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[operatorZ]

hybrid black, on 07 January 2015 - 01:10 PM, said:

Good thing i don't really care what low people think, all that matters is in game results

Friends in low places?.....no......ok

[hybrid black]

operatorZ, on 07 January 2015 - 01:23 PM, said:

Friends in low places?.....no......ok

thats only for drinking friends, they have the best girls and best rum

[Harathan]

hybrid black, on 07 January 2015 - 01:10 PM, said:

Good thing i don't really care what low people think, all that matters is in game results

Ah, personal insults, the last resort of those who know they've already lost the argument.

You're not even attempting to explain why you think the all-right-side ERPPC set up is ineffective or bad, you're just stating that it is so, and resorting to name calling.

We're not in the school playground anymore and arguing at that level does not carry weight here.

[Shabahh Kerensky]

I'm surprised these threads haven't been locked from all this petty insulting over a video game.

[hybrid black]

Harathan, on 07 January 2015 - 01:30 PM, said:

Ah, personal insults, the last resort of those who know they've already lost the argument.

You're not even attempting to explain why you think the all-right-side ERPPC set up is ineffective or bad, you're just stating that it is so, and resorting to name calling.

We're not in the school playground anymore and arguing at that level does not carry weight here.

low mounts i already said that

[Podex]

Roadbeer, on 06 January 2015 - 09:15 PM, said:

That drop deck is virtually unseen in IS vs IS combat, and the Clans are supposed to be OP.

If I ever saw one in CW, I'd lol. I fear a AC20 hunchback more than I do a 3x ERPPC Thunderbolt.

[Desicator]

MischiefSC, on 07 January 2015 - 12:00 PM, said:

The top tier comp teams run them because they can. They could roll you the same with erlls, or a bag of potatoes.

You had me laughing for a good 5min with this comment. Thank you. Where can I pick up my bag of potatoes?

[operatorZ]

Desicator, on 07 January 2015 - 01:51 PM, said:

You had me laughing for a good 5min with this comment. Thank you. Where can I pick up my bag of potatoes?

They are right next to the Gargoyle....

[MischiefSC]

Desicator, on 07 January 2015 - 01:51 PM, said:

You had me laughing for a good 5min with this comment. Thank you. Where can I pick up my bag of potatoes?

Mech bay. They are in a bin labeled "AC/2 Ammo".

Please do us all a favor, make a ac2 dropdeck and post a video of wrecking clan face with it.

Impossible of course, because all Clanners are inherently better pilots and the only reason they lose regularly is broken IS super mech. Totally not because they had a significant mech advantage, so much so that they never had to pick up the actual tactical skills everyone else did week 1. It's because they were just better SKILLZ.

Just ask them, they will tell you.

[Martis Gradivus]

Harathan, on 07 January 2015 - 12:57 PM, said:

Anyone who wants LA + LT shields vs LA + RA shields. Anyone who wants to brawl effectively.




Nope. Page after page mocking clanners for whining about suddenly having to fight on a level playing field. Nobody complaining about a quirk reduction. I don't think there's many people who would not agree that the 50% is a bit too much. We just think it's hilarious for clanners to finally be crying that something IS is OP.

And that's where you're wrong.....a lot of us clanners have been saying that certain chassis for the clans are OP and have asked for them to be toned down. I wouldn't mind seeing a change to the Stormcrow or Timberwolf, only how to nerf or reduce the chassis effectivness without nerfing the weapons for all the other normal clan mechs? Notice I don't include the Dire Wolf since it is not overly prevalent in CW and is countered with the King Crab for sheer firepower.

[MischiefSC]

The goofy thing is that it isn't the heat - it's the speed boost. That translates to accuracy, which is compounded by organized focus fire. It it gets a Nerf it's the projectile speed that needs it - not the heat buff.

[Gallowglas]

operatorZ, on 07 January 2015 - 12:55 PM, said:

I mean look at yourselves .... page after page of this complaining about a little reduction in quirks...guess we know what you are all playing huh?

I'll confess that I have one in my drop deck. I use it consistently for my first drop. I have yet to encounter a single match where its KDR or damage output has come close to that of my Stalkers. This is largely because it's not a brawler and most matches devolve into brawling at some point or another. Simply put: it's a tool in my toolkit, but I wouldn't say it's the most important one.

