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[Deathlike]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 01:54 PM, said:

you and I both know it.

It will just continue to push forward laser vomitry. oh joy.

Well, I like Clan DHS.

I can't stop buying more unfortunately.

Edited by Deathlike, 12 February 2015 - 01:58 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Deathlike, on 12 February 2015 - 01:58 PM, said:

Well, I like Clan DHS.

I can't stop buying more unfortunately.

is there a 12 step program for that?

[Golden Vulf]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 09:38 PM, said:

is there a 12 step program for that?

Yeah, but the last step is just buying a whole lot all at once so you don't notice the problem for a while.

[Deathlike]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 09:38 PM, said:

is there a 12 step program for that?

Unfortunately no.

Fortunately DHS is cheap like sugar and I must have moar.

[Anakha]

Another patch and still nothing to address the lack of endo upgrade ability for certain clan mechs. I hope Russ addresses this in his round table tomorrow.

[Bishop Steiner]

screw clan quirks, atm. Give endo, then see what still needs quirking, AFTER.

[Lily from animove]

Anakha, on 18 February 2015 - 05:30 PM, said:

Another patch and still nothing to address the lack of endo upgrade ability for certain clan mechs. I hope Russ addresses this in his round table tomorrow.

as if endo really would fix bad hardpoints in distribution or location.

Edited by Lily from animove, 26 February 2015 - 11:03 AM.

[Kain Demos]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 February 2015 - 11:00 AM, said:

screw clan quirks, atm. Give endo, then see what still needs quirking, AFTER.

I fully believe that quirks for clan 'mechs can be skipped if they are willing to change other things instead like allowing ES upgrades, limited unlocking of engines, and additional omnipods that are out-of-timeline or even invented from thin air if need be.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

I think limited quirks and unlocking Endo/Ferro, unlocking JJs, and unlocking DHS (at least DHS location) would go a long ways to balancing the underperforming clans.

Also fixing their terribad ballistics would help too.

[Bishop Steiner]

Lily from animove, on 26 February 2015 - 11:03 AM, said:

as if endo really would fix bad hardpoints in distribution or location.

can't hurt, and several mechs like the Summoner and Gargoyle actually would benefit greatly, as would the Mad Dog, Hellbringer, and to a lesser extent, the Nova. Only mechs that really need massive help that it doesn't do something for are the Ice Ferret and the Mist Lynx....and both of them already have endo. And really even the Ice Ferret isn't bad on hardpoints...just the tonnage to use them.

Lord Scarlett Johan, on 26 February 2015 - 11:09 AM, said:

I think limited quirks and unlocking Endo/Ferro, unlocking JJs, and unlocking DHS (at least DHS location) would go a long ways to balancing the underperforming clans.

Also fixing their terribad ballistics would help too.

I'm pretty opposed to a general unlock. One step at a time, IMO. Though I would actually like to see the first step in my lifetime. I also admit though, the thought of non jumping Executioners, Summoners and Mist Lynx makes my stomach turn.

[Kain Demos]

For the Nova if ES was unlocked and they allowed the in-multiples-of-your-tonnage only engine swaps I would upgrade to ES and a 300XL faster than the stock Prime overheats.

All we would need then is the 3077-era Nova-U head omnipod and all of your backs would belong to me.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 February 2015 - 11:11 AM, said:

I'm pretty opposed to a general unlock. One step at a time, IMO. Though I would actually like to see the first step in my lifetime. I also admit though, the thought of non jumping Executioners, Summoners and Mist Lynx makes my stomach turn.

To be fair, Griffins configurations that have no PPCs is blasphemy on par with non-jumping Executioners and Summoners yet the best Griffin configs run SRMs and MLs instead of PPCs.

I do agree unlocking should be taken one step at a time, because the god tier mechs could potentially use these unlocks (DHS movement for example) to become even godlier.

Edited by WM Quicksilver, 26 February 2015 - 11:23 AM.

