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#41 Mycrus

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 06:03 PM

View PostMischiefSC, on 21 December 2014 - 12:54 PM, said:

Currently Wazan has 60+ attackers and 51 defenders - and is losing ground.

Marik has lost worlds to Davion almost every round.

Liao hasn't taken one in days. Nor has Marik.

Marik, you go to Wazan then you go there to die. Turtle up and wait for the typhoon to wash over you. There is nothing for you here but an unmarked grave next to rows and rows if similar ones, all with blasted purple turkeys on them.

Not getting any turret matches on Wazan. Just Marik. Admittedly turret stomps are harder but you guys want to throw yourself off the Wazan cliff we're not going to close it off for you.


Protip - wazan is originally fed com space... You've gained nuffin there li'l bub...

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 07:22 PM

View PostMycrus, on 21 December 2014 - 05:58 PM, said:


Where were the Steiner during Asia prime them? All I saw were zeroes... Davion salvage is more fun btw than waiting for drops...


Ooooohhhhhh.... I totally blame gabe newell for that. Cmon, borderlands presequel was on sale for 50%! I was playing that with my RL buddies!

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 10:34 PM

We're back :)

#44 Mycrus

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 10:37 PM

View PostPeter2000, on 21 December 2014 - 10:34 PM, said:

We're back :)


And I'm at work.. GG timezones..

Can we have 228 vs F8L plus pugs for **** and giggles... calling jayz

#45 StillRadioactive

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 01:02 AM

View PostRoadbeer, on 21 December 2014 - 12:12 AM, said:

You say "we" like you ever even fight, all I see is you plastering propaganda everywhere.


And I haven't seen you either. Our good friends in 228 can personally attest to my presence on the Kurita border during their previous contract.

And even with all the time I've spent fighting Mariks lately, I still. Haven't. Seen. You.

View PostMycrus, on 21 December 2014 - 12:31 AM, said:

As if... your worlds are un defended during Asia prime and I'm still having fun farming Davion salvage.


So what you're saying is that you're farming autowins because timezones, while you complain that Davion is just farming autowins (patently false) and taking planets because timezones.

Makes sense if you don't think about it.

#46 Mycrus

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 01:08 AM

View PostStillRadioactive, on 22 December 2014 - 01:02 AM, said:


And I haven't seen you either. Our good friends in 228 can personally attest to my presence on the Kurita border during their previous contract.

And even with all the time I've spent fighting Mariks lately, I still. Haven't. Seen. You.



So what you're saying is that you're farming autowins because timezones, while you complain that Davion is just farming autowins (patently false) and taking planets because timezones.

Makes sense if you don't think about it.


Farming auto wins? I haz better things to do with my time... it roughly takes 1-2 turret stomps to bait the Davions to yield salvage.. if I wanted auto wins I would have farmed the Steiner who can't seem to mount a proper defense..

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 01:16 AM

View PostMycrus, on 21 December 2014 - 06:03 PM, said:

Protip - wazan is originally fed com space... You've gained nuffin there li'l bub...


Fun fact: You took Wazan, Phact and Old Kentucky from us. You also took Marcus, Callison and Loric from the Lyrans.

You've passed Wing back and forth like a basketball with the Lyrans, but they've taken Alhena from you.

Meanwhile, we took back Wazan and Phact, Old Kentucky is up for grabs right now, and we got Suzano, Berenson and Kyrkbacken from you.

Oh yeah, plus this little gem called Asuncion that I understand your largest unit has a particular attachment to.

Davion +3 vs FWL. Fedcom +2 vs FWL.

EDIT: I forgot Zion. Davion +4, Fedcom +3.

Edited by StillRadioactive, 22 December 2014 - 01:21 AM.


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Posted 22 December 2014 - 01:21 AM

View PostRoadbeer, on 21 December 2014 - 11:23 AM, said:

How's your Cappellian border?

You're going to have to see to that soon and stop putting your best and brightest against us. Since it takes 3 days of fighting for you to get one from us, and we seem to be trading Wazan like an old Davion *****... Liao keeps taking territory back from you, your PTB isn't going to let that continue for long w/o shifting focus there.


Thank you for your concern regarding our Capellan border. We did lose Uravan and Ikast while we focused on the heavy fighting over Asuncion, however we have taken Taga, Nashuar, Armaxa, New Sagan, Minnacora, Sarmaxa, St Loris and St Ives as compensation.

Davion +6 vs Liao.