[Mystere]

MischiefSC, on 07 January 2015 - 02:22 PM, said:

The goofy thing is that it isn't the heat - it's the speed boost. That translates to accuracy, which is compounded by organized focus fire. It it gets a Nerf it's the projectile speed that needs it - not the heat buff.

I disagree. My ERPPC aim is good enough (i.e. had a lot of practice during CB when they were as slow as molasses). What I need is to be able to fire more ... a lot more.

[Gorgo7]

Love the THUD in all it's iterations. Currently the 9S is going back up on the shelf in favour of the (sharp intake of breath) 5S.
The 9SE remains in my deck as well. Both seem more useful at countering the Zerg.
For the Clanners who are upset by the well designed and excellent THUD chassis consider running some IS mechs on the attack vs. the Clan. I think it would be an eye opening experience.
Besides, the Dragon with the AC-5 quirk is tougher in a mob.

[Podex]

I don't have one. Never have I been in a situation where I though, "Hey, a 3 ERPPC Tunderbolt would be a good idea." LRMs? Yes. Dual Gauss? Yes. A Locust? Yes. A sack of potatoes? Probably.

All it would be good for is tanking hits, but that's about it.

[Navid A1]

MischiefSC, on 07 January 2015 - 02:22 PM, said:

The goofy thing is that it isn't the heat - it's the speed boost. That translates to accuracy, which is compounded by organized focus fire. It it gets a Nerf it's the projectile speed that needs it - not the heat buff.

Translation: I TOTALLY know that its the heat reduction that has made this a super weapon on the 9S. But i just say its not... maybe someone at PGI notices.

Awesome 9M has 25% total ERPPC heat reduction, 25% more range and 10% more velocity (with a total of 25%).
According to you... it must be the sleeping giant that nobody knows about yet....!

*runs to buy some awesome 9Ms

Edited by Navid A1, 07 January 2015 - 02:39 PM.

[Yokaiko]

Navid A1, on 07 January 2015 - 02:38 PM, said:

Translation: I TOTALLY know that its the heat reduction that has made this a super weapon on the 9S. But i just say its not... maybe someone at PGI notices.

Awesome 9M has 25% total ERPPC heat reduction, 25% more range and 10% more velocity (with a total of 25%).
According to you... it must be the sleeping giant that nobody knows about yet....!

*runs to buy some awesome 9Ms

I'm not the only one that runs them in my dropdeck, no.

[beerandasmoke]

Navid A1, on 07 January 2015 - 02:38 PM, said:

Translation: I TOTALLY know that its the heat reduction that has made this a super weapon on the 9S. But i just say its not... maybe someone at PGI notices.

Awesome 9M has 25% total ERPPC heat reduction, 25% more range and 10% more velocity (with a total of 25%).
According to you... it must be the sleeping giant that nobody knows about yet....!

*runs to buy some awesome 9Ms

Actually hes right. Its the speed boost not the heat that have made it the favored weapon of IS pilots on Boreal. It wouldnt matter if it did run cold as hell, without the speed boost it would be useless trying to snipe at 1100 meters.

[Navid A1]

Navid A1, on 06 January 2015 - 09:28 PM, said:

I think that the awesome was a more suitable choice for the buffs given to the 9S.

Take a 9M for example and compare it to 9S at 810m range (i know the 9M has a range advantage). A TDR can launch a PPC bolt at 1207 m/s while an awesome can do the same at 1312 m/s. The time difference between when their shots reach the target is 0.054 seconds.
Now imagine a locust running perpendicular to the shooter at that range with a speed of 170 km/h. Lead distance difference would be 2.5 meters which is only 0.177 degrees torso angle difference on that distance (the amount of pixels it requires depends on individual FOV settings).

But heat is something on another category. it's not velocity or range quirks that really affects the core of what is an ERPPC... its the heat. The heat is the trade off for that weapon... if you take the heat away, then there is no balancing trade off.
50% vs 25% heat reduction on TDR is a huge advantage over the 9M.

I think it should have been the other way around regarding these two mechs.

[Beo Vulf]

Vassago Rain, on 06 January 2015 - 09:20 PM, said:

Except you totally do. Even your 1 ton medium lasers have 810 meters range.

I never knew the clan babby scrubs were this bad.

lol 810 meter range that's almost correct, the clan large pulse laser has a 760 meter range. The CERML range is shorter.