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[Roland]

Heffay, on 05 January 2015 - 01:26 PM, said:

Hey, it's why we have a Mechwarrior game today. Even people who are terminally unhappy enjoy the game enough to play it practically every day and buy the second most expensive Clan package despite complaining endlessly on multiple forums about the game....

Who are those people? Me? Certainly not any more.
Like I said, I basically stopped playing when it became apparent that folks weren't gonna come back and play with me. We just moved onto other games.

Heffay, on 05 January 2015 - 01:26 PM, said:

The 3 things PGI has got spot on perfect with MWO (in no particular order): Gameplay, graphics, and monetization.

I don't understand this joke. I mean, if Vassago said it, I'd understand, but you're usually white knighting for PGI, so I don't understand why you're making fun of them.

[Heffay]

Roland, on 05 January 2015 - 01:55 PM, said:

I don't understand this joke. I mean, if Vassago said it, I'd understand, but you're usually white knighting for PGI, so I don't understand why you're making fun of them.

I said it because it's accurate. Gameplay trumps all. The graphics have been unquestionably the best we've ever had in a Mechwarrior title. And the monetization...well, the continued existence of PGI much to your chagrin pretty much speaks to their ability to do that right.

Spot on perfect.

[Roland]

Wow

[Illya Ghost Bear]

Roland, on 05 January 2015 - 01:55 PM, said:

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Who are those people? Me? Certainly not any more.
Like I said, I basically stopped playing when it became apparent that folks weren't gonna come back and play with me. We just moved onto other games.


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I don't understand this joke. I mean, if Vassago said it, I'd understand, but you're usually white knighting for PGI, so I don't understand why you're making fun of them.

your definition of "moving on" and most peoples, apparently differ greatly.

Your posts are more like those of an angry ex-GF who's idea of moving on is stalking her ex and trying to sabotage everything he does.

[Heffay]

Illya Arkhipova, on 05 January 2015 - 02:02 PM, said:

your definition of "moving on" and most peoples, apparently differ greatly.

Your posts are more like those of an angry ex-GF who's idea of moving on is stalking her ex and trying to sabotage everything he does.

[Fate 6]

Yeah, we seriously need to make it easier to get mechs. As it is right now it's hard for me to recommend the game to friends because I know after the initial 25mil new player bonus they will be very very slowly grinding their way up. 25mil is 1-3 clan mechs or 2-5 IS mechs. But of course we only have 4 starting mech bays, so for a new player you pretty much either commit fully to 1 chassis or accept the fact that you won't master a mech for probably a month if not more.

While a month of play may be ok for some games to get minimal viable competitive content, for this game it's pretty tedious due to the nature of the short matches. If CW was playable at all for new players it might be better because even though the grind takes a while you don't have to play as many separate matches and the matches are more exciting (ignoring the fact that there are only 2 CW maps).

Make mechs a bit cheaper, and give us a couple more starting mech bays (enough to have 2 mastered sets of mechs), and I could actually start honestly telling my friends they should play the game. Right now the only people I know who play it are people who liked it because it was MW, not because they tried a new game and liked it.

[Escef]

Roland, on 05 January 2015 - 01:55 PM, said:

Like I said, I basically stopped playing when it became apparent that folks weren't gonna come back and play with me.

Key words: play with you. Why would anyone actually want to play with you? Did it ever occur to you that the problem is you? That you drive people away? Just a thought.

[CDLord HHGD]

Escef, on 05 January 2015 - 02:29 PM, said:

Key words: play with you. Why would anyone actually want to play with you? Did it ever occur to you that the problem is you? That you drive people away? Just a thought.

I see a lot of Rolands online too, I just assumed they were alts..... I guess not. But if he doesn't play, then he has no experience with the current game to have a valid opinion.....

[hybrid black]

Krysic, on 05 January 2015 - 01:29 AM, said:

Ok guys, we're no longer limited to 4-10 mechs. It's time to swing the nerf bat at the prices of modules and engines.

Seriously, enough timesinks. It's an action sim. People won't stop playing if they run out of stuff to buy. They'll just try new combinations and play styles.

.....or, you could give us saved loadouts, like every other game with customization options has been doing forever.

no

[Nori Silverrage]

Fate 6, on 05 January 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

Yeah, we seriously need to make it easier to get mechs. As it is right now it's hard for me to recommend the game to friends because I know after the initial 25mil new player bonus they will be very very slowly grinding their way up. 25mil is 1-3 clan mechs or 2-5 IS mechs. But of course we only have 4 starting mech bays, so for a new player you pretty much either commit fully to 1 chassis or accept the fact that you won't master a mech for probably a month if not more.

