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[Scout Derek]

Got some computer parts here, want you to tell me how good it'll run MWO, no upgrade suggestions needed. Thanks! ~ Scout Derek
Specs:
Case, CD-ROM Drive and Operating System: iBUYPOWER Thermal Take Chaser A21 + 24x DVD-RW Drive + Windows 8.1 Bundle
Motherboard and Processor: iBUYPOWER AMD FX-4300 Quad-Core Processor
Graphics Card and Power Supply: iBUYPOWER NVIDIA GeForce GT740 2GB Graphics Card + 400W Power Supply
RAM Memory and Hard Drive: iBUYPOWER 4GB DDR3 Memory + 1TB Hard Drive
TOTAL VALUE: $526

Edited by Scout Derek, 04 January 2015 - 07:07 PM.

[Smokeyjedi]

720P min detail settings across board, and 20-50FPS not sure about 1080P......probably could barely do it.(maybe)

[xWiredx]

That FX-4300 is going to be a real challenge to work with, and the GT 740 is a pretty weak GPU. You're looking at mixed low+medium settings for sure. I mean, the game isn't overly ugly even at those settings I guess, but it isn't going to be pretty, either. If you overclock on the steep end wherever possible, you may be able to get away with more medium than low settings, but you'll definitely have some really wicked dips in FPS when you get into heavier action.

My suggestion: save your pennies and start taking upgrade suggestions in the future.

[Gremlich Johns]

I would ditch the 4300 and go for at least the FX-6350 - the 8350 if you don't want to buy another computer until late next year. I built two systems for friends based on that 6350 and they can play Star Citizen (more horsepower needed for that game than MW:O needs) on medium to high quite easily. MW:O is usually on very high/40-60FPS even running a GTX560.

Make sure the mobo is AM3+ !!!!

You'll want to build for the long term and going cheap is not the way to do it. pcpartpicker is a good place to start.

this is a little dated, but it's $571 (under $750 if you look at the extras) You can repurpose HHD/SSD if you're lucky.

I actually ran this build for MW:O and got minimum 30FPS during closed beta


AMD Phenom X4 955 @ 3.2 GHz - $92 <-- update this to an FX-6350 for only $36 more
ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 AM3+ mobo - $60 ( <-- this can accommodate the FX-series of CPUs if you desire to upgrade, I'd get the M5A97 instead for $79, though)
GTX 460 1GB -- $76 but upgrade to a GTX 7602GB at $210
RAM - $60 for 8GB Ripjaws X 1600
Case - $30 (or repurpose or find a microcenter and check for sales)
550W pwr sply - $60
250 GB HDD - $43
Windows 7 Home - $100 or less
KB+M - $50
total cost $571 (CD/DVD ROMs are available as giveaways these days)

[Lord Letto]

for $526, this is what i'd go with:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.98 @ OutletPC) </div>
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H81 Pro BTC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $526.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-05 00:28 EST-0500
no HDD, you could reuse a Old one

if you intend on getting a prebuilt like the one you have listed:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16883220603
Refurbished ASUS M51AC-US006S
i5-4570 (3.2GHz Quad Core, 3.6GHz Max Turbo)
H87 Chipset
8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD
Windows 8
Nvidia GTX 650 1GB
300W PSU
Cost: $600, was $700

Edited by Lord Letto, 04 January 2015 - 09:47 PM.

[Flapdrol]

Why do you keep getting those pos prebuilts scout derek?

[Vassago Rain]

Uber weak GT 740.
Poor AMD processor.

Not gonna go well at all.

[Scout Derek]

Flapdrol, on 05 January 2015 - 03:37 AM, said:

Why do you keep getting those pos prebuilts scout derek?

A cousin of mine wants a gaming computer, but he doesn't want to take the time to go buy the parts individually... sorry about that :/

[Summon3r]

zero chance at 1080p, and even 720 wont be fun.

[Scout Derek]

How will this GPU perform? :iBuypower Radeon R7-260X 2GB Graphics Card
It's $30+ more than the Nvidia GT 740 but I think it'll help the system out. Also this will help too a bit: iBuypower AMD FX-6300 6-Core Processor It's $23 more, but will definitely help in FPS rate, as well as upping the memory to this : iBuypower 4GB DDR3 Memory + 1TB Hard Drive, which is $3+ more than the original memory, raising the total price to $610 (the extra $25 came from a care plan). Opinions on it? I mean, I'm not going to say anything against you, give it to me bluntly like you've guys been doing
EDIT: iBuypower Intel i3-4150 Haswell Dual-Core Processor instead of the AMD FX-6300 6-Core Processor, $6 more, now total price is $616

Edited by Scout Derek, 05 January 2015 - 09:10 AM.

[Smokeyjedi]

Scout Derek, on 05 January 2015 - 09:03 AM, said:

How will this GPU perform? :iBuypower Radeon R7-260X 2GB Graphics Card
It's $30+ more than the Nvidia GT 740 but I think it'll help the system out. Also this will help too a bit: iBuypower AMD FX-6300 6-Core Processor It's $23 more, but will definitely help in FPS rate, as well as upping the memory to this : iBuypower 4GB DDR3 Memory + 1TB Hard Drive, which is $3+ more than the original memory, raising the total price to $610 (the extra $25 came from a care plan). Opinions on it? I mean, I'm not going to say anything against you, give it to me bluntly like you've guys been doing

That is a far more capable gaming system......You will need to OC ANY FX processor to get solid stable framerates in MWO, but all other games using mantle and optimized DX11 will not have near the problems as MWO. A custom user.cfg file with med settings would be alright for sure.........MWO would hum than. The Fx overclocks so easily really the only thing you would have to worry about since your not pushing it to entusiast levels would be heat, a 30$ air cooler from coolermaster would have you sitting @ 4.0ghz without a voltage bump........id put money on it.........I'll talk you through it if and when you pull the trigger.