[Kain Demos]

WM Quicksilver, on 26 February 2015 - 11:21 AM, said:

I do agree unlocking should be taken one step at a time, because the god tier mechs could potentially use these unlocks (DHS movement for example) to become even godlier.

Timberwolf has no locked DHS outside of the engine. Effect would be Zero.

Stormcrow has no locked DHS outside of the engine. Effect would be Zero.

If people still think of the Dire Wolf as "god tier" for whatever reason (even though it sees ZERO use in CW and now the IS has the King Crab) it has exactly 3 locked DHS outside of the engine you could possibly move around on a 'mech that already has 50+ tons of space and plenty of crit slots due to lack of ES or FF. Effect would be zero or minimal at best.

Edited by Kain Thul, 26 February 2015 - 11:32 AM.

[Andi Nagasia]

wonder what Mar3 Quirks will bring?
i dont think it will be enough for My Nova,
but ill hold off judgement till then,

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Kain Thul, on 26 February 2015 - 11:32 AM, said:

Timberwolf has no locked DHS outside of the engine. Effect would be Zero.

Stormcrow has no locked DHS outside of the engine. Effect would be Zero.

If people still think of the Dire Wolf as "god tier" for whatever reason (even though it sees ZERO use in CW and now the IS has the King Crab) it has exactly 3 locked DHS outside of the engine you could possibly move around on a 'mech that already has 50+ tons of space and plenty of crit slots due to lack of ES or FF. Effect would be zero or minimal at best.

My bad for some reason I thought they did, it was probably moving FF and ES that I was thinking of then.

Though the Arctic Cheetah could potentially benefit from this, having only 8 true-dubs.

[Kain Demos]

WM Quicksilver, on 26 February 2015 - 11:44 AM, said:

My bad for some reason I thought they did, it was probably moving FF and ES that I was thinking of then.

Though the Arctic Cheetah could potentially benefit from this, having only 8 true-dubs.

Arctic Cheetah will have 9 in the engine as true doubles and then 1 outside, which sucks. I hate how the first 10 MUST be in the engine to be real doubles. The Adder and Kit Fox get ****** over by this too. If it was 10 I bet I could run 6 x CSPL but I think wanting to run ECM I will have to change out some of those for CERSL to get some more DHS.

Edited by Kain Thul, 26 February 2015 - 11:54 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Kain Thul, on 26 February 2015 - 11:52 AM, said:

Arctic Cheetah will have 9 in the engine as true doubles and then 1 outside, which sucks. I hate how the first 10 MUST be in the engine to be real doubles. The Adder and Kit Fox get ****** over by this too. If it was 10 I bet I could run 6 x CSPL but I think wanting to run ECM I will have to change out some of those for CERSL to get some more DHS.

do agree, think the first 10 DHS should always count as TrewDubs. Would be almost as big a boost for mechs like the Mist Lynx as torso hardpoints.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 February 2015 - 12:13 PM, said:

do agree, think the first 10 DHS should always count as TrewDubs.

It would be better if regardless of the heat sink type, the first 10 counted as True Dubs. Singles would be more useful than they are now, especially for lights...

[ThrashInc]

I agree, this doesn't effect the Stormcrow, nor does it effect the Timberwolf or Dire Wolf (Which I believe aren't as BS as the SC) and would help make the other mechs more viable.

I'd rather see this implemented before they try to pigeonhole quirks to chassis and destroy builds.

[Bishop Steiner]

GundamStompyRobotChurchy, on 26 February 2015 - 02:11 PM, said:

I agree, this doesn't effect the Stormcrow, nor does it effect the Timberwolf or Dire Wolf (Which I believe aren't as BS as the SC) and would help make the other mechs more viable.

I'd rather see this implemented before they try to pigeonhole quirks to chassis and destroy builds.

Yup. I prefer the "ready, aim, fire" approach.... sadly, PGI prefers spray and pray, and to try to clean up the mess later. Lol. And this is coming from one of their supporters, mind you.