#49 Mycrus

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 02:07 AM

View PostStillRadioactive, on 22 December 2014 - 01:16 AM, said:


Fun fact: You took Wazan, Phact and Old Kentucky from us. You also took Marcus, Callison and Loric from the Lyrans.

You've passed Wing back and forth like a basketball with the Lyrans, but they've taken Alhena from you.

Meanwhile, we took back Wazan and Phact, Old Kentucky is up for grabs right now, and we got Suzano, Berenson and Kyrkbacken from you.

Oh yeah, plus this little gem called Asuncion that I understand your largest unit has a particular attachment to.

Davion +3 vs FWL. Fedcom +2 vs FWL.

EDIT: I forgot Zion. Davion +4, Fedcom +3.


Fun Fact - I've spent less time doing my minimally viable trolls than you trying to keep "score" with your fingers and toes...

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 02:45 AM

Oh Roadbeer I hope you left some bourbon on Old Kentucky. I know a few Davion Commanders who are going to get S*** faced starting Dec 23rd at cease fire. :lol:

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 05:07 AM

View Poststevemac, on 22 December 2014 - 02:45 AM, said:

Oh Roadbeer I hope you left some bourbon on Old Kentucky. I know a few Davion Commanders who are going to get S*** faced starting Dec 23rd at cease fire. :lol:

Yeah, see, what happened there was I decided that this years batch was so fine, I convinced command to requisition the purchase of the entire 3050 and 3051 cask stock, to be transported to an undisclosed location.

You're going to have to settle with sub-par and underaged product, but you Davs are use to that. :P

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 08:12 AM

Just wanted to drop in and send some Kudos out to the Meriks.
This is not a joke or propaganda.

I am just a grunt in Echo Co. Aces Wild (this in my opinion and not my units so please do not say that it is... just in case you take offense to it LOL) but it is nice to get some really good Epic battles on the border of our territories.

TBH ever since the 228th left the border to our north... the wins there have left us unsatisfied. Taking back everything the Liao managed to take from us has been a matter of "when we aren’t fighting the Meriks... send some troops down there." We have more space down there than we started and have recouped all of our planets we lost to them.

The fights however for Asuncion, Wazan, Phact and Old Kentucky have been some of the most difficult that I have faced and winning there has been truly satisfying while losing there still feels satisfying when the battles are so close.

My hat is off the BWC, Seraphim and the other fine groups on our Merik border. These fights just make my Day.
Here's to our future battles against fine opponents.

Edited by Soul Catcher, 22 December 2014 - 08:25 AM.


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Posted 22 December 2014 - 08:48 AM

View PostRoadbeer, on 22 December 2014 - 05:07 AM, said:

Yeah, see, what happened there was I decided that this years batch was so fine, I convinced command to requisition the purchase of the entire 3050 and 3051 cask stock, to be transported to an undisclosed location.

You're going to have to settle with sub-par and underaged product, but you Davs are use to that. :P

It is the good stuff. After the past week I almost settled for the accuatior lube Kurita passes off as booze. So I will take it

Edited by stevemac, 22 December 2014 - 08:53 AM.


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Posted 22 December 2014 - 12:47 PM

View PostSoul Catcher, on 22 December 2014 - 08:12 AM, said:

Just wanted to drop in and send some Kudos out to the Meriks.
This is not a joke or propaganda.

I am just a grunt in Echo Co. Aces Wild (this in my opinion and not my units so please do not say that it is... just in case you take offense to it LOL) but it is nice to get some really good Epic battles on the border of our territories.

TBH ever since the 228th left the border to our north... the wins there have left us unsatisfied. Taking back everything the Liao managed to take from us has been a matter of "when we aren’t fighting the Meriks... send some troops down there." We have more space down there than we started and have recouped all of our planets we lost to them.

The fights however for Asuncion, Wazan, Phact and Old Kentucky have been some of the most difficult that I have faced and winning there has been truly satisfying while losing there still feels satisfying when the battles are so close.

My hat is off the BWC, Seraphim and the other fine groups on our Merik border. These fights just make my Day.
Here's to our future battles against fine opponents.


Much has to be said of the Davions, too. You definitely don't make anything easy.

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 02:20 PM

View PostSoul Catcher, on 22 December 2014 - 08:12 AM, said:

Just wanted to drop in and send some Kudos out to the Meriks.
This is not a joke or propaganda.

I am just a grunt in Echo Co. Aces Wild (this in my opinion and not my units so please do not say that it is... just in case you take offense to it LOL) but it is nice to get some really good Epic battles on the border of our territories.

