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[SMDMadCow]

Gasoline, on 20 July 2017 - 05:37 AM, said:

But... but... 100t Urbie... Me want...

Not on a clan list, it would end up IS.

[Ovion]

Pariah Devalis, on 19 July 2017 - 05:27 PM, said:

Noticed you accidentally misfiled the Nova Cat in the 75-ton zone instead of the 70-ton zone. 80 is the other tonnage point where options are especially lacking in comparison. 55, 60, and 80.

Wonder what 80 ton Clan options even exist, outside of the Warhammer IIC.

Canis
Phoenix Hawk IIC
Warhammer IIC
Naga (But that isn't happening because Arrows)

Not many to pick from.

Ooops, fixed that and neatened it up.

SMDMadCow, on 20 July 2017 - 05:58 AM, said:

Not on a clan list, it would end up IS.

Wouldn't it be awesome if we had some mechs that were both IS and clan though?
Not mixtech or anything, but it would appear in both the 'clan' and 'IS' lists in the mechbay / Faction Warfare.

[Metus regem]

TheArisen, on 19 July 2017 - 09:22 PM, said:

Well the 65t slot for IS is kinda crowded. 60 & 75 have 3 each. You mentioned all the great 75t options but for a 60t there are 3 good choices.

1. Black Hawk KU
http://www.sarna.net...i/Black_Hawk-KU

2. Anvil
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Anvil

3. Lancelot
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Lancelot

I like the Anvil best but I'd be happy with all 3.

I second the Anvil... can we also get the Hammer while we are at it?

[TheArisen]

Metus regem, on 20 July 2017 - 06:37 AM, said:

I second the Anvil... can we also get the Hammer while we are at it?

It wouldn't make sense not to introduce the buddy mech.

Another thing to note about those 60t options is the Black Hawk Ku is an omni. Russ said there are no plans for IS Omni's currently so it's not likely the BKKU will be announced this year.

The Lancelot is a Rifleman with a much bigger engine & JJ. Would be cool but the Anvil is more unique.

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TheArisen, on 20 July 2017 - 06:48 AM, said:

Another thing to note about those 60t options is the Black Hawk Ku is an omni. Russ said there are no plans for IS Omni's currently so it's not likely the BKKU will be announced this year.

The Lancelot is a Rifleman with a much bigger engine & JJ. Would be cool but the Anvil is more unique.

Actually, iirc, in the last townhall it was said that IS Omnis are coming, but probably not in 2017. So IS Omnis are an option and might be announced late this year if we are lucky.

Anyway, yes I would support the Lancelot. It is classic Mech that looks cool, comes with many different variants, and appeals to my cavalry playstyle.

Edited by FLG 01, 20 July 2017 - 06:59 AM.

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FLG 01, on 20 July 2017 - 06:59 AM, said:

Actually, iirc, in the last townhall it was said that IS Omnis are coming, but probably not in 2017. So IS Omnis are an option and might be announced late this year if we are lucky.

Anyway, yes I would support the Lancelot. It is classic Mech that looks cool, comes with many different variants, and appeals to my cavalry playstyle.

Indeed.

Yeah the Lancelot can fit a 400 if you really wanted it to... It'd be hilarious. 60t mech that can run 120kph give or take.

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Pirahna
Black Lanner
Thanatos
Fafnir

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Ovion, on 20 July 2017 - 06:35 AM, said:

Ooops, fixed that and neatened it up.








Wouldn't it be awesome if we had some mechs that were both IS and clan though?
Not mixtech or anything, but it would appear in both the 'clan' and 'IS' lists in the mechbay / Faction Warfare.

Not gonna lie, that would have a pretty sweet geek factor to it.

[Odanan]

Rampage, on 20 July 2017 - 07:07 AM, said:

Pirahna
Black Lanner
Thanatos
Fafnir

A lot of bets on the Thanatos... are you guys sure of this?

[Metus regem]

Odanan, on 20 July 2017 - 08:51 AM, said:

A lot of bets on the Thanatos... are you guys sure of this?

It is a solid heavy, with a lot of drive for it from the MW4 fan base... personally I would rather have the Crusader...

[Gasoline]

Thanatos is an IS Omni tho... Dunno if PGI already has a plan for IS Omnis.

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Gasoline, on 20 July 2017 - 09:36 AM, said:

Thanatos is an IS Omni tho... Dunno if PGI already has a plan for IS Omnis.

It's not an omni. Has some interesting fluff about it originally being intended as an Omni but switching gears through development.

Edited by Precentor Martial Donald J Trump, 20 July 2017 - 09:39 AM.

