, 26 August 2016 - 12:52 AM.


#14369 Kanil

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 03:08 AM

View PostImperius, on 25 August 2016 - 08:03 PM, said:

If PGI can afford low sale after low sale. They are trying to milk all the old design money before those users jump ship to HBS.

Ah yes, gotta get that money from the 3025 snobs, with classic stuff like the Huntsman and Marauder IIC...

#14370 Odanan

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 05:40 AM

View PostKanil, on 26 August 2016 - 03:08 AM, said:

Ah yes, gotta get that money from the 3025 snobs, with classic stuff like the Huntsman and Marauder IIC...

Well, the "classic" Clan mechs are pretty over right now... (maybe only the Warhammer IIC and Rifleman IIC remain).

BTW, next Clan mech: Rifleman IIC. I bet!


PS: talking about classics, let's see the Mechwarrior II Mercenaries mech list:

Inner Sphere:
  • Hornet
  • Commando - in MWO
  • Mongoose
  • Battle Hawk
  • Javelin
  • Urbanmech - in MWO
  • Jenner - in MWO
  • Panther - in MWO
  • Raven - in MWO
  • Assassin
  • Cicada - in MWO
  • Clint
  • Sentinel
  • Whitworth
  • Vindicator - in MWO
  • Wolf Trap
  • Centurion - in MWO
  • Crab - in MWO
  • Grim Reaper
  • Hunchback - in MWO
  • Trebuchet - in MWO
  • Dragon - in MWO
  • Quickdraw - in MWO
  • Bombardier
  • Catapult - in MWO
  • Jagermech - in MWO
  • Flashman
  • Orion - in MWO
  • Rakshasa
  • Awesome - in MWO
  • Hatamoto-Chi
  • Salamander
  • Thug
  • Victor - in MWO
  • Zeus - in MWO
  • Stalker - in MWO
  • Cyclops - in MWO
  • Highlander - in MWO
  • Mauler - in MWO
  • Annihilator
  • Atlas - in MWO
Clans:
  • Firemoth (Dasher)
  • Kit Fox (Uller) - in MWO
  • Jenner IIC - in MWO
  • Phantom
  • Nova (Black Hawk) - in MWO
  • Stormcrow (Ryoken) - in MWO
  • Mad Dog (Vulture) - in MWO
  • Cauldron-Born - in MWO
  • Hellbringer (Loki) - in MWO
  • Linebacker - in MWO
  • Grizzly
  • Summoner (Thor) - in MWO
  • Timber Wolf (Mad Cat) - in MWO
  • Gargoyle (Man'o'war) - in MWO
  • Naga
  • Warhawk (Masakari) - in MWO
  • Executioner (Gladiator) - in MWO
  • Dire Wolf (Daishi) - in MWO
  • Kodiak - in MWO
Plus a few from MW2/MW2:GBL (most removed from the sequel because of Unseen shenanigans) :

Inner Sphere:
  • Tarantula (quad mech)
  • Battlemaster - in MWO
Clans:
  • Incubus
  • Horned Owl
  • Rifleman IIC
  • Warhammer IIC
  • Marauder IIC - in MWO
  • Stone Rhino
(highlighted those which will probably show up sooner)

Edited by Odanan, 26 August 2016 - 05:42 AM.


#14371 Metus regem

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 07:33 AM

View PostShadowbaneX, on 25 August 2016 - 06:50 PM, said:


Can you get more full troll than a Vindicator?


Yes, yes you can...

http://www.sarna.net...om_(BattleMech)

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What's that you say, a 40t mech with a locked 360xl engine?

#14372 jss78

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 07:47 AM

View PostShadowbaneX, on 25 August 2016 - 06:50 PM, said:


Can you get more full troll than a Vindicator?


Well it's the 1AA which is actually a decent 'mech. They could've put the 1X there :-P

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 08:14 AM

View PostOdanan, on 26 August 2016 - 05:40 AM, said:

Well, the "classic" Clan mechs are pretty over right now... (maybe only the Warhammer IIC and Rifleman IIC remain).

Right, the Warhammer IICs that came with the Wolf's Dragoons, how could I forget. Posted Image

My point was that if PGI is milking the HBS crowd as Imperius claims, then they're doing a pretty bad job of it -- none of their last 5 'mechs are going to be featured in the HBS game.

#14374 Metus regem

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 08:15 AM

View PostKanil, on 26 August 2016 - 08:14 AM, said:

Right, the Warhammer IICs that came with the Wolf's Dragoons, how could I forget. Posted Image

My point was that if PGI is milking the HBS crowd as Imperius claims, then they're doing a pretty bad job of it -- none of their last 5 'mechs are going to be featured in the HBS game.



That we know of, they have been hinting about adding other mechs, like the Black Knight and Cyclops...

#14375 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 08:40 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 26 August 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:



That we know of, they have been hinting about adding other mechs, like the Black Knight and Cyclops...

Yes, but the wave of Clan Mechs are only going to be IF (a very likely if) there is an expansion, which would probably be the third one. So aside from the Cyclops and Hawk, they've not exactly been catering to HBS the last half year or so.

Hence Impy's barb is deflected by facts (again)

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 08:41 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 26 August 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:

That we know of, they have been hinting about adding other mechs, like the Black Knight and Cyclops...

Black Knight is so badass in TT (well, all Medium Laser and/or PPC boats are).

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 08:43 AM

View PostKanil, on 26 August 2016 - 08:14 AM, said:

Right, the Warhammer IICs that came with the Wolf's Dragoons, how could I forget. Posted Image

My point was that if PGI is milking the HBS crowd as Imperius claims, then they're doing a pretty bad job of it -- none of their last 5 'mechs are going to be featured in the HBS game.

What Warhammer IICs with Wolfs Dragoons? Source?

View PostOdanan, on 26 August 2016 - 08:41 AM, said:

Black Knight is so badass in TT (well, all Medium Laser and/or PPC boats are).

Yes, and also released a long time ago, so not sure how it's germane to discussions about what is being made for HBS or not?

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 08:48 AM

Yeah, I thought the dragoons didn't bring clan-unique Mechs... that would have blown their cover much worse than bringing just LosTech.

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 08:55 AM

View PostProsperity Park, on 26 August 2016 - 08:48 AM, said:

Yeah, I thought the dragoons didn't bring clan-unique Mechs... that would have blown their cover much worse than bringing just LosTech.



Depending on the source you read, they either had cutting edge clan tech stashed away on Outreach or not....

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 08:58 AM

View PostProsperity Park, on 26 August 2016 - 08:48 AM, said:

Yeah, I thought the dragoons didn't bring clan-unique Mechs... that would have blown their cover much worse than bringing just LosTech.


Well, they had specs to build omnis and such later, and their ships did have updated mechs and a few snafus (Annihilator, Imp, Shogun, etc) but actual original Clan Mechs, I believe you are correct. And even stuff like the Annihilator they left in mothballs with their warships in the deep periphery until their 09 supply run.

But with all the rectcons, you never know any more. After all, apparently the (originally stock) MAD-3R Marauder that the Bounty Hunter took from Kerensky is now a lostech treasure trove. *SMH*

Yes, retcons sometimes are needed, but I hate retcons "just because" that do nothing to actually benefit the story, and everything to destroy the backstory for those who played the game from the get go.





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