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#21 R Razor

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 08:47 PM

View PostCer6erus, on 20 December 2014 - 08:40 PM, said:

Well, choosing Timberwolfs and Stormcrows over Novas and Summoners is a no brainer :D
But I'm really pissed the Clan has no decent lights. I get so frustrated with all your missile spewing huggins and SPL firestarters, it also makes me want to cry...
I need to invest in streaks.



And choosing PPC and MPL T-Bolts over Quickdraws and Jags is a no brainer as well..............so again, not getting the complaint here at all.

#22 Alistair Winter

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 08:50 PM

This is what happens when PGI wants to buff every mech in the game to be almost as good as the Timber Wolf (but not quite as good, because reasons), instead of just nerfing the Timber Wolf.

#23 Brody319

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 08:57 PM

I had a guy tell me I was a noob because I basically told him to stop sucking when he complained about the Timberwolf, Stormcrow, and Direwolf in game.

Really the only one I would agree is rather broken is the Stormcrow, and Its not broken because it has a lot of fire power, its broken because its hitboxes are messed up.

Really I think the problem is people just can't or refuse to adapt.
Direwolf, get to the side, shoot off its STs and it loses all its firepower and dies. Also the STs have a lot less armor. ALT: Get behind it and kill it, they often times front load all their armor.
Timberwolf, Shoot its shoulders. those count as STs and will kill it really fast, also strips off half its weapons.
Stormcrow, Shoot its legs, it will die fast, can hit them from any side, they are ******* huges, and it won't be able to move fast once one is gone.

#24 R Razor

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 08:59 PM

View PostBrody319, on 20 December 2014 - 08:57 PM, said:

I had a guy tell me I was a noob because I basically told him to stop sucking when he complained about the Timberwolf, Stormcrow, and Direwolf in game.

Really the only one I would agree is rather broken is the Stormcrow, and Its not broken because it has a lot of fire power, its broken because its hitboxes are messed up.

Really I think the problem is people just can't or refuse to adapt.
Direwolf, get to the side, shoot off its STs and it loses all its firepower and dies. Also the STs have a lot less armor. ALT: Get behind it and kill it, they often times front load all their armor.
Timberwolf, Shoot its shoulders. those count as STs and will kill it really fast, also strips off half its weapons.
Stormcrow, Shoot its legs, it will die fast, can hit them from any side, they are ******* huges, and it won't be able to move fast once one is gone.



Keep defending your choices, we don't mind, just don't whine when the IS finally has something that can fight your crutches on semi even terms.

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 09:04 PM

View PostR Razor, on 20 December 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:



Keep defending your choices, we don't mind, just don't whine when the IS finally has something that can fight your crutches on semi even terms.



Yea yea, Clans are OP. My quickdraw is garbage. I've heard it before. Get back to me when the Firestarter A is nerfed so that Your crutch lagging, broken hitbox, DPS, cold as ******* ice broken light is gone. How about we also nerf the other lights so the kitfox, adder, and lynx can fight them on equal terms?

#26 FupDup

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 09:05 PM

View PostBrody319, on 20 December 2014 - 09:04 PM, said:

...How about we also nerf the other lights so the kitfox, adder, and lynx can fight them on equal terms?

That would require nerfing even the Locust.... :unsure:

#27 Tristan Winter

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 09:08 PM

As a Clanner who never uses the Timber Wolf, Dire Wolf or Storm Crow, it makes me a sad panda when I have to fight hyper-quirked IS mechs because my teammates are all riding their Dakka Wolves, Timber Wubs and Streak Crows.

But oh well. I didn't buy the Summoner because I thought it would be easy. At least I have my 1% bonus jump jet turning rate, or whatever PGI gave the Summoner. lawl.

#28 R Razor

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 09:08 PM

View PostBrody319, on 20 December 2014 - 09:04 PM, said:



Yea yea, Clans are OP. My quickdraw is garbage. I've heard it before. Get back to me when the Firestarter A is nerfed so that Your crutch lagging, broken hitbox, DPS, cold as ******* ice broken light is gone. How about we also nerf the other lights so the kitfox, adder, and lynx can fight them on equal terms?



Sure, as soon as your crutches weapons weigh as much as ours do, your heat sinks work as poorly as ours do or you are forced to fight using CLAN tactics and numbers.

#29 DarthPeanut

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 09:11 PM

Thunderbolts are great.

#30 Brody319

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 09:11 PM

View PostR Razor, on 20 December 2014 - 09:08 PM, said:



Sure, as soon as your crutches weapons weigh as much as ours do, your heat sinks work as poorly as ours do or you are forced to fight using CLAN tactics and numbers.


K. Lock IS mechs in stock loadouts as per lore, and Clans will gladly fight you one on one.

#31 R Razor

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 09:16 PM

View PostBrody319, on 20 December 2014 - 09:11 PM, said:


K. Lock IS mechs in stock loadouts as per lore, and Clans will gladly fight you one on one.



At least you don't try to hide the fact that you're not good enough to play the game in a balanced manner, that's more than a lot of clan players are capable of admitting. Maybe there's hope for you.

99% of the people playing Clans only play them BECAUSE of their superiority........they can't handle a challenge and prefer to use those crutches to help them stroke themselves..........when they face a challenge (like the Thunderbolt PPC / Wub) they rush to the forum and cry.

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 09:20 PM

View PostR Razor, on 20 December 2014 - 09:16 PM, said:



At least you don't try to hide the fact that you're not good enough to play the game in a balanced manner, that's more than a lot of clan players are capable of admitting. Maybe there's hope for you.