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Gasoline, on 20 July 2017 - 09:36 AM, said:

Thanatos is an IS Omni tho... Dunno if PGI already has a plan for IS Omnis.

It's not an omni.

[Odanan]

Metus regem, on 20 July 2017 - 08:56 AM, said:

It is a solid heavy, with a lot of drive for it from the MW4 fan base... personally I would rather have the Crusader...

It's a solid heavy, but as discussed here, it has C3, an equipment that doesn't exist in MWO (and most likely never will). Sure, PGI can replace that piece of equipment by, lets say, a DHS. There are only 2 (3, counting a hero) fitting variants, so PGI would need to invent at least 3 more. Also, it's not the most best looking MW4 mech - I'm not in a hurry to see it in MWO.

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Odanan, on 20 July 2017 - 10:11 AM, said:

It's a solid heavy, but as discussed here, it has C3, an equipment that doesn't exist in MWO (and most likely never will). Sure, PGI can replace that piece of equipment by, lets say, a DHS. There are only 2 (3, counting a hero) fitting variants, so PGI would need to invent at least 3 more. Also, it's not the most best looking MW4 mech - I'm not in a hurry to see it in MWO.

Like I said, I'd be more than over joyed to get the Crusader, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Thanatos at this point. To be fair, getting the Stinger or Wasp should've been more likely (and in my opinion more deserving) than the Osiris that we did get with the escalation pack. Since the Osiris was in the escalation pack and was brought to the forefront with the MW4 era of games, I am more inclined to expect PGI to go with more MW4 mechs for a while. We've already seen PGI sub in equipment on mechs for other things, point in example the extra armour that the Hellbringer got rather than keeping the useless Anti-infantry pods found on the prime.

[TheArisen]

Odanan, on 20 July 2017 - 08:51 AM, said:

A lot of bets on the Thanatos... are you guys sure of this?

I don't see C3 as a problem. Things have been replaced before.

The only point against the Crusader is it's 65t which is a saturated weight bracket but I do think it'd be a good mech.

[SMDMadCow]

TheArisen, on 20 July 2017 - 10:41 AM, said:

I don't see C3 as a problem. Things have been replaced before.

The only point against the Crusader is it's 65t which is a saturated weight bracket but I do think it'd be a good mech.

I agree, could easily be replaced with a TC, since PGI has ignored the tonnage requirements for those too.

[Requiemking]

Odanan, on 20 July 2017 - 10:11 AM, said:

It's a solid heavy, but as discussed here, it has C3, an equipment that doesn't exist in MWO (and most likely never will). Sure, PGI can replace that piece of equipment by, lets say, a DHS. There are only 2 (3, counting a hero) fitting variants, so PGI would need to invent at least 3 more. Also, it's not the most best looking MW4 mech - I'm not in a hurry to see it in MWO.

As I've been saying for a while now, C3 should be necessary for target sharing. And before you give me the whole "target sharing is part of the lore" spiel, target sharing was never dealt with in the rules. The closest thing to target sharing in the rules was C3 and C3i. It's the same reason why Arty/Airstrike can be bound to TAG and it wouldn't be anti-lore to do so, because MWO never actually tells you what kind of artillery is supporting you.

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Wasn't the charger plagued with problems though? It's nothing that I have against the mech itself, but from what I read out there some of it's original variants of the mech are god awful. I'm not too sure if 5x small lasers and ten tons of armor are going to be a strong selling point unless it's quirked to death (which I'm aware that it has better variants and most people will upgrade the CGR-1A1 model). It's other models look somewhat decent and would be it's saving grace at least.

The original had it's issues much like the original Banshee did, but the design flourished in it's multitude of variants, with the 3050 XL version curing it's one biggest ill. The -SB was the original large laser boat equivalent to the 3025-era Awesome.

Even the stock version's problems had some logic- the thing was designed as a tough recon machine that was fast enough and durable enough to bulldoze through things, but not armed well enough to encourage it to stay. The combat variants all downgrade the engine to give it proper guns for an assault, instead.

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target sharing was never dealt with in the rules

Tournament rules state that any unit visible to anyone else can have it's stats examined by any player (friendly or not) at any time.

If that isn't sharing target data, what is?

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Brain Cancer, on 20 July 2017 - 10:58 AM, said:

Tournament rules state that any unit visible to anyone else can have it's stats examined by any player (friendly or not) at any time.

If that isn't sharing target data, what is?

Yes and no. Much like with the whole Artillery issue, they never actually explained how this was done. It could have been done through a computer network, but then thats basically C3. Or, it could have been that the ally Mechwarrior was reading the target data off of his display to you via a two-way radio, much like in-game VOIP.