While a month of play may be ok for some games to get minimal viable competitive content, for this game it's pretty tedious due to the nature of the short matches. If CW was playable at all for new players it might be better because even though the grind takes a while you don't have to play as many separate matches and the matches are more exciting (ignoring the fact that there are only 2 CW maps).

Make mechs a bit cheaper, and give us a couple more starting mech bays (enough to have 2 mastered sets of mechs), and I could actually start honestly telling my friends they should play the game. Right now the only people I know who play it are people who liked it because it was MW, not because they tried a new game and liked it.

This... I'm on my second stint with the game and I have spent a bit of money on the game, but I'm still quite far from having a good range of mechs despite at least 100 hours playing the game.

The biggest killers are the things that really shouldn't cost a lot, like the 6million modules, that you want on every mech, the 1.5million DHS (which everyone wants/should have to compete). I have to buy DHS on almost every mech and if you don't have to buy it then that mechs costs that much more anyway. Oh and lets mention the engines too. God forbid you want to buy a second XL300 so that you can fit two mechs and not be constantly moving the engine...

I do like the reward of doing well in a match and getting a nice bunch of cbills, but even with a hero mech and premium it'll still be a long time to elite a mech.

Heck the only reason i have two varients at elite is because I bought some mechs (hero and champion ones) with MC...

Edited by Nori Silverrage, 05 January 2015 - 02:41 PM.

[Escef]

Nori Silverrage, on 05 January 2015 - 02:39 PM, said:

God forbid you want to buy a second XL300 so that you can fit two mechs and not be constantly moving the engine...

I have at least eleven 300XL engines and three 400XLs. Of those, the only one I didn't pay for with c-bills was the 300XL that came with my Sarah's Jenner. I'm not exactly sympathetic here.

Just play the game, the c-bills will come. If you're that worried about c-bill earnings, grab some premium time, the 50% boost on c-bills and XP is nice.

[Roland]

Escef, on 05 January 2015 - 02:29 PM, said:

Key words: play with you. Why would anyone actually want to play with you? Did it ever occur to you that the problem is you? That you drive people away? Just a thought.

Lol, well done sir.

To answer the question though, we still play OTHER games together. They just stopped wanting to play THIS game.

I keep checking on the forums here, partially out of schadenfreude, and partially out of some mindless hope that things could get better.

[Heffay]

It's like a watched pot. The second you stop coming here, things will get a lot better.

[Roland]

I think you are right.

[Escef]

Heffay, on 05 January 2015 - 03:00 PM, said:

It's like a watched pot. The second you stop coming here, things will get a lot better.

Eh, just block him. Let him have fun cursing at an empty room.

[Illya Ghost Bear]

Heffay, on 05 January 2015 - 03:00 PM, said:

It's like a watched pot. The second you stop coming here, things will get a lot better.

I see what you did there.....

[Deathlike]

Fate 6, on 05 January 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

Yeah, we seriously need to make it easier to get mechs. As it is right now it's hard for me to recommend the game to friends because I know after the initial 25mil new player bonus they will be very very slowly grinding their way up. 25mil is 1-3 clan mechs or 2-5 IS mechs. But of course we only have 4 starting mech bays, so for a new player you pretty much either commit fully to 1 chassis or accept the fact that you won't master a mech for probably a month if not more.

While a month of play may be ok for some games to get minimal viable competitive content, for this game it's pretty tedious due to the nature of the short matches. If CW was playable at all for new players it might be better because even though the grind takes a while you don't have to play as many separate matches and the matches are more exciting (ignoring the fact that there are only 2 CW maps).

Make mechs a bit cheaper, and give us a couple more starting mech bays (enough to have 2 mastered sets of mechs), and I could actually start honestly telling my friends they should play the game. Right now the only people I know who play it are people who liked it because it was MW, not because they tried a new game and liked it.

It's not 25m, it's only 8 million.

The Premium Time stacking with the first 25 games bonus is long gone since achievements.

Edited by Deathlike, 05 January 2015 - 03:19 PM.

[Serpieri]

Still haven't bought a single thing in MWO - the pricing needs to go down - these are virtual items.

[Kyrie]

Steam will have Steam deals. When MWO goes live on Steam I expect a pricing revision.

[Roadkill]

Heffay, on 05 January 2015 - 01:22 PM, said:

PGI has ALWAYS done monetization extremely well.

Do you live in WA or CO? It has to be one of those.