TBH ever since the 228th left the border to our north... the wins there have left us unsatisfied. Taking back everything the Liao managed to take from us has been a matter of "when we aren’t fighting the Meriks... send some troops down there." We have more space down there than we started and have recouped all of our planets we lost to them.

The fights however for Asuncion, Wazan, Phact and Old Kentucky have been some of the most difficult that I have faced and winning there has been truly satisfying while losing there still feels satisfying when the battles are so close.

My hat is off the BWC, Seraphim and the other fine groups on our Merik border. These fights just make my Day.
Here's to our future battles against fine opponents.


True dat.

Pugged against every clan, held or burned worlds in every front that lets a Sun and Sword into its fighting line. With and against the best they've got to offer. Whatever else I can say, Mariks are a stone cold ***** of a fight any map any mode. I pugged 20 matches on the Dav/Mar line yesterday and literally dropped a couple up on the FRR and Steiner lines to get a breather.. I'll work slow, overheated Clanners and their one trick wolfy vs a seasoned Marik line any day.

The Dav/Mar line is so busy because it's some of the best hardcore play in the game right now.

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 03:12 PM

Expect it to get even harder with upping the zones to 15.

https://twitter.com/...144409720958976
https://twitter.com/...162352903151616

Edited by Roadbeer, 22 December 2014 - 03:13 PM.


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Posted 22 December 2014 - 04:25 PM

View PostRoadbeer, on 22 December 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

Expect it to get even harder with upping the zones to 15.

https://twitter.com/...144409720958976
https://twitter.com/...162352903151616


Helps us, not you. Dav/Steiner have 10 active zones right now. We can easily pull it to 8 and not try to take Clan worlds. Kur/Mar/Liao have 14. Clan pullback still gives you 12. You guys are already spread thin, another front just exploits our advantage. Not a good idea IMO.



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Posted 22 December 2014 - 04:30 PM

View PostMischiefSC, on 22 December 2014 - 04:25 PM, said:

Helps us, not you. Dav/Steiner have 10 active zones right now. We can easily pull it to 8 and not try to take Clan worlds. Kur/Mar/Liao have 14. Clan pullback still gives you 12. You guys are already spread thin, another front just exploits our advantage. Not a good idea IMO.

You misunderstand what's being said. The zones are the number of active drops happening on a planet, has nothing to do with borders, etc.

You're usually better at understanding these things. Getting battle weary?

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 04:53 PM

o7
Good fights on the Marik border. We welcome our mercenary brothers to the battle, no matter which side for which they fight!

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 08:06 PM

View PostRoadbeer, on 22 December 2014 - 04:30 PM, said:

You misunderstand what's being said. The zones are the number of active drops happening on a planet, has nothing to do with borders, etc.

You're usually better at understanding these things. Getting battle weary?


Same thing. We have more people and less fronts, more zones gives us more victories to turn.

This is purely my opinion, but the math is strongly against your current approach. Close some fronts you guys. You haven't taken and won't take a Davion world for the near future. Neither will Liao. Splitting your units to drop attack and defend in both locations is just costing you. There's no ego in that, just a math observation. If Kurita, Marik and Liao focused on defense on the Davion border we could be pretty effectively boxed; for all the jokes about 'turret stomping' and 'ghost drops' most of us won't stay that long in a queue. We might do one, then we'll go to another border.

People look at the numbers. Most of us look at Davion worlds under attack first; if they're quiet we look at Davion offensives. If there's a heavy population on both sides we'll queue up. If not we look to the Clan borders.

If Kurita had help from Marik and Liao stonewalling Smoke Jags that would free up Kurita units to attack Ghost Bears. They have a lot of fronts, foreign and domestic. They are literally the best target of opportunity the Marik/Liao/Kurita has - they expanded quickly and now have a lot of borders and the Wolves now don't have to throw doomed bondsmen at 228.

Davion is in a great place right now but that won't last forever. Units will have fights and mercs will reach a point in Davion loyalty points where they want to move on. Our fortunes will turn sooner or later. The question is how much of Marik/Liao/Kurita will be left when that happens and can be exploited. 228 did NOT become a Steiner House Unit - many of the great Davion merc units are mercs for a reason. Time is on your side but only if you've got enough planets left to matter.

Currently your alliance has 14 active fronts, the Davion/Steiner front has 12. Technically 10; we only bother attacking Capellan worlds when everything else is quiet or the Capellans are really going after ours and Kurita has largely abandoned attacking Davion space in favor of keeping Clanners off their steps. We do have a bit of an overall unit population edge but we've also got about 30% less places we have to cover. You guys need to reduce the number of seats you're trying to fill because currently you are not able to fill them all.





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