[Scout Derek]

Smokeyjedi, on 05 January 2015 - 09:14 AM, said:

That is a far more capable gaming system......You will need to OC ANY FX processor to get solid stable framerates in MWO, but all other games using mantle and optimized DX11 will not have near the problems as MWO. A custom user.cfg file with med settings would be alright for sure.........MWO would hum than. The Fx overclocks so easily really the only thing you would have to worry about since your not pushing it to entusiast levels would be heat, a 30$ air cooler from coolermaster would have you sitting @ 4.0ghz without a voltage bump........id put money on it.........I'll talk you through it if and when you pull the trigger.

Thanks, will do ask when I do,I've also changed the Core to a i3 instead of the AMD 6-Core Processor, so that should help some more.

Edited by Scout Derek, 05 January 2015 - 09:27 AM.

[Smokeyjedi]

I hope that ram increase would be another stick for dual channel mode? 2X2gb? or 1X 4gb??<---this would choke memory bandwidth on FX cpu and make it slow as molasses..... you may even want to keep you eyes out for some crazy sale on 8gb kits..........I got Gkill blue DDR3 for 60$ for 8gb kit.something to keep in mind.

I know I5s are liked by MWO. but not sure about I3s......

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 05 January 2015 - 09:22 AM.

[Scout Derek]

Smokeyjedi, on 05 January 2015 - 09:21 AM, said:

I hope that ram increase would be another stick for dual channel mode? 2X2gb? or 1X 4gb??<---this would choke memory bandwidth on FX cpu and make it slow as molasses..... you may even want to keep you eyes out for some crazy sale on 8gb kits..........I got Gkill blue DDR3 for 60$ for 8gb kit.something to keep in mind.

I know I5s are liked by MWO. but not sure about I3s......

Hmm... you're right, just thought about that, what if I upgraded the memory yet again to this: IBuypower 8GB DDR3 + 500GB Hard Drive. It's a hefty $24 more, but it'll get it where It needs to be if It needs more memory, bringing the value now to $640. Keep in mind that I put a care plan on it to help out if anything goes wrong. If I don't have a care plan the price would be $615.

Edited by Scout Derek, 05 January 2015 - 09:26 AM.

[Smokeyjedi]

Well go with the 6300 8gbddr3 and the 260 radeon? that would be a all around capable gaming machine, The I3 makes me shake my head, dont think you can match OCd 6300 with a I3, pretty sure It cannot be done.

[Flapdrol]

For a gaming rig a haswell i3 will probably perform better than the FX6300, especially in this game.

post 10 and below in this topic are a bunch of tests (i3 beating overclocked cpu's often)
http://forums.anandt...d.php?t=2413015

what's the upgrade price to 2x 4GB ram?

Edited by Flapdrol, 05 January 2015 - 09:42 AM.

[Scout Derek]

Flapdrol, it is a 2x 4 GB ram, dunno the price of it though...

[Flapdrol]

In that case it's fine.

[Catamount]

The Haswell i3 vs FX6300 is a tough call. The 6300 is probably far and away the better chip, but MWO still doesn't like FX chips. OTOH, an i3 is so gimp that I would bet it'll like that even less. Devs said some time ago that MWO likes having access to a certain number of FPUs, well the 6300 has half again as many even if they are slower, and it's going to have a lot more overall resources for the game to assign threads to.

In all, I'd probably pick the AMD chip if there's no upgrading down the road. If there is upgrading down the road, take the i3 for the socket. Just my .02

I would still highly recommend building in any case. Taking a few extra minutes to buy parts and two extra hours to throw it together is going to mean better performance for, like, the next 2-4 years. Given that it could mean the difference between MWO running nice and smoothly or MWO running like molasses uphill, I would think taking 2 hours out of gaming time would be a worthy investment to have some subsequent thousands of hours of gaming be much better. Again, just my .02; I won't mention it again. Though I will say: if he doesn't want to build it, why not get someone else to? Surely you guys know someone...

[Lord Letto]

http://www.ibuypower...tore/ASUS-M32AD
1x4GB to 2x4GB Costs $61, +$24 if you want G.Skill Ripsaws X or Corsair Vengeance instead of "Major Brand", I'd go with the Ripsaws X
I'd do that, Go down from the i3 and get the G3258 ($43 Discount) and +$46 to get Liquid Cooling, not sure what max budget is but if possible I'd choose the R9 270X instead of the R7 240 (+$169), it's pretty good (7870, R9 270 & R9 270X is on par with the GTX 660TI & GTX 760) plus you can get a Free Game with it.
to be safe and add support for future upgrades, I'd upgrade the PSU from the "Standard" 300W to the Corsair CX750 80+ Bronze for a extra $68
$7 Discount for going with the 2TB HDD instead of the 1TB
+$19 for advanced packing and +$10 for the Tuniq TX-2 Thermal Compound

total comes to $876 with Standard 3 Year Labor, 1 Year Parts Warranty, +$199 to extend Warranty by 1 Year each for Parts and Labor (4 Year Labor, 2 Years Parts), +$349 for Extra 2 Years each to Standard (5 Years Labor, 3 Years Parts) + Whatever Shipping would Cost.

in comparison, if you were to spend that for a BIY Rig:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($317.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($7.40 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Azza SIRIUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $879.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-05 13:53 EST-0500

Edited by Lord Letto, 05 January 2015 - 10:53 AM.