99% of the people playing Clans only play them BECAUSE of their superiority........they can't handle a challenge and prefer to use those crutches to help them stroke themselves..........when they face a challenge (like the Thunderbolt PPC / Wub) they rush to the forum and cry.



Really? Because I've been having lots of fun playing those Underpowered IS mechs and destroyed clan mechs. You know, Grinding up the Stalkers, Centurions, and my Huginn. Never had any problems killing Clan mechs. Can I go 1v1 with them? no, but this is a TEAM game, so going 1v1 with clans is ******* stupid. But I'd rather go 1v1 against a Direwolf rather than a wubshee, Misery, or Wubberbolt.

#33 R Razor

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 09:28 PM

View PostBrody319, on 20 December 2014 - 09:20 PM, said:



Really? Because I've been having lots of fun playing those Underpowered IS mechs and destroyed clan mechs. You know, Grinding up the Stalkers, Centurions, and my Huginn. Never had any problems killing Clan mechs. Can I go 1v1 with them? no, but this is a TEAM game, so going 1v1 with clans is ******* stupid. But I'd rather go 1v1 against a Direwolf rather than a wubshee, Misery, or Wubberbolt.



IS mechs aren't underpowered, but they aren't equal to the Timbercrutch or Stormcrow either........and in a game that is SUPPOSED to be balanced (you know because the clan players in MW:O are not capable of playing at a numerical disadvantage and without focus firing targets down using their superior weaponry............that's a bad thing. Now, finally, the IS has something that can fight against them on close to equal footing, and all you here are cries of anguish.

Nuff said.

#34 Tarzilman

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 09:30 PM

Yeah.
And on the other side there first comes a bunch of nasty Timberderps beside a bunch of Doomcrows and guess what? When you finally shot down the Tderps and the Dcrows they're followed by Dcrows and Tderps.
So let us have a Tbolt that's pain in the arse and perhaps an also terrifying Awesome. That would be awesome!

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 09:41 PM

View PostR Razor, on 20 December 2014 - 09:28 PM, said:



IS mechs aren't underpowered, but they aren't equal to the Timbercrutch or Stormcrow either........and in a game that is SUPPOSED to be balanced (you know because the clan players in MW:O are not capable of playing at a numerical disadvantage and without focus firing targets down using their superior weaponry............that's a bad thing. Now, finally, the IS has something that can fight against them on close to equal footing, and all you here are cries of anguish.

Nuff said.



I wasn't saying nerf it to oblivion, I was saying it needs to be toned down a bit. ERPPCs should have a minimum range anyway, Clan and IS versions. In Lore they run the risk of damaging the mech firing them, or causing the weapon to explode if fired at targets below 90 meters.

If you pilot a timberwolf, you quickly learn how squishy it is. I figured this would be common knowledge after it was released for c-bills and all the bads got a hold of it and died left and right. If anything, I feel safer and stronger in my Misery or Ilya than I do in any of my timberwolves.

View PostTarzilman, on 20 December 2014 - 09:30 PM, said:

Yeah.
And on the other side there first comes a bunch of nasty Timberderps beside a bunch of Doomcrows and guess what? When you finally shot down the Tderps and the Dcrows they're followed by Dcrows and Tderps.
So let us have a Tbolt that's pain in the arse and perhaps an also terrifying Awesome. That would be awesome!


Yes because the way to Balance mechs is to make them all as broken with specific builds as each other. I mean its not like pilot skill has anything to do with how good a mech does. Nope, the mech makes the pilot, not the other way around.

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 09:52 PM

View PostBrody319, on 20 December 2014 - 09:41 PM, said:

If you pilot a timberwolf, you quickly learn how squishy it is. I figured this would be common knowledge after it was released for c-bills and all the bads got a hold of it and died left and right. If anything, I feel safer and stronger in my Misery or Ilya than I do in any of my timberwolves.


LOL WAT?!

#37 Brody319

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 09:56 PM

Clanners are the first ones to talk about nerfs my ass. Nothing but Davion whiners.

#38 R Razor

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 09:57 PM

View PostBrody319, on 20 December 2014 - 09:41 PM, said:



I wasn't saying nerf it to oblivion, I was saying it needs to be toned down a bit. ERPPCs should have a minimum range anyway, Clan and IS versions. In Lore they run the risk of damaging the mech firing them, or causing the weapon to explode if fired at targets below 90 meters.

If you pilot a timberwolf, you quickly learn how squishy it is. I figured this would be common knowledge after it was released for c-bills and all the bads got a hold of it and died left and right. If anything, I feel safer and stronger in my Misery or Ilya than I do in any of my timberwolves.



Yes because the way to Balance mechs is to make them all as broken with specific builds as each other. I mean its not like pilot skill has anything to do with how good a mech does. Nope, the mech makes the pilot, not the other way around.



But this thread, and your posts in this thread, say NOTHING about fixing broken Clan junk............only whining about IS mechs that finally matter.

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 10:00 PM

View PostR Razor, on 20 December 2014 - 09:57 PM, said:



But this thread, and your posts in this thread, say NOTHING about fixing broken Clan junk............only whining about IS mechs that finally matter.


Because the TOPIC is about an IS MECH. If this was about CLAN mechs I would gladly talk about fixing them!

#40 R Razor

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Posted 20 December 2014 - 10:05 PM

Sure thing pal.



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