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[Brody319]

They keep pinching me when I walk by.

[Roadkill]

Chagatay, on 04 January 2015 - 02:24 PM, said:

people put XL engines in the things just like the XL stalker....(hint: DON'T).

I've never understood people who do that. 100-ton Mechs in general are crit limited, not weight limited. An XL engine exchanges much needed crit space for useless (due to a lack of crits) extra weight, while simultaneously making the Mech more vulnerable. O.o

[627]

Roadkill, on 04 January 2015 - 02:39 PM, said:

I've never understood people who do that. 100-ton Mechs in general are crit limited, not weight limited. An XL engine exchanges much needed crit space for useless (due to a lack of crits) extra weight, while simultaneously making the Mech more vulnerable. O.o

speed, actually. take the 2xgauss/2xPPC build for example, you run into weight limits faster than crits. just try to build that wirh STD and XL.

But yes, XL in the crab is risky. worth it I doubt but I'm still testing.

[MischiefSC]

A gauss/erll/erppc crab needs the 350xl. The speed is far more useful that the survival advantage. You need to control range and position and you can't do that with a 300 std.

If you're I a brawl build bring the std. Sniper, go xl.

[CycKath]

Love my King Crab, can't wait til later in the month to finally master it.

[Madcap72]

It's FUN to play. With the fast torso twist, and low mounted arms that are head level with lights, it's hilarious when they try to grief then get caught with a snap shot in the cockpit.

Speed? Don't need to be fast if you communicate well with the team (yea right) and have solid plans.


I just use the stock engine, it ensures I show up at just the right time

[Joseph Mallan]

I haven't found my rhythm in it yet.

[LameoveR]

I've seen a lot of crabs that died as noobs in a first minutes of a match. And only one crab who could do over 5 kills.

[MeiSooHaityu]

This is just my opinion...

I think the people who run XL engines in assault mechs, are people who don't realize assault mechs are not for them. They would be far better off in Heavies than Assaults, but they just haven't come to terms with that yet.

I hate Assault mechs and when I play them for whatever reason, I fight the urge to throw in an XL. I want to sooo bad because they are so painfully slow.

That's how I know I am not an Assault pilot. I just don't have the methodical patience and press planning necessary to pilot a land slug.

So, if you must XL an Assault, might be time to look at heavy mechs.

P.S. Victor excluded, but it has more in common with Heavies than Assaults anyway.

[Joseph Mallan]

MeiSooHaityu, on 05 January 2015 - 09:41 AM, said:

This is just my opinion...

I think the people who run XL engines in assault mechs, are people who don't realize assault mechs are not for them. They would be far better off in Heavies than Assaults, but they just haven't come to terms with that yet.

I hate Assault mechs and when I play them for whatever reason, I fight the urge to throw in an XL. I want to sooo bad because they are so painfully slow.

That's how I know I am not an Assault pilot. I just don't have the methodical patience and press planning necessary to pilot a land slug.

So, if you must XL an Assault, might be time to look at heavy mechs.

P.S. Victor excluded, but it has more in common with Heavies than Assaults anyway.

There are many XL Assaults coming down the timeline MieSoo... Just saying.

[Vassago Rain]

King crabs must pick between poor cooling, or little ammo.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Joseph Mallan, on 05 January 2015 - 09:43 AM, said:

There are many XL Assaults coming down the timeline MieSoo... Just saying.

Sure, but still not sure it is wise to run unless they have Victor-like properties.

Also If the timeline includes IS XLs like that of the Clan's XL engines, I could see changing my point of view (Light Fusion Engine??).

With the mechs and engines the IS has now, I don't think I'm ready to change my opinion.

[AlmightyAeng]

MischiefSC, on 04 January 2015 - 04:35 PM, said:

A gauss/erll/erppc crab needs the 350xl. The speed is far more useful that the survival advantage. You need to control range and position and you can't do that with a 300 std.

If you're I a brawl build bring the std. Sniper, go xl.

That's an interesting perspective...I've found that a STD 300 allows me to position effectively enough, and that the XL generally isn't worth the death-by-side-torso, but to each their own!

[MeiSooHaityu]

Well as for the King Crab itself, I love to look at it in the Mechbay! It looks so cool.

As for piloting it...well, might as well eject right after the match starts, it would save me the pain of actually trying to be effective with it.

[El Bandito]

Roadkill, on 04 January 2015 - 02:39 PM, said:

I've never understood people who do that. 100-ton Mechs in general are crit limited, not weight limited. An XL engine exchanges much needed crit space for useless (due to a lack of crits) extra weight, while simultaneously making the Mech more vulnerable. O.o

If your Assault is geared for long range combat you can give it XL without much issues. In fact, my 350XL, Lurm Atlas-S is my biggest money earner. Can't wait til I get my hands on the KGC-0000.

Edited by El Bandito, 05 January 2015 - 10:13 AM.

[Mudhutwarrior]

Been experimenting with loadouts with mine and love it. I get whooped sometimes but mostly its from learning how to drive it effectively and being a moron with it. When its good its great and I got 6 kills over a 1000 dam with it more than once in solo. Its very versatile so I can play with tweaking a good long time. I usually will test a build 20 to 25 matches because solo varies so much.
The 4 ac5 build with both modules and 2 ERLL has done best, with the top mounted lasers I can reach over cover and frustrate people trying to return fire. Still have yet to do a missile boat or dual Gauss. Its not as face melting as the dire but way more maneuverable.

[Wrathful Scythe]

You can make the XL work. 4 AC/5 + 2 PPC

Its pretty darn fast for that firepower. Just don't try to take the dmg or push through.

Funny thing: Nobody expects a XL on the crab so no one actually shoots your ST's when they see you up front. Don't get flanked and you will be mostly fine. Just watch for LRMs because those will thrash you.

The Crab, like the Direwolf, feels extremely squishy. Even with the STD engine. My Banshee feels like it can take a whole more damage than my Dire or my Crab. Maybe I just getting focused more.

[AlmightyAeng]

CW matches on defense...it often racks up a good 1300 damage before I switch mechs. I kind of adore it. Plus when you're bored, pinching at neighboring mechs always gets a laugh

[El Bandito]

Wrathful Scythe, on 05 January 2015 - 10:22 AM, said:

The Crab, like the Direwolf, feels extremely squishy. Even with the STD engine. My Banshee feels like it can take a whole more damage than my Dire or my Crab. Maybe I just getting focused more.

Yep. If I see a KGC and a Banshee together, you bet your last cent that I will shoot at the Crab first.

Edited by El Bandito, 05 January 2015 - 10:31 AM.

[Kraven Kor]

627, on 04 January 2015 - 01:43 PM, said:

As you wish


You could still take half a ton armor of the legs down to 68 points (or even a full ton down to 60 but that gets dangerous) and fill the last empty crit slot but I have no Idea with what.

Hey, everybody! Shoot that guy's right torso!